{"id":2441,"date":"2006-10-30T01:30:00","date_gmt":"2006-10-30T01:30:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/adrianwarnock.com\/2006\/10\/blogdom-today-car-jacking-missional-swim-trunks-and-the-holy-spirit\/"},"modified":"2018-07-29T10:51:03","modified_gmt":"2018-07-29T09:51:03","slug":"blogdom-today-car-jacking-missional-swim-trunks-and-the-holy-spirit","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2006\/10\/blogdom-today-car-jacking-missional-swim-trunks-and-the-holy-spirit\/","title":{"rendered":"BLOGDOM TODAY &#8211; Car-jacking, Missional Swim Trunks, and the Holy Spirit"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\"><span style=\"color:#009900\"><strong>This is a round-up of some of the posts that caught my eye from the last week or so:<\/strong><\/span> <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\">First up, on items of clothing. It seems <\/span><a title=\"Martyn Lloyd-Jones may win a most peculiar contest\" href=\"http:\/\/teampyro.blogspot.com\/2006\/10\/t-shirt-contest-ends-tuesday.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\">Martyn Lloyd-Jones may win a most peculiar contest<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\"> over at Pyromaniacs \u2013 the things that lot get up to when I am not looking! <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\">Talking of which, <\/span><a title=\"the pyro's also talked up a storm about Mark Driscoll\" href=\"http:\/\/teampyro.blogspot.com\/2006\/10\/fed-up.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\">the Pyros also talked up a storm about Mark Driscoll<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\">. I have to wonder just how unlucky Phil was \u2013 is that the first Driscoll sermon he has listened to, or has he been listening for a while looking for something to jump on? In all the aggro that seems to gather around Driscoll, I have yet to see a single referenced example of him actually cussing in the pulpit. I have heard quite a few Driscoll talks and never heard any swearing or anything for that matter that would be significantly offensive to most, as far as I can tell. Not yet having listened to the talk that Johnson cites, I will not comment on his specific problems with it. To be fair, I have wondered a bit about the number of Driscoll\u2019s comments about sex \u2013 but I suspect he would justify this by the need of his particular congregation to hear <strong><em>\u201cDon\u2019t do it!\u201d<\/em><\/strong> almost weekly! Anyway, <\/span><a title=\"Phil did post a great follow up post\" href=\"http:\/\/teampyro.blogspot.com\/2006\/10\/words.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\">Phil did post a great follow-up post<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\"> about the need for ALL of us to be more careful about what we say and how to say it. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"meta\"><a href=\"http:\/\/teampyro.blogspot.com\/2006\/10\/busted.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\">\u201cPeople get shot in that neighborhood and cars get car-jacked all the time,\u201d he said.<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\"> Phil is starting his second childhood early \u2013 that\u2019s what comes of having a cop for a son! <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"meta\"><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"meta\"><a href=\"http:\/\/teampyro.blogspot.com\/2006\/10\/no-bible-verses-were-harmed-or-even.html?\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\">No Bible verses were harmed (or even touched!) in the writing of this sermon<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\">. Dan has a great post on the vital place of the Word of God in our preaching. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/theresurgence.com\/md_blog_2006-10-25_dear_abby?\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\">Dear Abby: Can I wear my swim trunks to church?<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\"> If you want to understand what this missional thing is really all about, this is the post for you! <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"meta\"><a href=\"http:\/\/purechurch.blogspot.com\/2006\/10\/how-to-prevent-church-split-part-1.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\">How to Prevent a Church Split<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\">. Pure church has begun a new series on this vital subject. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"meta\"><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/ifollowjesus.blogspot.com\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\">\u201cI follow Jesus!\u201d<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\"> So says my friend Jason who has become a Christian in the last six months and was baptized last Sunday at my church. Pray for him, and go read his blog \u2013 his posts about baptism are great! Like my other friends, his headlines will appear in the gray box at the bottom of this page. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\">\u201c<\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/loveintruth.com\/interpret\/1a-whystudy?\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\">In the New Testament, the Spirit works in three kinds of ways. He is called \u201cthe Spirit of Love.\u201d [Rom 15:13, 5:5; Gal 5:22-23] He is called \u201cthe Spirit of Truth.\u201d [John 14:17, 15:26, 16:12-14; 1 John 4:6, 5:6] He is called \u201cthe Spirit of Power.\u201d [Zech 4:6; Luke 4:14; Acts 10:38; Rom 1:4, 15:19; 1Cor 2:4-5] We find all three together in 2 Tim 1:7: [For God has not given us a Spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind.]\u201d<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\"> Andrew Fountain on the work of the Holy Spirit. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"meta\"><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"meta\"><a href=\"http:\/\/chri.st\/reviews\/all\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\">Andrew Fountain Reviews <em>newfrontiers<\/em> Material (including Terry Virgo\u2019s teaching)<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\">. Andrew is planting a <em>newfrontiers<\/em> church in Toronto, and shares his view of this year\u2019s <em>newfrontiers<\/em> conference and some other material. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"meta\"><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"meta\"><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\">Dan Phillips hasn\u2019t managed to find the time yet to answer my latest post in <\/span><a title=\"our long running charismatic debate\" href=\"http:\/\/adrianwarnock.com\/2006\/09\/charismatic-debate-finishing-off-dan.htm\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\">our long running charismatic debate<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\">, but he does post a <\/span><a title=\"review a cessationist book\" href=\"http:\/\/teampyro.blogspot.com\/2006\/10\/book-review-to-be-continued-by-samuel.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\">review of a cessationist book<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\"> which seems to have a single \u201ccascading\u201d argument that I do not find at all convincing. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"meta\"><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\">Also, my friend Rob Wilkerson has certainly been busy this week \u2013 he has written <strong>Gospel-Driven Prophecy: Understanding the Differences Between OT and NT Prophecy<\/strong> all six parts are now available <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/mymiscellanies.blogspot.com\/2006\/10\/gospel-driven-prophecy-understanding.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><strong><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\">Part 1<\/span><\/strong><\/a><strong><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\">, <\/span><\/strong><a href=\"http:\/\/mymiscellanies.blogspot.com\/2006\/10\/gospel-driven-prophecy-understanding_17.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><strong><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\">Part 2<\/span><\/strong><\/a><strong><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\">, <\/span><\/strong><a href=\"http:\/\/mymiscellanies.blogspot.com\/2006\/10\/gospel-driven-prophecy-understanding_19.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><strong><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\">Part 3<\/span><\/strong><\/a><strong><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\">, <\/span><\/strong><a href=\"http:\/\/mymiscellanies.blogspot.com\/2006\/10\/gospel-driven-prophecy-understanding_23.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><strong><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\">Part 4<\/span><\/strong><\/a><strong><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\">, <\/span><\/strong><a href=\"http:\/\/mymiscellanies.blogspot.com\/2006\/10\/gospel-driven-prophecy-und_116165374017052338.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><strong><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\">Part 5<\/span><\/strong><\/a><strong><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\">, <\/span><\/strong><a href=\"http:\/\/mymiscellanies.blogspot.com\/2006\/10\/gospel-driven-prophecy-understanding_27.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><strong><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\">Part 6<\/span><\/strong><\/a><strong><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\">, <\/span><\/strong><a href=\"http:\/\/mymiscellanies.blogspot.com\/2006\/10\/gospel-driven-prophecy-understanding_29.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><strong><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\">Conclusion<\/span><\/strong><\/a><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\"><strong>Highlights from this series include the following quotes:<\/strong> <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\"><\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\">\u201c[New Testament] prophecy is no longer about a rare individual anointed as a prophet by another prophet. It is about the Holy Spirit anointing all His people to prophesy as His prophets \u2013 men and women, sons and daughters, children and adults, young and old, slave and free. None of this is in common with OT prophets.\u201d <\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\"><\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\">\u201c\u2026a plain reading of 2 Samuel 7:1-17 winds up the not-necessarily 100% accuracy track record for even OT prophets as necessary to remain alive or even maintain one\u2019s position as an OT prophet. In this text we read of David telling Nathan of his heart\u2019s desire to build a temple for the Lord. Nathan\u2019s response seemed fitting: \u201cAnd Nathan said to the king, \u201cGo, do all that is in your heart, for the Lord is with you\u2019\u201d (v. 3). At this point our minds are called to attention again with the rule of exegesis regarding context. The very next verse begins with a conjunction which contrasts verse 4 and what follows there with verse 3. \u201cBut that same night the word of the Lord came to Nathan\u2026\u201d In verses 5 and following, the Word of the Lord to Nathan differs completely from what Nathan the prophet told David to do. <strong>Yet strangely for our cessationists friends, Nathan still lives and retains his position as prophet of God.\u201d<\/strong> <\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\"><\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\">\u201cCessationism claims that if one has received and given a prophetic word he or she believes has come from God, then that prophetic word should be considered equal to the words of Scripture and therefore ought to be recorded in the Bible. To this a simple question would seem to resolve this dispute. Was every prophecy of every NT prophet enscripturated? How about every prophecy of every OT prophet? <\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\"><\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\">\u201cThe fact that some NT prophets had their messages recorded as Scripture does not necessitate that all NT prophets\u2019 messages must also be recorded there. God\u2019s sovereignty is the determining factor here, so that only He can explain why Agabus\u2019 prophecies are recorded and not the prophecies of Philip\u2019s three daughters, for example. A prophecy was recorded in Scripture when God sovereignly determined that it should be.\u201d<br><\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This is a round-up of some of the posts that caught my eye from the last week or so: First up, on items of clothing. 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