Fundamentalists have a good reason to fear and disregard science. Anything that negates their fantasises and gives a sounder explanation of the real world is going to piss them off. Apart from those that try to go out on the internet to evangelise, I get a strong feeling the rest are like puppies trying to chew their own leg off.

The internet allows them to seek answers that they privately harbour. There's really no excuse for wilful ignorance any more.

The issue is more one of those that approach science dogmatically much like those of a religious bent,they tend to make that point about atheists as well. Thus to a degree they have a point,insomuch as when dogma becomes...TRUTH, an open mind is closed. Granted most scientists and atheists are not dogmatic,but by and large neither are those of faith so the sword of truth they use cuts both ways,even if it's a small piece of truth they happen to be using.

"But yes, the argument there was that religion and science weren't compatible, because science wasn't objective. That scientists were biased towards evolution and against religion, so they bend the conclusion to fit their beliefs."

What is interesting to me is how religious people can be perfectly logical about what makes a satellite work, a GPS system work, a car work and how they manage a business to compete in the real world by use of accounting systems and marketing concepts. Yet, they suspend their use of logic and reason when talking about their god. It boogles my mind how otherwise intelligent people can suspend questioning attitudes regarding religion when so many of them are successful based on their use of logic and reason in their daily lives.

"And this blurry youtube video of a light in the distance proves those UFOs!!!! "

Such as this one, maybe ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBzEs9baq5M

I think that this quote is hilarious. Especially since most religions push the same paradigm - that the men are in charge and the women should shut up and just follow along with whatever they say. Being a woman is equated with being a victim, so just follow us and you'll be ... still a victim? I don't get it.

It's the queers! They're in it with the aliens, and they're building landing strips for gay martians. I swear to God.

I even saw this written in Heiroglyphics in the ancient pyramids!!! And this blurry youtube video of a light in the distance proves those UFOs!!!!

You know what, Stuart, I LIKE YOU. You're not like the other people, here, in the trailer park.

It's the queers! They're in it with the aliens, and they're building landing strips for gay martians. I swear to God.

It's because, in secret, the scientists want to cover up the existence of PYGMIES + DWARFS.

Wha..., me? Never!

Well, OK, maybe a little, but it was only philosophy ribbing!

LOL! 'Nope... are you making fun of me??? :P

"You can compare science to an abusive older male that feels the need to impose his wrong judgments on everyone. You can compare religion to the weaker and smaller female that has been abused for believing she's right. In the end, we all know who's in the wrong."

I teach at a community college in the South, and I run across that and similar attitudes almost daily. Many of my fundamentalist students fear and distrust science and scientists. They see scientists as at best reckless, at worst satanic and malevolent. Science, according to some of my students, simply is not a useful and reliable way of knowing things. These students believe that scientists just make stuff up.

Such thinking (?) is an inevitable result of young-Earth creationism and a generally magical view of reality. If the entire scientific enterprise is discredited, then the particularly unpleasant bits, such as evolution, are easily dismissed. If scientists are deluded or evil people, and probably dupes of Lucifier, then one does well to keep away from them and their wicked teachings. When one believes that prayer rather than medical science saved Grandma from cancer, then blind faith becomes all the more important.

It's a self-sustaining and almost coherent worldview.

Damn dirty Platonists!

(Takes ball and goes home...)

Ummm... what? What is this about BIAS? So, no, religious folk aren't BIASED? We science folk aren't SKEPTICAL??? What stupid-ass world are these folks living in?? Oh yeah, they're living in the realm of the IDEAL and NOT in the realm of the REAL.

Typical. (and irritating)

"You can compare science to an abusive older male that feels the need to impose his wrong judgments on everyone. You can compare religion to the weaker and smaller female that has been abused for believing she's right. In the end, we all know who's in the wrong."

This is an actual quote I saw from someone. Secretly, scientists are there to spread their lies and anti-religion agenda. I always knew they were up to something, being in those white lab coats and everything. hoho.

But yes, the argument there was that religion and science weren't compatible, because science wasn't objective. That scientists were biased towards evolution and against religion, so they bend the conclusion to fit their beliefs.

It was amusing to me.