{"id":14391,"date":"2011-04-27T15:35:17","date_gmt":"2011-04-27T14:35:17","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/adrianwarnock.com\/?p=14391"},"modified":"2018-01-28T17:48:28","modified_gmt":"2018-01-28T17:48:28","slug":"video-nailing-rob-bell-about-his-disbelief-in-eternal-conscious-punishment-in-hell","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2011\/04\/video-nailing-rob-bell-about-his-disbelief-in-eternal-conscious-punishment-in-hell\/","title":{"rendered":"VIDEO &#8211; Nailing Rob Bell down to express clearly his disbelief in eternal conscious punishment in hell"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Rob Bell defends his view of Hell in &quot;Love Wins&quot; debate\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/agRu8SZRMME?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/p><p>In this video clip <strong>Rob Bell asked me one too many questions<\/strong>. If you see a builder point at your foundation and say \u201cIs that really strong enough? <strong>Is it possible that your house may fall down if I build it here?<\/strong> Isn\u2019t it more likely that the cement that was used is too sandy? Are you sure it will last for ever? <strong>Is your foundation-layer really like that?\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>It is <strong>IMPOSSIBLE<\/strong> to conclude anything other than that the questioner does not believe in the sureness of your foundation! The very act of questioning undermines the confidence and certainty that one needs in a sure foundation! Unfortunately Bell with all his questions does the same thing with absolutely <strong>FUNDAMENTAL<\/strong> aspects of our faith.<\/p>\n<p>So,<strong> finally pushed over the edge by Bell\u2019s repeated questions<\/strong>, I turned one back on him, asking him essentially if he believed that God was the kind of God who would punish people for ever in hell, <strong>he gave a simple, one word answer \u201cNo!\u201d<\/strong> In a sense that made the whole hour worthwhile. <strong>Finally, a clear confession from Rob Bell, that yes, he does not believe in hell <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2012\/10\/what-is-an-evangelical\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">as traditional evangelicals<\/a> understand it.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>As I begin to say at the end of this clip, you can call such a view part of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2012\/10\/what-is-a-christian\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">a broad \u201cChristian\u201d spectrum of thought<\/a> that includes some liberals, catholics, orthodox, and essentially anyone that claims to be a follower of Christ, but you cannot call it evangelical. Since my personal definition of a Christian is <strong>\u201cSomeone who believes in the physical resurrection of Christ and lives their life in light of the implications of that event<\/strong>\u201d (taken from <a href=\"http:\/\/raisedwithchrist.net\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Raised With Christ<\/a>) I am happy to recognize that Bell is almost certainly a Christian. But <strong>he is no Evangelical and this debate taken as a whole should put an end to any nonsense that he is.<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In this video clip Rob Bell asked me one too many questions. If you see a builder point at your foundation and say \u201cIs that really strong enough? Is it possible that your house may fall down if I build it here? Isn\u2019t it more likely that the cement that was used is too sandy? 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