Mark Driscoll\u2019s other speaking engagements in the UK<\/a>.<\/p>\n*************************
Adrian<\/span><\/em><\/strong>
Hi everyone. This is Adrian Warnock here again. I\u2019m here at Together on a Mission<\/em>, together with John Lanferman. John leads the work of Newfrontiers in the USA. I would like to ask him a little bit about the conference, and also his work overseas, because I\u2019m aware that a lot of you are probably thinking, \u201cWell, this Newfrontiers thing\u2014it\u2019s all well and good because it\u2019s over in the UK\u201d \u2014 where things are perhaps a little bit different. So, John, first of all, how are you enjoying the conference?<\/p>\nJohn<\/span><\/em><\/strong>
I think it\u2019s magnificent. The preaching has been outstanding. The worship is amazing. God\u2019s presence is here. He is speaking personally to people. He\u2019s speaking to us as a family of churches as well. It\u2019s wonderful to welcome 53 different nations into this setting.<\/p>\nAdrian<\/span><\/em><\/strong>
Yes, I think it\u2019s so important to underline that, isn\u2019t it, because people probably think, \u201cOh, it\u2019s just a British thing,\u201d when really it\u2019s almost like a world conference, isn\u2019t it?<\/p>\nJohn<\/span><\/em><\/strong>
Absolutely, it is. And just to make connection with people and find out what\u2019s happening in their nations, and to see that we\u2019re really on the same page as it relates to the kingdom of God. There\u2019s not really a national distinction there when it comes to that.<\/p>\nAdrian<\/span><\/em><\/strong>
Yeah, I know. It\u2019s been great. Some of the preachers have come from South Africa and . . .<\/p>\nJohn<\/span><\/em><\/strong>
Absolutely.<\/p>\nAdrian<\/span><\/em><\/strong>
You\u2019ve got guys from Africa, other parts, all over, haven\u2019t we here?<\/p>\nJohn<\/span><\/em><\/strong>
Yes, it\u2019s wonderful.<\/p>\nAdrian<\/span><\/em><\/strong>
I guess really as well, this conference is perhaps a little bit different to some other conferences, isn\u2019t it, in terms of the family feel. I don\u2019t know how easily we can get that across to people who are at home reading the blog.<\/p>\nJohn<\/span><\/em><\/strong>
I think that\u2019s the interesting thing. When you come together and you see people, and some of the people, of course, we know as well. But even in meeting new people, there\u2019s a sense of community that seems to be automatic, and it\u2019s just great to see people mixing it up, enjoying each other.<\/p>\nAdrian<\/span><\/em><\/strong>
Yeah, I think that\u2019s right, because that doesn\u2019t happen everywhere we go in conferences, does it?
<\/span><\/em><\/strong>
J<\/span><\/em><\/strong>ohn
<\/span><\/em><\/strong>No, I know some conferences that you may visit, and some I\u2019ve visited in the US \u2014 I mean, you arrive. If you don\u2019t know anyone or if you have a friend or two, you\u2019re really not connected. There\u2019s not a sense of togetherness on the mission . . .<\/p>\nAdrian<\/span><\/em><\/strong>
Yeah . . .<\/p>\nJohn<\/span><\/em><\/strong>
. . . and you break off, you go to lunch, or you go to your hotel room. There\u2019s a sense of \u2014 you\u2019re there to pick up information primarily and download information that maybe you can employ in your own situation.<\/p>\nAdrian<\/span><\/em><\/strong>
Yeah.<\/p>\nJohn<\/em><\/strong> <\/span>
But here it\u2019s a totally different feel.<\/p>\nAdrian<\/span><\/em><\/strong>
That\u2019s right. And there\u2019s all these kind of little mini-meetings going on in all the breaks, isn\u2019t there? I mean, the little breaks sort of get eaten up, don\u2019t they?<\/p>\nJohn<\/span><\/em><\/strong>
All the time.<\/p>\nAdrian<\/span><\/em><\/strong>
(Laughing). And we\u2019re sitting here and we\u2019ve got what? I don\u2019t know\u2014another hour or so?\u2014before the next session. And you squeeze in a meeting, don\u2019t you?<\/p>\nJohn<\/span><\/em><\/strong>
That\u2019s right, you do.<\/p>\nAdrian<\/span><\/em><\/strong>
But it\u2019s good fun.<\/p>\nJohn<\/span><\/em><\/strong>
So it\u2019s a pleasure, I think, as well, the in-between meeting times to connect relationally, talk to each other, find out what\u2019s going on. It\u2019s all part of the whole package.<\/p>\nAdrian<\/span><\/em><\/strong>
Yeah, exactly. John, I particularly wanted to chat with you because you head up the work of Newfrontiers in the USA, and so many of my readers are from that nation. So, are there many other Americans here at the conference?<\/p>\nJohn<\/span><\/em><\/strong>
Yes, there are several actually. We have four of our own local elders from St. Louis who are here, and some of our other staff members as well. But besides that, across the nation, we have representatives who lead churches that are here with us.<\/p>\nAdrian<\/span><\/em><\/strong>
So are there many Newfrontiers churches in the US?<\/p>\nJohn<\/span><\/em><\/strong>
Actually, there\u2019s not at the time. We now have 23 churches in ten different states, but it was just a few years ago, like ten years ago, we had 7 churches in one state . . .<\/p>\nAdrian<\/span><\/em><\/strong>
Right.<\/p>\nJohn<\/span><\/em><\/strong>
. . . so these were churches that already had a history. Terry [Virgo] came over and spent a couple of years and left. It was in that setting, then, that we began to actually formulate who we were together, come together with a real sense of mission. We have church
\nes that have a history, and we\u2019ve been drawn together around Terry, and around the mission there, but obviously there are residual issues, so I think in the first few years there was a need for us to really come together to construct that all through, which we did, of course, and now we\u2019re planting churches all across the nation.<\/p>\nAdrian<\/span><\/em><\/strong>
Okay, excellent. How do you decide where to go and plant a church?<\/p>\nJohn<\/span><\/em><\/strong>
I have, on my laptop, 100 cities, and I won\u2019t be content until the top 100 cities in the U.S.\u201487 per cent of the nation\u2019s population reside in these cities\u2014so, one by one, we want to tick off these cities. When Newfrontiers started in the US, we were primarily a rural movement. We didn\u2019t have any churches in any major cities. So, first of all, to come together around a mission and then begin to train leaders and set up training programs, to begin to envision people, and then see people move from the rural settings\u2014although we\u2019re very, very grateful; we\u2019re still planting the rural settings\u2014begin to make that big step into city centers. Kansas City was our first church plant; St. Louis (the one I led) was our second plant, and now we are in seven major cities. We\u2019re in Seattle-Tacoma. We\u2019re in Boston. We\u2019re in Chicago. We\u2019re in Nashville. We\u2019re in Atlanta. We\u2019re planting churches one by one into these major city centers, and we want these churches to become reproducing centers, so out from them churches are planted. So we have a fairly ambitious vision.<\/p>\nAdrian<\/span><\/em><\/strong>
Yeah, it sounds like it. So, what is it about a Newfrontiers church that is, say, different to other churches in the grand? Because I know some people might say, \u201cWell, why bother planting churches? Surely we should just strengthen the ones that are there already.\u201d<\/p>\nJohn<\/span><\/em><\/strong>
I think the thing that really draws us together is our sense of mission. Now there are other things, of course, that draw us together. Our very real value of Word and Spirit. We\u2019re an interesting group because, in the US, you have evangelicals and people from various denominational persuasions. You have people who are charismatics. We\u2019re a bit different because we are evangelical in that we are rooted in historic Christian faith. Most of our people would have a reformed theological perception. But we have a charismatic experience. And that\u2019s quite unusual in the US. I think it sets us a bit apart from most other groups\u2014not that there aren\u2019t others that way\u2014but it makes us different, I think, from what you would normally find in the US.<\/p>\nAdrian<\/span><\/em><\/strong>
Yeah. I sometimes have people writing to me, saying, \u201cIs there a church like that in this place or in that place?\u201d And I often wonder what other groups are there out there that are similar to Newfrontiers in some way. Are there other groups?<\/p>\nJohn<\/span><\/em><\/strong>
I would say Sovereign Grace would be similar to us. We\u2019ve had good fellowship with that group. But there\u2019s an interesting phenomenon that\u2019s happening as well because in mainline evangelical circles, people that would have name recognition\u2014guys like John Piper or Mark Driscoll\u2014are, of course, well established in orthodox faith, but as well, are very open to and accepting and believing in certain charismatic expressions. So, it\u2019s an interesting move that\u2019s happening in the US in that regard.<\/p>\nAdrian<\/span><\/em><\/strong>
Yeah. So there\u2019s a kind of\u2014like what you\u2019re saying\u2014a coming together of the Word and the Spirit in a way.<\/p>\nJohn<\/span><\/em><\/strong>
I believe that\u2019s exactly true. We do have other things. It\u2019s a big country. The Christian television market, religious television market, and radio waves are fairly dominated by charismatics that would have a very experiential and often times a man-centered approach . . .<\/p>\nAdrian<\/span><\/em><\/strong>
Right.<\/p>\nJohn<\/span><\/em><\/strong>
. . . rather than a God-centered approach, which of course, is not helpful to be labeled in that particular camp because our root is indeed orthodox evangelical Christianity with a charismatic experience and expression.<\/p>\nContinued in part 2<\/a> . . .<\/span><\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Next week the main Newfrontiers International conference of the year starts. To whet your appetite, I thought I\u2019d share the transcript of an interview I did at Together On A Mission 2007 with John Lanferman. The audio for this interview is also available here. John oversees a team of leaders who serve the churches in […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1268,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[54,170],"tags":[561,595,598],"class_list":["post-3144","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-john-lanferman","category-toam07","tag-john-piper","tag-newfrontiers","tag-terry-virgo"],"yoast_head":"\n
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