{"id":2542,"date":"2007-02-21T17:05:00","date_gmt":"2007-02-21T17:05:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/adrianwarnock.com\/2007\/02\/blogging-the-together-for-the-gospel-statement-the-place-of-truth\/"},"modified":"2017-09-16T18:23:45","modified_gmt":"2017-09-16T17:23:45","slug":"blogging-the-together-for-the-gospel-statement-the-place-of-truth","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2007\/02\/blogging-the-together-for-the-gospel-statement-the-place-of-truth\/","title":{"rendered":"Blogging the Together for the Gospel Statement &#8211; The Place of Truth"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.t4g.org\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/298\/2007\/02\/photo_bar.gif\" width=\"100%\"><\/a> <\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family:Trebuchet MS;color:#008000\"><strong>It\u2019s been awhile since I last did this, but I intend to <\/strong><\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/adrianwarnock.com\/2007\/02\/sermon-how-to-define-revival-and-be.htm\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span style=\"font-family:Trebuchet MS;color:#0000a0\">revive<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-family:Trebuchet MS;color:#008000\"><strong> the series now. For more information about <em>Together for the Gospel<\/em>, please see my <\/strong><\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/adrianwarnock.com\/2006\/04\/together-for-gospel-round-up-post.htm\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span style=\"font-family:Trebuchet MS;color:#0000a0\">Conference Round Up Post<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-family:Trebuchet MS;color:#008000\"><strong>. If you haven\u2019t already done so, I would encourage you to read the statement in full \u2014 it is available as either a <\/strong><\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.togetherforthegospel.org\/T4TG-statement.pdf\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span style=\"font-family:Trebuchet MS;color:#0000a0\">pdf<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-family:Trebuchet MS;color:#008000\"><strong> file or as <\/strong><\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/64.233.183.104\/search?q=cache:x-O_2cNXfWcJ:www.togetherforthegospel.org\/T4TG-statement.pdf+together+for+the+gospel+statement&amp;hl=en&amp;gl=uk&amp;ct=clnk&amp;cd=1http:\/\/www.google.com\/search?q=cache:x-O_2cNXfWcJ:www.togetherforthegospel.org\/T4TG-statement.pdf+to\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span style=\"font-family:Trebuchet MS;color:#0000a0\">Google\u2019s html version<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-family:Trebuchet MS;color:#008000\"><strong>. There is also an <\/strong><\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/adrianwarnock.com\/2006\/05\/free-christian-books-to-give-away_15.htm\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span style=\"font-family:Trebuchet MS;color:#0000a0\">ongoing Blogger\u2019s Challenge<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-family:Trebuchet MS;color:#008000\"><strong> which I have set to encourage us all to blog about this Statement \u2014 thanks to Crossway for donating five copies of <em>God is the Gospel <\/em>to encourage your participation! The first two books have been awarded to <\/strong><\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/theworldfrommywindow.blogspot.com\/2006\/09\/t4g-affirmation-denials-eschatology.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span style=\"font-family:Trebuchet MS;color:#0000a0\">Mathew Sims<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-family:Trebuchet MS;color:#008000\"><strong> (who has already finished blogging through each of the articles in a 25-part series!) and <\/strong><\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/42.blogs.warnock.me.uk\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span style=\"font-family:Trebuchet MS;color:#0000a0\">Dave Warnock<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-family:Trebuchet MS;color:#008000\"><strong>. It is not too late for you to win one of the remaining three by writing on your own blog or in the comments section about this important statement. Don\u2019t feel you have to cover the whole Statement \u2014 why not just pick an article that particularly interests you? <\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family:Trebuchet MS;color:#008000\"><strong>I have posted myself <\/strong><\/span><span style=\"font-family:Trebuchet MS;color:#008000\"><strong>on the <\/strong><a href=\"http:\/\/adrianwarnock.com\/2006\/05\/t4g-introduction-and-when-to-give-up.htm\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><strong>Introduction<\/strong><\/a><strong>, as well as a<\/strong> <a href=\"http:\/\/adrianwarnock.com\/2006\/06\/scripture-cannot-be-broken-t4g.htm\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">combined post<\/a><strong> on Articles 1 and 2. <\/strong><\/span><span style=\"font-family:Trebuchet MS;color:#008000\"><strong>I have also shared a<\/strong> <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/adrianwarnock.com\/2006\/06\/piper-friday-building-our-lives-on.htm\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span style=\"font-family:Trebuchet MS;color:#0000a0\">John Piper<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-family:Trebuchet MS\"><strong><span style=\"color:#008000\"> quote, and have posted from the Doctor\u2019s writings on the <a href=\"http:\/\/adrianwarnock.com\/2006\/05\/dr-martyn-lloyd-jones-mond_114824107423078893.htm\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Introduction<\/a>, Articles <a href=\"http:\/\/adrianwarnock.com\/2006\/05\/lloyd-jones-monday-is-bible.htm\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">1<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/adrianwarnock.com\/2006\/06\/martyn-lloyd-jones-monday-is-bible.htm\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">2<\/a>, and Article 3, <a href=\"http:\/\/adrianwarnock.com\/2006\/06\/mlj-monday-speaking-truth-in-love-t4g.htm\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">part 1<\/a> and<a href=\"http:\/\/adrianwarnock.com\/2006\/06\/mlj-monday-speaking-truth-in-love-part.htm\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"> part 2<\/a>.<\/span><\/strong><\/span><span style=\"font-family:Trebuchet MS\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-family:Trebuchet MS\"><strong>T4G Article 3<\/strong> <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family:Trebuchet MS\">We affirm that truth ever remains a central issue for the Church, and that the church must resist the allure of pragmatism and postmodern conceptions of truth as substitutes for obedience to the comprehensive truth claims of Scripture. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family:Trebuchet MS\">We deny that truth is merely a product of social construction or that the truth of the Gospel can be expressed or grounded in anything less than total confidence in the veracity of the Bible, the historicity of biblical events, and the ability of language to convey understandable truth in sentence form. We further deny that the church can establish its ministry on a foundation of pragmatism, current marketing techniques, or contemporary cultural fashions.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-family:Trebuchet MS\"><span style=\"font-family:Trebuchet MS\">Before Christmas I spoke at Jubilee Church, London, about the doctrine of the Scripture and addressed some of these issues. I thought that sharing my notes and the audio of this talk would be appropriate in light of this declaration, which I wholeheartedly endorse. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family:Trebuchet MS\">During my talk I mention that the Bible shows that God communicates and He is very good at doing it. God communication is a true message that comes through as the author intends it. I believe that God has done everything necessary to achieve just that. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\">The audio is available to <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/wp.patheos.com.s3.amazonaws.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/files\/2007\/02\/doctrine%20of%20the%20bible.mp3\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\">download<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\"> (you may need to right click and save the file onto your PC), as are my <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/adrianwarnock.com\/Jubilee_What_is_the_bible_final.ppt\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\">PowerPoint slides<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\"> (which should open in your browser), as well as a <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/wp.patheos.com.s3.amazonaws.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/files\/2007\/02\/Jubilee_What_is_the_Bible_final.doc\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\">handout<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-family:Trebuchet MS\"><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\"> which has some blank points for you to fill in.<\/span> <\/span><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family:Trebuchet MS\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family:Trebuchet MS\">Article 3 of the the<em> Together for<\/em> <em>Gospel Statement<\/em> focuses on truth. Much has been written about the post-modern conception of truth. It is perhaps almost trite to talk about the fallacy of an absolute statement that \u201cthere is no such thing as absolute truth\u201d. But, over-used phrases sometimes express things well. The notion of blurring the concept of truth is so vacuous as to be impossible to build a life on. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family:Trebuchet MS\">As a scientist, I have been raised with the idea that there is, indeed, such a thing as absolute truth. Either something has mass or it doesn\u2019t. <a href=\"http:\/\/adrianwarnock.com\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img decoding=\"async\" hspace=\"20\" src=\"https:\/\/adrianwarnock.com\/uploaded_images\/hand-736208.JPG\" width=\"35%\" align=\"right\" vspace=\"10\"><\/a>Either I will fall down because of gravity or float because I am in space. How can theology be any different? Give me someone who absolutely rejects the message of the Bible and the existence of its God any day over someone who tries to blur boundaries and talk about the \u201cspiritual meaning\u201d of events that they believe are basically lies. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family:Trebuchet MS\">I note that once more in this article of their Statement<br>\n the subject of the Bible is again core. Quite simply, it is not possible to have a Bible that is full of error and yet also the word of God. God is no liar. I cannot see how we can compromise with post-modern ideas of truth and have any Gospel left. For either God is too weak or disinterested to make sure we have a Bible that we can trust, or He is a deceiver. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family:Trebuchet MS\">It simply will not do to say that the Bible <i>contains<\/i> God\u2019s words and we have to discern them. For, even with a Bible that we have all agreed is trustworthy, evangelicals have succeeded in coming up with differing interpretations. Imagine what we will be like if the anchor of our faith is severed and we are cast adrift. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family:Trebuchet MS\">I honestly believe that this Statement, issued at the <em>Together for the Gospel<\/em> 2006 conference, comes from men who are <a href=\"http:\/\/adrianwarnock.com\/2005\/12\/apostles-are-meant-for-today-challies.htm\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">given to the whole church in the way described in Ephesians 4. <\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\"><strong><span style=\"color:#cc0000\">The series on the <em>T4G Statement<\/em> continues with <\/span><\/strong><a href=\"http:\/\/adrianwarnock.com\/2007\/02\/t4g-article-4-john-piper-on-expository.htm\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><strong><span style=\"color:#000099\">John Piper on Expository Preaching<\/span><\/strong><\/a><strong><span style=\"color:#cc0000\"> . . .<\/span><\/strong><\/span><br><span style=\"font-family:Trebuchet MS\"><\/span><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It\u2019s been awhile since I last did this, but I intend to revive the series now. 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