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Slamming Glen Beck
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"Don't get on that ship, Mr. Beck!"
"To Serve Man! It's a cookbook!"
Posted 3 years ago # -
Daniel Florien
AdministratorIs Glenn Beck a communist paperweight?!? Has he ever denied it?
Posted 3 years ago # -
Travis
MemberHang on.
I found that if I rearrange the letters in Glen Becks's name, I get the message "kneel BCG"!
Everyone knows that BCG stands for Bacillus Calmette-Guérin which is a tuberculosis vaccine.
In its early testing BCG was administered to 240 infants and 72 of them died.
Glen Beck worships baby killers!
Posted 3 years ago # -
DDM
MemberWatching stuff like this always leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Yeah, it's so ridiculous he deserves to be lambasted for his dumbass comments, but on the other hand, I don't agree with people I watch(Olberman/Maddow) returning the same mudslinging that gets tossed on them. That's not news or commentary on news, it's commentary about news commentors. I'm glad I have my own heroes I can look up to(The person I live with exclusively watches Faux News for news and religiously buys every one of Beck's books), but when they use the same tactics to belittle the other side, I get annoyed.
Posted 3 years ago # -
puck
MemberI have neer seen Rachel Maddow fling mud at someone on the professional level. She reports the facts and when she says something to someone on a personal level she says it to their face. Olbermann and Beck can each go smoke an elephants toenail. All they do is take excrement from a skunks ass, eat and half digest it, puke it up than fling it at anyone who disagrees with them.
Posted 3 years ago # -
Out of sheer morbid curiosity, I picked up Beck's book and skimmed the first few pages of it. While he swings a good bit further to the right than I do, I have to admit a couple of things:
a) the man is not a bad writer. He has a reasonable command of wit, he uses sarcasm effectively, and he is actually funny. This leads me to believe that the over-the-top stuff he does on his show is part of his deliberate persona, which is... interesting I guess. Reminds me of Larry the Cable Guy in that way; successfully capitalizing on his willingness to tell people what they like in outrageous ways.
b) He does something very clever in the book, which is to reverse the typical direction of elitism. It reminded me of an Al Franken book, putting down opponents by asserting that they are idiots. Furthermore, he appeals to "fact" repeatedly, and although some of the facts are certainly spurious, it was interesting to see someone on the right look down on "leftists" for refusing to operate on an empirical level.
I don't particularly like Glenn Beck, but I think I'm beginning to think he's quite good at his job, and possibly not even an idiot(!). It's been a weird week...
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People would agree to write for someone without co-author credit, or any author credit at all? Why? I'm not saying I don't believe it's done, I just don't understand the motivation.
I don't think its beyond his capacity to write a book all on his own. You might, and fair enough I suppose, but I'm in favor of not underestimating people you don't agree with.
Posted 3 years ago # -
Elemenope
ModeratorPeople would agree to write for someone without co-author credit, or any author credit at all? Why? I'm not saying I don't believe it's done, I just don't understand the motivation.
Money (lots of it) and it is a fairly common practice. It is called ghost-writing.
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Well, it would have to be a lot of money. Beck has, what, two or three books on the best seller list *right now*? He's making millions of dollars. If I could write a book that would be that successful for somebody else and make a salary or a one-time bonus, or write the exact same book under my own name, I'd rather do it under my own name. More money. Like, a lot more money.
Posted 3 years ago # -
Ty
ModeratorOne of my good friends just recently turned down a ghost writing gig for a best selling author. He would have received one fairly large payment for the work, no royalties, and no credit of any kind. In fact, the contract specifically stated that he could be sued for the entire amount he'd been paid, plus additional "compensatory" damages if he ever tried to take credit.
This is very common, Jonjon. And DDM is right, at this point Stephen King could publish his grocery list and hit #1 on the best seller list. The name on the cover matters much much more than the content.
And as fast as this guy is cranking out books while also managing his media empire, I'm certain enough they are ghost written that I'd best a sizable sum on it.
Posted 3 years ago # -
DDM
MemberOr, Logan, you could just write a book normally. There's a quote that deals with this subject... It goes something like "Being famous for being an author is like being famous for being a movie actor: Both afford you a nice table and meal at a restaurant, but if you're an author, everyone leaves you to yourself." In other words, (since I know I horribly misquoted that) the moral is that, even though they might know your name, they don't know your face.
Worst comes to worse, you could use a pen name. Stephen King used the pen name Richard Bachman for a few books, and no one was the wiser for a good deal of time after that.
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DDM: It's well-nigh impossible for a new writer to be published in today's market. Chances are better with nonfiction, which I feel more comfortable writing anyway, but I may have to resort to self-publishing. I'll figure it out as I go along.
JonJon: I actually liked the last Dark Tower book, especially the ending. It's on par with 1984 for downer ending of the century. I didn't like the weird way in which King artificially squeezed his real self and experiences into the story, but that's a minor beef in what was largely an enjoyable read. Your mileage may vary, I guess.
Posted 3 years ago # -
DDM
MemberIt's well-nigh impossible for a new writer to be published in today's market.
On the contrary, new people are being published all the time. Despite how much editors hate going through slush piles, they do it for a reason, and that's to find new blood. You don't hear about new people getting published because...well, they're new. Not a lot of people are going to care.
Though certainly in this economy, it'll be harder for anyone to get published, but it still happens a lot more frequently than "nigh-never."
Posted 3 years ago # -
Ty
Moderator"It's well-nigh impossible for a new writer to be published in today's market."
This is not true.
"I may have to resort to self-publishing."
This would be a mistake. Keep writing until you are good enough to get an agent interested. It's a lot of work to do, but it's really the only way to actually succeed. There are no shortcuts.
Posted 3 years ago # -
Ty
ModeratorMy friend http://www.iantregillis.com/ just sold a three book series to Tor, and he did it by writing a truly spectacular pitch that attracted a top quality agent.
That's how you do it.
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I guess I had a mistaken view of the viability of new authors, but I'm having trouble shaking the mental image of a balding middle-aged man behind a desk, holding a copy of my manuscript and looking at me over the top of his glasses, asking "what have you published before?"
Anyway, the true appeal in self-publishing, to me, is that authors whose work is published by others receive a ridiculously small amount of the profits they generate. If I'm also the publisher, I have greater control over the business aspects of writing. I'm not talking about using a vanity press, either. I'd put just as much work into establishing a legitimate company and editing & marketing the material as I'd put into writing it.
Posted 3 years ago # -
Ty
ModeratorThis is not a job interview. If your book is good, they don't care how many you've written before.
The only resume you need is a spectacular book in your hands.
Oh, and if you think getting published is a tough business, try running a publishing company. Good luck with that. :)
Posted 3 years ago # -
I should point out that, since I intend to pursue graduate degrees in English, I'll be required to write publishable material in presumably large quantities, some of which WILL be published as a matter of academic precedent (master's thesis & doctoral dissertation). It's probable, even likely that I'll be the author, co-author, or co-editor of a few textbooks while making my primary living as a college professor.
Posted 3 years ago # -
DDM
MemberA good way to get published is who you know, as well. Though that's true of any job, it certainly doesn't hurt in the publishing business.
Another thing you'd do well to remember is that your manuscripts will get rejected. A LOT. I can't stress this enough. Even if the manuscript is a shining winner(But who could tell before it goes to market?), it'll get rejected way before it's accepted. I think Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone went through something like 13 publishers before being accepted? And that was only as an afterthought because the editor's kid daughter happened to look in the slush pile to see it? Something like that.
The mantra here is "Don't give up."
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