{"id":2543,"date":"2007-02-22T17:00:00","date_gmt":"2007-02-22T17:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/adrianwarnock.com\/2007\/02\/should-we-be-optimistic-or-pessimistic-about-the-future\/"},"modified":"2018-06-27T23:05:20","modified_gmt":"2018-06-27T22:05:20","slug":"should-we-be-optimistic-or-pessimistic-about-the-future","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2007\/02\/should-we-be-optimistic-or-pessimistic-about-the-future\/","title":{"rendered":"Should We be Optimistic or Pessimistic About the Future?"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><a href=\"http:\/\/adrianwarnock.com\/2006\/01\/adrian-interviews-mark-dever.htm\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img decoding=\"async\" hspace=\"20\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/298\/2007\/02\/0,,1472484,00.jpg\" align=\"right\" vspace=\"20\"><\/a> <\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\"><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\">Mark Dever over at <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/blog.togetherforthegospel.org\/2007\/02\/whered_we_go_an.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\">Together for the Gospel<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\"> has written about how we should expect persecution. He may well be right. As I read his post, however, and also a few of his buddy, Al Mohler\u2019s, cultural observations, I wonder if I detect a more general note of pessimism about the future of the church.\n<p>I may very well be wrong about that in the case of the individual people I mention, but I\u2019m sure there are many Christians who are, indeed, very negative about the future. It certainly seems that Spurgeon\u2019s view that <\/p><\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/adrianwarnock.com\/2007\/02\/spurgeon-on-extent-of-salvation-will.htm\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\">more will be saved than not<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\"> is vanishingly rare today. <\/span><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\"><\/span><\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\"><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\">So which is it? Are you an optimist or pessimist about the future of the church and why?<\/span><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><span style=\"font-family:Trebuchet MS\"><\/span><\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\"><span style=\"font-family:Trebuchet MS;color:#cc0000\"><strong>UPDATE<\/strong><\/span><\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><span style=\"font-family:Trebuchet MS\">Mark Dever has written more <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.togetherforthegospel.org\/2007\/02\/completely_unav.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">about optimism and pessimism<\/a> concerning the future over on his blog.  Here\u2019s a quote from his lead paragraph:<\/span><\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div align=\"justify\"><span style=\"font-family:Trebuchet MS\"><\/span> <\/div>\n<div align=\"justify\"><span style=\"font-family:trebuchet ms\">Our brother Al Mohler once said somewhere that \u201coptimism is naive, but pessimism is atheistic.\u201d  I think he\u2019s right.  On non-ultimate matters (our government\u2019s fate, our culture\u2019s response to the Gospel, the world in rebellion against God) we can be agnostic or even pessimistic.  But on ultimate matters\u2014God\u2019s glory, His victory in procuring a people to His eternal praise, the triumph of the church\u2014there is nothing but ultimate optimism presented in the Bible\u2014Old Testament or New.  Jesus promised in Matt. 16 that His church will prevail.  We see from visions in Ezekiel, Daniel, Revelation, and prophecies in Isaiah and the Gospels that, in the end, and FOREVER,  GOD WINS!!<\/span><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Mark Dever over at Together for the Gospel has written about how we should expect persecution. He may well be right. As I read his post, however, and also a few of his buddy, Al Mohler\u2019s, cultural observations, I wonder if I detect a more general note of pessimism about the future of the church. 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