{"id":11036,"date":"2011-02-16T18:45:11","date_gmt":"2011-02-16T18:45:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/adrianwarnock.com\/?p=11036"},"modified":"2025-10-14T15:53:42","modified_gmt":"2025-10-14T14:53:42","slug":"baptism-is-not-optional-if-you-want-to-take-the-bible-seriously-terry-virgo","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2011\/02\/baptism-is-not-optional-if-you-want-to-take-the-bible-seriously-terry-virgo\/","title":{"rendered":"&quot;Baptism is not optional if you want to take the Bible seriously&quot; Terry Virgo"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>So far in this series of videos we have seen Terry speak about three values that have shaped his ministry:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/adrianwarnock.com\/2010\/10\/what-makes-terry-virgo-tick-relational-evangelistically-relevant-churches\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Building churches that are loving, righteous, caught up in world mission, and evangelistic<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/adrianwarnock.com\/2010\/10\/terry-virgo-on-the-authority-of-scripture-and-the-vital-place-of-preaching\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">The primary place of preaching and the authority of the Bible.<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/adrianwarnock.com\/2010\/12\/valuinggrace\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">The full benefits of grace<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>We move today to the fourth of his 17 values (this series is going to take a while yet!). It is expressed once again in terms of the kind of church he aims to plant:<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u2018A church whose people are baptized in water and in the Holy Spirit, and brought into a genuine life in the Spirit.\u2019<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>In today\u2019s video, Terry nails his believers-only baptism credentials firmly to the mast:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cIt seems quite plain in the New Testament that when people came to put their trust in Christ they were told to repent, be baptized, that they might then receive the Holy Spirit. Baptism means to plunge under. . .<\/p>\n<p>It is an outward response to what has happened in the heart, it is also associated with being buried with Christ. It\u2019s a kind of demonstration my old life is over, it\u2019s as though it was buried, it\u2019s now raised up into newness of life. Baptism is always associated with conversion in the New Testament. We find some people who were filled with the Holy Spirit first, without being baptized, are immediately commanded to be baptized to as it were catch up and complete the picture.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>He was then asked if he felt baptism was optional: \u201cWell it\u2019s optional if you don\u2019t take the Bible seriously, but we want to take the Bible seriously. And so, for us, no it\u2019s a clear Bible instruction. I don\u2019t think I have permission to change what the Bible says. We are just trying to obey what the Scripture says. . . \u201d<\/p>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/vimeo.com\/18989271\">https:\/\/vimeo.com\/18989271<\/a><\/blockquote>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>So far in this series of videos we have seen Terry speak about three values that have shaped his ministry: Building churches that are loving, righteous, caught up in world mission, and evangelistic. The primary place of preaching and the authority of the Bible. The full benefits of grace We move today to the fourth [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1268,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[160,187],"tags":[537,475,598],"class_list":["post-11036","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-terry-virgo","category-water-baptism","tag-baptism","tag-church-2","tag-terry-virgo"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>&quot;Baptism is not optional if you want to take the Bible seriously&quot; Terry Virgo<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"So far in this series of videos we have seen Terry speak about three values that have shaped his ministry: Building churches that are loving, righteous,\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2011\/02\/baptism-is-not-optional-if-you-want-to-take-the-bible-seriously-terry-virgo\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"&quot;Baptism is not optional if you want to take the Bible seriously&quot; 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