Dan Barker throws down.

In a debate with Kyle Butt, Dan Barker listens to Kyle say that Hitler was an atheistic communist calmly, and then destroys him.  The fun starts at about 1:30.

In Kyle’s defense, at 8:08 he has the integrity to admit he was wrong.  But then he goes on to assert essentially that Hitler was not a true Christian.  And then comes all the quote mining – the type that would make any experienced debater begin to drool in anticipation of their turn to rebut.

About JT Eberhard

When not defending the planet from inevitable apocalypse at the rotting hands of the undead, JT is a writer and public speaker about atheism, gay rights, and more. He spent two and a half years with the Secular Student Alliance as their first high school organizer. During that time he built the SSA’s high school program and oversaw the development of groups nationwide. JT is also the co-founder of the popular Skepticon conference and served as the events lead organizer during its first three years.

  • Jasper

    “In Kyle’s defense, at 8:08 he has the integrity to admit he was wrong. But then he goes on to assert essentially that Hitler was not a true Christian. And then comes all the quote mining – the type that would make any experienced debater begin to drool in anticipation of their turn to rebut.”

    That’s staggeringly moving the goalposts.

    If Hitler was a Muslim, he wouldn’t be a “true Christian”, but guess what? He wouldn’t be an atheist either.

    Atheist != Not exactly the exactingly exactly exact type of Christian that the Christian things is exactly correct.

    • http://gamesgirlsgods.blogspot.com/ Feminerd

      And then he goes on at the end to blather about abortion. I couldn’t figure out what that was about or how it connected to anything previous.

      • Jasper

        You have to give them some credit. It’s not easy to string together sequences of words into intelligible sentences. They’ll get around to coherent arguments… give it time.

        • Rob

          2000 years and counting! How long is it going to take?

          • EvolutionKills

            They just need to keep backpedaling until the Rapture takes them all away…

  • iknklast

    True Christian – defined – someone who believes the exact same thing I believe, and doesn’t do things I don’t like.

    Atheist – defined – someone who does things that are not good.

    I think what we need are new definitions, ones that have some basis in reality. And we need to clone Dan Barker. We definitely need more of him.


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