{"id":22844,"date":"2013-11-27T07:30:28","date_gmt":"2013-11-27T07:30:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/?p=22844"},"modified":"2018-01-28T16:36:42","modified_gmt":"2018-01-28T16:36:42","slug":"the-charismatic-gifts-debate-verses-from-the-gospels","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2013\/11\/the-charismatic-gifts-debate-verses-from-the-gospels\/","title":{"rendered":"The Charismatic gifts debate: verses from the Gospels"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>In the last post I shared <a title=\"Why I am a charismatic: The OT Bible verses\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2013\/11\/why-i-am-a-charismatic-the-ot-bible-verses\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">some OT verses which speak to the charismatic debate<\/a>. Today, I continue with some passages from the Gospels. Read these, and try to allow the Bible to shape your viewpoint, not your traditions, whichever side of the fence you have come down on so far. <strong>Please also share any key verses I may have missed in the comment section.<\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cAre you the one who is to come, or shall we look for another?\u201d And Jesus answered them, \u201cGo and tell John what you hear and see: the blind receive their sight and the lame walk, lepers are cleansed and the deaf hear, and the dead are raised up, and the poor have good news preached to them. (Matthew 11:3-5)<\/p>\n<p>He said to them, \u201cBecause of your little faith. For truly, I say to you, if you have faith like a grain of mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, \u2018Move from here to there,\u2019 and it will move, and nothing will be impossible for you.\u201d (Matthew 17:20, ESV)<\/p>\n<p>24 He put another parable before them, saying, w\u201cThe kingdom of heaven may be compared to a man who sowed good seed in his field, 25 but while his men were sleeping, his enemy came and sowed weeds3 among the wheat and went away. 26 So when the plants came up and bore grain, then the weeds appeared also. 27 And the servants4 of the master of the house came and said to him, \u2018Master, did you not sow good seed in your field? How then does it have weeds?\u2019 28 He said to them, \u2018An enemy has done this.\u2019 So the servants said to him, \u2018Then do you want us to go and gather them?\u2019 29 But he said, x\u2018No, lest in gathering the weeds you root up the wheat along with them. Matthew 13:24\u201329<\/p>\n<p>\u201cBeware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep\u2019s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. 16 You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 So, every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit. 18 A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a diseased tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus you will recognize them by their fruits.<br>\n\u201cNot everyone who says to me, \u2018Lord, Lord,\u2019 will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, \u2018Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?\u2019 23 And then will I declare to them, \u2018I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.\u2019<br>\nMatthew 7:15-23<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAsk, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives, and the one who seeks finds, and to the one who knocks it will be opened. Or which one of you, if his son asks him for bread, will give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a serpent? If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask him! (Matthew 7:7-11, ESV)<\/p>\n<p>Knowing their thoughts, he said to them, \u201cEvery kingdom divided against itself is laid waste, and no city or house divided against itself will stand. And if Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then will his kingdom stand? And if I cast out demons by Beelzebul, by whom do your sons cast them out? Therefore they will be your judges. But if it is by the Spirit of God that I cast out demons, then the kingdom of God has come upon you. Or how can someone enter a strong man\u2019s house and plunder his goods, unless he first binds the strong man? Then indeed he may plunder his house. Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters. Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven people, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come. (Matthew 12:25-32)<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhen the unclean spirit has gone out of a person, it passes through waterless places seeking rest, but finds none. 44 Then it says, \u2018I will return to my house from which I came.\u2019 And when it comes, it finds the house empty, swept, and put in order. 45 Then it goes and brings with it seven other spirits more evil than itself, and they enter and dwell there, and the last state of that person is worse than the first. So also will it be with this evil generation.\u201d (Matthew 12:43-45)<\/p>\n<p>And many false prophets will arise and lead many astray. And because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold. (Matthew 24:11-12)<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI am with you always, to the end of the age\u201d (Matthew 28:20)<\/p>\n<p>Mark 16:17<br>\nAnd these signs will accompany those who believe: in my name they will cast out demons; they will speak in new tongues; (NB: most scholars believe this verse was not in the original)<\/p>\n<p>John 4:24 \u201cGod is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it goes. So it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit.\u201d (John 3:8)<\/p>\n<p>23 But the hour is coming, and is now here, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father is seeking such people to worship him. (John 4:23)<\/p>\n<p>All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out. (John 6:37)<\/p>\n<p>My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. (John 10:27)<\/p>\n<p>But one of them, Caiaphas, who was high priest that year, said to them, \u201cYou know nothing at all. Nor do you understand that it is better for you that one man should die for the people, not that the whole nation should perish.\u201d He did not say this of his own accord, but being high priest that year he prophesied that Jesus would die for the nation (John 11:49-51)<\/p>\n<p>even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you.<\/p>\n<p>\u201c\u2026even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you. I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you. \u2026 If anyone loves me, he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him\u201d (John 14:17-18, 23).<\/p>\n<p>\u201cBut when the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, he will bear witness about me. (John 15:26)<\/p>\n<p>Nevertheless, I tell you the truth: it is to your advantage that I go away, for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you. But if I go, I will send him to you. (John 16:17)<\/p>\n<p>And this is eternal life, that they know you the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent.(John 17:3)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<h2><strong>Over to you: Which verses relevant to this subject from the gospels did I miss?<\/strong><\/h2>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In the last post I shared some OT verses which speak to the charismatic debate. 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