{"id":1754,"date":"2005-11-17T22:57:00","date_gmt":"2005-11-17T22:57:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/adrianwarnock.com\/2005\/11\/do-cessationists-have-a-real-relationship-with-god\/"},"modified":"2013-12-17T15:40:20","modified_gmt":"2013-12-17T15:40:20","slug":"do-cessationists-have-a-real-relationship-with-god","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2005\/11\/do-cessationists-have-a-real-relationship-with-god\/","title":{"rendered":"Do cessationists have a real relationship with God?"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><a href=\"http:\/\/21stcenturyreformation.blogspot.com\/2005\/11\/charismata-impressions-and-prophecy.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">21st Century Reformation<\/a> quotes a paragraph from one of my previous posts:<\/p>\n<p><em>\u201cThe cessationist who concerns me is the one who does not believe that there is any sense in which we have a relational experience of God today.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p>and responded as follows before producing some quotes to support his position:<\/p>\n<p><em>Oh for a thousand tongues to sing my great redeemers praise. Such affection only comes from what Adrian here calls ?a relationship experience of God<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Here is the Major issue. This passion to share with all people the peace and power of a conscious relational experience with our great God is I think the height of Gospel preaching. This gift of the Holy Spirit to enable us to have a relational EXPERIENCE of God directly is life itself. It is this experience that empowers me to face the lions of everyday life. Not only that we believe God is with us because the scripture says so, but an assurance we possess because we are all wet with the experience of His love. This does not for a second mean that we do not stand on scripture or that we rely on experience alone, but that the filling of the Holy Spirit does lead us to a higher level of experience which strengthens our boldness and our assurance. This position was Lloyd-Jones  conclusion and the conclusion of John Piper, Jonathan Edwards and a whole host of Reformed believers through the centuries.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>21st Century Reformation quotes a paragraph from one of my previous posts: \u201cThe cessationist who concerns me is the one who does not believe that there is any sense in which we have a relational experience of God today.\u201d and responded as follows before producing some quotes to support his position: Oh for a thousand [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1268,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[262,355],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1754","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-gifts-of-holy-spirit","category-gifts-of-the-holy-spirit-2006"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - 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