{"id":3003,"date":"2008-03-07T13:54:00","date_gmt":"2008-03-07T13:54:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/adrianwarnock.com\/2008\/03\/piper-friday-john-piper-on-the-baptism-with-the-holy-spirit\/"},"modified":"2018-07-29T10:51:03","modified_gmt":"2018-07-29T09:51:03","slug":"piper-friday-john-piper-on-baptism-with","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2008\/03\/piper-friday-john-piper-on-baptism-with\/","title":{"rendered":"PIPER FRIDAY – John Piper on the Baptism With the Holy Spirit"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<\/head>

Last Friday I shared a quote from John Piper on the baptism with the Holy Spirit<\/a>. In it he quoted an illustration that Martyn Lloyd-Jones used. Today, partly because I am working through a series of questions a reader has posed, I thought I would share another quote from Dr. Piper which might surprise some of my readers. <\/p>\n

\u201cI would start by saying that in the book of Acts, everywhere the receiving of the Holy Spirit is described, it is experiential. What I mean is that it\u2019s not just a logical inference that you know has happened to you only because something else has happened. \"John<\/a>Instead, it has effects that are clearly discernible. In the book of Acts a person knows when he receives the Holy Spirit. It is an experience with effects you can point to.<\/p>\n

Let me illustrate this from Acts 19:2. The situation is that Paul has come to Ephesus and found there some disciples who, as it turns out, only know the baptism of John the Baptist and have not been baptized into the name of Jesus. Paul detects something wrong and breaks the whole thing open by asking a key question in verse 2: \u201cDid you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?\u201d<\/p>\n

Now that is a remarkable question for contemporary American evangelicals who have been taught by and large that the way you know you have received the Holy Spirit is that you are a believer. We have been told that you can know that you have the Holy Spirit because all who believe have the Holy Spirit. It\u2019s a logical inference. So if we want to know if someone has received the Holy Spirit, we would ask, \u201cHave you believed on Jesus?\u201d If the answer is yes, then we know the person received the Holy Spirit. Receiving the Holy Spirit is a logical inference, not an experience to point to.<\/p>\n

But Paul\u2019s question isn\u2019t like that, is it? Paul says, \u201cDid you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?\u201d We scratch our heads and say, \u201cI don\u2019t get it, Paul. If you assume we believed, why don\u2019t you assume we received the Holy Spirit? We\u2019ve been taught that all who believe receive the Holy Spirit. We\u2019ve been taught to just believe that the Spirit is there whether there are any effects or not. But you talk as if there is a way to know we\u2019ve received the Holy Spirit different from believing. You talk as if we could point to an experience of the Spirit apart from believing in order to answer your question.\u201d<\/p>\n

And that is, in fact, the way Paul talks. When he asks, \u201cDid you receive the Spirit when you believed?\u201d he expects that a person who has \u201creceived the Holy Spirit\u201d knows it, not just because it\u2019s an inference from his faith in Christ, but because it is an experience with effects that we can point to.<\/p>\n

That is what runs all the way through this book of Acts. All the explicit descriptions of receiving the Holy Spirit are experiential (not inferential).\u201d<\/p>\n

\u2014 John Piper, 1991
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