{"id":14218,"date":"2011-04-28T18:44:35","date_gmt":"2011-04-28T17:44:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/adrianwarnock.com\/?p=14218"},"modified":"2011-04-28T18:44:35","modified_gmt":"2011-04-28T17:44:35","slug":"heaven-hell-and-rob-bell-how-dare-you-question-god","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2011\/04\/heaven-hell-and-rob-bell-how-dare-you-question-god\/","title":{"rendered":"Heaven, Hell, and Rob Bell &#8211; How DARE you question God?"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>Bell asks, is it unjust for God to not save everyone?  I reply: how dare you question God?  Rob thinks he is God, that he can somehow help the whole of humanity.  He makes an interesting admission in the following quote from <em>Love Wins<\/em>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cMany have heard the gospel framed in terms of rescue. God has to punish sinners, because God is holy, but Jesus has paid the price for our sin, and so we can have eternal life. However true or untrue that is technically or theologically, what it can do is subtly teach people that Jesus rescues us from God. Let\u2019s be very clear, then: we do not need to be rescued from God. God is the one who rescues us from death, sin, and destruction. God is the rescuer. This is crucial for our peace, because <strong>we shape our God, and then our God shapes us.<\/strong>\u201c<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I am sorry Rob, <strong>God either exists or he doesn\u2019t.  We cannot shape him<\/strong>.  He is God!  He is what he is.  We cannot mold him in our own image but must find him in the Bible and worship him.<\/p>\n<p>Speaking of sending people to an eternal hell Rob says  \u201c<strong>Can God do this, or even allow this, and still claim to be a loving God?<\/strong>\u201d<\/p>\n<p>This sounds very similar to Atheist Bertrand Russell who wrote, \u201cThere is one very serious defect to my mind in Christ\u2019s moral character, and that is that He believed in Hell. <strong>I do not myself feel that any person who is really profoundly humane can believe in everlasting punishment<\/strong>.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>I completely disagree at this point as would most Bible believing Evangelicals who fear God and honor the Scriptures<\/p>\n<p>The assumption behind such arguments seems to be that at heart people are basically good and deserve to be saved. If God doesn\u2019t save them he is unjust. The Bible turns that on its head and says <strong>people are basically evil and deserve God\u2019s wrath<\/strong>.  The fact that he saves anyone at all is incredible!<\/p>\n<p>As Piper recently tweeted, \u00a0<strong>\u201cThere is only one person God has treated worse than he deserved!\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>We cannot dare to judge God and speak back to him and tell him what he should be like!<\/p>\n<p>Martyn Lloyd-Jones used to say that the definition of a Christian is someone who\u2019s mouth has been shut.<\/p>\n<p>God will be God!<\/p>\n<p>\u201cHe doesnt need a publicist but a preacher\u201d (Kevin De Young at Gospel Coalition).<\/p>\n<p>The following quotes from Bell\u2019s book are in my view verging on blasphemy:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cMillions have been taught that if they don\u2019t believe, if they don\u2019t accept in the right way, that is, the way the person telling them the gospel does, and they were hit by a car and died later that same day, God would have no choice but to punish them forever in conscious torment in hell. God would, in essence, become a fundamentally different being to them in that moment of death, a different being to them forever. A loving heavenly father who will go to extraordinary lengths to have a relationship with them would, in the blink of an eye, become a cruel, mean, vicious tormenter who would ensure that they had no escape from an endless future of agony. If there was an earthly father who was like that, we would call the authorities. If there was an actual human dad who was that volatile, we would contact child protection services immediately. If God can switch gears like that, switch entire modes of being that quickly, that raises a thousand  questions about whether a being like this could ever be trusted, let alone be good. Loving one moment, vicious the next. Kind and compassionate, only to become cruel and relentless in the blink of an eye. Does God become somebody totally different the moment you die? That kind of God is simply devastating. Psychologically crushing. We can\u2019t bear it. No one can.<\/p>\n<p>And that is the secret deep in the heart of many people, especially Christians: they don\u2019t love God. They can\u2019t, because the God they\u2019ve been presented with and taught about can\u2019t be loved. That God is terrifying and traumatizing and unbearable.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cBecause if something is wrong with your God, if your God is loving one second and cruel the next, if your God will punish people for all of eternity for sins committed in a few short years, no amount of clever marketing or compelling language or good music or great coffee will be able to disguise that one, true, glaring, untenable, unacceptable, awful reality.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cthey sense that the God lurking behind Jesus isn\u2019t safe, loving, or good. It doesn\u2019t make sense, it can\u2019t be reconciled, and so they say no. They don\u2019t want anything to do with Jesus, because they don\u2019t want anything to do with that God.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Bell asks, is it unjust for God to not save everyone? I reply: how dare you question God? Rob thinks he is God, that he can somehow help the whole of humanity. He makes an interesting admission in the following quote from Love Wins: \u201cMany have heard the gospel framed in terms of rescue. 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