Um... better reading comprehension Kodie.
There is big difference in not answering loaded questions, ad homs, or herrings and actually engaging in discussion and debate based on questions that are NOT complex.
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Kodie
MemberThere is also a big difference in not being an asshole about questions being worded too particularly vs. being an asshole because questions weren't worded quite particularly enough. I think I'm not the first or last person to try to give you a clue how conversations work.
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Kodie
MemberI know what a loaded baked potato is. This is just a forum on the internet. Nobody's life is at stake. It would be a lot more pleasant for you and everyone to take what you get and address it, rather than send every question back for unloading before you can touch it. You are high-maintenance for this sort of interaction.
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elizabethdamaro
MemberKodie:
A loaded question is one where there is an assumption attached. If you say "have you stopped beating your wife" That is loaded. Any answer agrees to the assumption. That's why I don't answer them.
When you can understand that, you will understand why I didn't address some of the questions, and did address others.
Get it yet?
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elizabethdamaro
MemberSometimes it is important to be specific Kodie. Especially because this thread showed a lot of people making assumptions that had nothing at all to do with what I said. And they continue to.
Hell, it happened in another thread as well.
Clarity matters. That some folks don't want to drop their preconceived prejudices on issues, is no excuse to deny that fact.
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claidheamh mor
MemberTo the original questioner starting the topic asking "I would like some views on the subject"
I think one of two possibilities:
If you think a soul can live beyond the body, and it can have many lives, then it can be born in another body. I'd find this preferable to being born in a body with a birth defect because some idiot thinks (per the occasionally-quoted column) "Congratulations. You've just murdered Beethoven." So the answer to uncounted cluster-fundies asking me "What if *your* mother decided not to have *you*?" is -- "No problem."
If you don't believe in any soul or life beyond the physical, then you wouldn't be around to regret not being born. Then the answer is *really* "No problem!"Posted 3 years ago # -
Elemenope
ModeratorThe whole soul thing makes it very sticky. After all, if the soul enters at conception, then does that mean that monozygotic twins are stuck with fractional souls?
As you say, no soul, no problem. In any case, you can always take the dead Beethoven and raise them a dead Hitler.
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claidheamh mor
Member@Jonjon: "Those pro-life militants, while they may bristle strongly at being called misogynist, nevertheless tend to reduce the mother in these arguments to a passive incubator, and give little if any time, thought, or concern to the personhood of the mother in their arguments, and it shows"
That may be true, but a mother has at least some rights guaranteed by society, and a fetus has none.
That doesn't move me at all. In fact a prune moves me more than that.
Yes, this would restrict women's rights. That is not misogyny.
(One blanket opinion deserves another, heh.)
That is misogyny.Posted 3 years ago # -
claidheamh mor
MemberThe zygote dividing and then sharing a single soul is a fun thought experiment. Being a sci-fi fan, I love zooming off into abstruse concepts. And I run my life with concepts and, I hope, their details and applications. But I don't trouble myself with worries about a twin-split zygote for making ethical life decisions.
Apropos of the septuplets and octo-mom... boy, now *there's* a weensy shard of soul to share, huh? As I try to make humor while gagging at those breeders whose poor decisions disgust me.
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