{"id":21989,"date":"2013-07-04T17:30:01","date_gmt":"2013-07-04T16:30:01","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/?p=21989"},"modified":"2025-11-19T19:48:40","modified_gmt":"2025-11-19T19:48:40","slug":"john-macarthur-and-john-piper-on-their-very-different-experiences-of-depression","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2013\/07\/john-macarthur-and-john-piper-on-their-very-different-experiences-of-depression\/","title":{"rendered":"John MacArthur and John Piper on experiencing depression"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>In the video below there is a very helpful segment beginning at 39:45 (<a href=\"http:\/\/youtu.be\/Sr9mcn-9hr0?t=39m45s\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">click here<\/a> to start it playing at that point, or use the slider below). The segment begins with MacArthur explaining that he has never really been depressed. Some Christians are a bit like MacArthur. To be honest, that can make it hard for them to empathize with the Piper\u2019s of this world who goes on to describe how he had a period of his life where he was significantly depressed that lasted several years. \u00a0MacAthur\u2019s incredulous \u201c<em><strong>Years?!<\/strong><\/em>\u201d demonstrates how very differently they are wired.<\/p>\n<p>If you are like a MacArthur give thanks that your brain chemistry saves you from the anguish many others feel. \u00a0IF you are like a Piper give thanks firstly that even if it takes years your low mood will pass (and for many <a title=\"Can a Christian get depressed?\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2013\/04\/can-a-christian-get-depressed\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">medication may speed that up<\/a>). But also, as we said yesterday, give thanks that <a title=\"A surprising answer to the \u201cWhy Me?\u201d question\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2013\/07\/a-surprising-answer-to-the-why-me-question\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">God wants to comfort you in the middle of your suffering so you can comfort others<\/a>.<\/p>\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"John Piper and John MacArthur: A Conversation\" width=\"500\" height=\"375\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/Sr9mcn-9hr0?start=2385&feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<div style=\"border: 2px solid #4a6d8c; border-radius: 12px; padding: 24px; margin: 40px 0; background-color: #f8fbff; text-align: center; font-size: 1.05em; line-height: 1.7; box-shadow: 0 4px 12px rgba(0,0,0,0.05);\">\n<p style=\"margin: 0 0 14px; font-weight: bold; font-size: 1.35em; color: #2c3e50;\">Help When Life Hurts<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0 0 18px; color: #34495e;\">This article is part of a growing collection, drawing from Adrian Warnock\u2019s medical and psychological expertise, lived experience, and Christian faith.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0 0 18px; color: #34495e; font-weight: 600;\">Click the type of pain you or a loved one are experiencing right now<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 14px 0; font-size: 1.05em;\"><a style=\"color: #4a6d8c;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2025\/11\/help-when-life-hurts\/#general-suffering\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">General suffering &amp; disappointment<\/a><br>\n<a style=\"color: #4a6d8c;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2025\/11\/help-when-life-hurts\/#financial-ruin\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Financial difficulties<\/a><br>\n<a style=\"color: #4a6d8c;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2025\/11\/help-when-life-hurts\/#feeling-disqualified\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Feeling disqualified<\/a><br>\n<a style=\"color: #4a6d8c;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2025\/11\/help-when-life-hurts\/#chronic-illness\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Chronic illness &amp; disability<\/a><br>\n<a style=\"color: #4a6d8c;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2025\/11\/help-when-life-hurts\/#divorce\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Divorce &amp; family pain<\/a><br>\n<a style=\"color: #4a6d8c;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2025\/11\/help-when-life-hurts\/#mental-health\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Depression &amp; mental health<\/a><br>\n<a style=\"color: #4a6d8c;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2025\/11\/help-when-life-hurts\/#bereavement\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Bereavement &amp; end-of-life<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 24px 0 0;\"><a style=\"background: #4a6d8c; color: white; padding: 12px 28px; border-radius: 8px; text-decoration: none; font-weight: bold; font-size: 1.15em; display: inline-block;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2025\/11\/help-when-life-hurts\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"> See the full list of over 40 articles<br>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In the video below there is a very helpful segment beginning at 39:45 (click here to start it playing at that point, or use the slider below). 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