{"id":19762,"date":"2012-10-24T10:45:10","date_gmt":"2012-10-24T09:45:10","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/?page_id=19762"},"modified":"2024-11-09T07:05:51","modified_gmt":"2024-11-09T07:05:51","slug":"rob-bell-love-wins-debate-about-hell","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/rob-bell-love-wins-debate-about-hell\/","title":{"rendered":"Debates and Theological Spectrums"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-43110\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/298\/2024\/10\/AdrianWarnockLandscape1200-scaled.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"768\" height=\"576\"><\/p>\n<p>During the early years of Christian blogging there was a lot of interaction between Christians of different backgrounds. We would discuss and sometimes find we had a lot more in common than our disagreements. But sometimes we also found we used words differently. Like the pastor who believed gifts of the Holy Spirit had stopped, and prophecy meant writing Scripture but was quite happy to talk about God giving impressions directly to him. \u00a0Or some Muslims who think that Christians worship the Mother of Jesus. \u00a0Over time Adrian developed a reputation for trying to bridge gaps of understanding. He created \u201cTheological Spectrum\u201d posts which outlined the broad range of views Christians have on some subjects and showed how they often overlapped. \u00a0And he engaged in head to head discussions and debates some of which were broadcast on Premier Christian Radio\u2019s Unbelievable? Show. \u00a0Here are some of the highlights of this effort over the years.\u00a0See also posts on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/category\/leadership\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Leadership<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/category\/church\/preaching\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Preaching<\/a>, and\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/category\/doctrine\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Doctrine.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<h2>The Cross of Jesus<\/h2>\n<p>In many ways it all began with this discussion. One direct result of all this focus on discussing the cross was Adrian realising there wasn\u2019t as much conversation about the resurrection. This lead to him publishing his first book <em>Raised With Christ, How the Resurrection Changes Everything<\/em><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<h3><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/category\/atonement\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">The Atonement or Penal Substitution Debate\u00a0<\/a><\/h3>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<h2>The Resurrection of Jesus<\/h2>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"WXlI3XJze2\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2010\/09\/debating-the-resurrection-with-a-liberal-pastor\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Debating the resurrection with a liberal pastor<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201cDebating the resurrection with a liberal pastor\u201d \u2014 Adrian Warnock\" src=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2010\/09\/debating-the-resurrection-with-a-liberal-pastor\/embed\/#?secret=4ADriSGriO#?secret=WXlI3XJze2\" data-secret=\"WXlI3XJze2\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"7ExThAtOTH\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/resurrection\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Did Jesus rise from the dead?<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201cDid Jesus rise from the dead?\u201d \u2014 Adrian Warnock\" src=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/resurrection\/embed\/#?secret=FqSCJsneXx#?secret=7ExThAtOTH\" data-secret=\"7ExThAtOTH\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<h3><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/category\/doctrine\/resurrection\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">More on The Resurrection<\/a><\/h3>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<h2>Muslim and Christian views of Jesus Christ<\/h2>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"UixXzBeoLf\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2012\/05\/11-things-muslims-agree-with-christians-about-concerning-jesus\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Eleven Things Muslims agree with Christians about concerning Jesus<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201cEleven Things Muslims agree with Christians about concerning Jesus\u201d \u2014 Adrian Warnock\" src=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2012\/05\/11-things-muslims-agree-with-christians-about-concerning-jesus\/embed\/#?secret=wBNQFi2nnw#?secret=UixXzBeoLf\" data-secret=\"UixXzBeoLf\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"KoCizIZVxW\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2012\/05\/things-christians-and-muslims-disagree-about-over-jesus\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Six Things Christians and Muslims disagree about over Jesus<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201cSix Things Christians and Muslims disagree about over Jesus\u201d \u2014 Adrian Warnock\" src=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2012\/05\/things-christians-and-muslims-disagree-about-over-jesus\/embed\/#?secret=A8RJFhMBhP#?secret=KoCizIZVxW\" data-secret=\"KoCizIZVxW\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<h2>Discussion with Doug Wilson on Prophecy and other Gifts of the Holy Spirit<\/h2>\n<p>In this so-called debate at one point we both conceded defeat over a difference over definitions!<br>\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/anchor.fm\/adrian-warnock\/embed\/episodes\/Unbelievable-Doug-Wilson-and-Adrian-debate-Cessationism-and-Strange-Fire-e85d5h\" width=\"400px\" height=\"102px\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<h3><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/category\/series\/charismatic-spectrum\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">The Charismatic Spectrum<\/a><\/h3>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<h3><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2014\/08\/live-tv-debate-does-modern-day-prophecy-automatically-weaken-sola-scriptura\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Sola Scruptura and Prophecy<\/a><\/h3>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<h3><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/category\/strange-fire\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Strange Fire<\/a><\/h3>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2><\/h2>\n<h2>Heaven and Hell vs Rob Bell<\/h2>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"x92Shwpnes\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/rob-bell-love-wins-debate-about-hell\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Debates and Theological Spectrums<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201cDebates and Theological Spectrums\u201d \u2014 Adrian Warnock\" src=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/rob-bell-love-wins-debate-about-hell\/embed\/#?secret=KIn1qPrfzb#?secret=x92Shwpnes\" data-secret=\"x92Shwpnes\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"fhX9SpEUlK\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2011\/04\/a-spectrum-of-belief-on-hell-and-salvation\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">A spectrum of belief on hell and salvation \u2013 Is Rob Bell a Universalist?<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201cA spectrum of belief on hell and salvation \u2013 Is Rob Bell a Universalist?\u201d \u2014 Adrian Warnock\" src=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2011\/04\/a-spectrum-of-belief-on-hell-and-salvation\/embed\/#?secret=n7HQSMJLkS#?secret=fhX9SpEUlK\" data-secret=\"fhX9SpEUlK\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<h2>Gender roles discussion<\/h2>\n<p>http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2012\/10\/my-debate-with-rachel-held-evans-and-owen-strachan-on-premier-christian-radios-unbelievable<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"pZhGZGX967\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2019\/05\/rachel-held-evans-is-with-jesus\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Rachel Held Evans is with Jesus<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201cRachel Held Evans is with Jesus\u201d \u2014 Adrian Warnock\" src=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2019\/05\/rachel-held-evans-is-with-jesus\/embed\/#?secret=jrQVy5Bv0P#?secret=pZhGZGX967\" data-secret=\"pZhGZGX967\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<h3><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/category\/relationships\/sexuality\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Sexuality<\/a><\/h3>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<h3><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/category\/series\/complementarian-egalitarian-spectrum\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Complementarian \u2013 Egalitarian Spectrum<\/a><\/h3>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h1>Divorce and Remarriage<\/h1>\n<p>In a series of posts summarised below Adrian shared on the spectrum \u00a0of views held by Christians and urged us to reduce the stigma felt by Christians whose marriages fail:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"X0UGEysBrW\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2024\/04\/christian-views-on-divorce-and-remarriage-a-spectrum\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Christian views on Divorce and Remarriage: A Spectrum<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201cChristian views on Divorce and Remarriage: A Spectrum\u201d \u2014 Adrian Warnock\" src=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2024\/04\/christian-views-on-divorce-and-remarriage-a-spectrum\/embed\/#?secret=V06aqOztHq#?secret=X0UGEysBrW\" data-secret=\"X0UGEysBrW\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"pxj57wkc8L\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2024\/04\/how-to-reduce-divorce-stigma-in-church\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">How to Reduce Divorce Stigma in Church<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201cHow to Reduce Divorce Stigma in Church\u201d \u2014 Adrian Warnock\" src=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2024\/04\/how-to-reduce-divorce-stigma-in-church\/embed\/#?secret=3rbp0jWCpv#?secret=pxj57wkc8L\" data-secret=\"pxj57wkc8L\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<h1>Arminocalvinist Spectrum \u2013 why it is not as simple as Arminians vs Calvinists<\/h1>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"HdtrvLlwVX\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2010\/12\/an-arminocalvinist-spectrum-or-why-its-not-so-simple-as-arminians-vs-calvinists\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Arminians vs Calvinists a spectrum<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201cArminians vs Calvinists a spectrum\u201d \u2014 Adrian Warnock\" src=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2010\/12\/an-arminocalvinist-spectrum-or-why-its-not-so-simple-as-arminians-vs-calvinists\/embed\/#?secret=CyMUEQ10io#?secret=HdtrvLlwVX\" data-secret=\"HdtrvLlwVX\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<h2>Evolution vs Creation<\/h2>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"W8pLLsVwK9\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2009\/12\/evolutionary-spectrum\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Evolutionary Spectrum<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201cEvolutionary Spectrum\u201d \u2014 Adrian Warnock\" src=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2009\/12\/evolutionary-spectrum\/embed\/#?secret=sGCLB9J4s8#?secret=W8pLLsVwK9\" data-secret=\"W8pLLsVwK9\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>During the early years of Christian blogging there was a lot of interaction between Christians of different backgrounds. 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