{"id":40967,"date":"2024-11-04T18:47:05","date_gmt":"2024-11-04T18:47:05","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/?p=40967"},"modified":"2025-11-19T18:49:08","modified_gmt":"2025-11-19T18:49:08","slug":"pro-life-voting-beyond-anti-abortion-protecting-all-lives","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2024\/11\/pro-life-voting-beyond-anti-abortion-protecting-all-lives\/","title":{"rendered":"Pro-Life Voting: Beyond Anti-Abortion, Protecting All Lives"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><figure id=\"attachment_43150\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-43150\" style=\"width: 768px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-43150 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/298\/2024\/11\/isaac-quesada-dZYI4ga2eUA-unsplash-scaled.jpeg\" alt=\"Newborn Baby being held by hands in the shape of a womb\" width=\"768\" height=\"513\"><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-43150\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Newborn Baby being held by hands in the shape of a womb. What makes the baby different when it is outside the mother\u2019s body? Image: <a href=\"https:\/\/unsplash.com\/@isaacquesada?utm_content=creditCopyText&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_source=unsplash\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Isaac Quesada<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p><h2>Single-issue abortion voting is outdated and pointless. \u00a0There are the other issues Christians should vote on.<\/h2>\n<p>The gospel sits at the literal crux of the paradox between justice and mercy, vengeance and forgiveness, righteous anger and gracious love. Jesus death and resurrection is the only way to bridge that chasm and experience wholeness and restoration.<\/p>\n<p>In the USA Christians often vote on the single issue of who they think will advance the cause of banning abortion the most. \u00a0This is perhaps THE major reason why Trump won his first election. \u00a0Evangelicals believed he would appoint conservative judges to the Supreme Court and overturn Roe vs Wade in the process. \u00a0And, unlike any Republican president before him he did deliver on exactly that. \u00a0As a result he is seen by many as the champion of the Church, and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2024\/11\/trump-vs-kamala-harris-roundup\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">they turn a blind eye<\/a> to all the things about him that are very much against Christian values. \u00a0 However, whilst legal changes do have some affect on abortion rates, this is less than you might think due to travel. There is evidence that <a href=\"https:\/\/apple.news\/A-MSbipvKTwCkc9ReanKaQg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">making social policy decisions<\/a> may be even more important. \u00a0Whilst the data is debated (as is often the case) there is some support for the idea that <a href=\"https:\/\/www.politifact.com\/factchecks\/2020\/sep\/25\/facebook-posts\/graph-us-abortion-rate-during-different-presidents\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">under democratic presidents, who try to look after the poor, abortion rates have fallen faster than under republicans<\/a>.<\/p>\n<h2>If you are reading this and have had an abortion yourself, please know that <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2024\/10\/how-to-deal-with-shame-accusations-and-condemnation\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">this it is NOT an unforgivable sin<\/a>. \u00a0 The gospel offer of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2024\/06\/what-does-justification-mean-how-can-we-be-forgiven\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">forgiveness<\/a> at great cost to Jesus extends to everyone, no matter what we have done. \u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2024\/11\/are-you-weary-come-to-jesus-he-will-give-you-rest\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Just run to him<\/a>.<\/h2>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<div style=\"border: 2px solid #4a6d8c; border-radius: 12px; padding: 24px; margin: 40px 0; background-color: #f8fbff; text-align: center; font-size: 1.05em; line-height: 1.7; box-shadow: 0 4px 12px rgba(0,0,0,0.05);\">\n<p style=\"margin: 0 0 14px; font-weight: bold; font-size: 1.35em; color: #2c3e50;\">Help When Life Hurts<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0 0 18px; color: #34495e;\">This article is part of a growing collection, drawing from Adrian Warnock\u2019s medical and psychological expertise, lived experience, and Christian faith.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 0 0 18px; color: #34495e; font-weight: 600;\">Click the type of pain you or a loved one are experiencing right now<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 14px 0; font-size: 1.05em;\"><a style=\"color: #4a6d8c;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2025\/11\/help-when-life-hurts\/#general-suffering\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">General suffering &amp; disappointment<\/a><br>\n<a style=\"color: #4a6d8c;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2025\/11\/help-when-life-hurts\/#financial-ruin\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Financial difficulties<\/a><br>\n<a style=\"color: #4a6d8c;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2025\/11\/help-when-life-hurts\/#feeling-disqualified\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Feeling disqualified<\/a><br>\n<a style=\"color: #4a6d8c;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2025\/11\/help-when-life-hurts\/#chronic-illness\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Chronic illness &amp; disability<\/a><br>\n<a style=\"color: #4a6d8c;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2025\/11\/help-when-life-hurts\/#divorce\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Divorce &amp; family pain<\/a><br>\n<a style=\"color: #4a6d8c;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2025\/11\/help-when-life-hurts\/#mental-health\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Depression &amp; mental health<\/a><br>\n<a style=\"color: #4a6d8c;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2025\/11\/help-when-life-hurts\/#bereavement\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Bereavement &amp; end-of-life<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin: 24px 0 0;\"><a style=\"background: #4a6d8c; color: white; padding: 12px 28px; border-radius: 8px; text-decoration: none; font-weight: bold; font-size: 1.15em; display: inline-block;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2025\/11\/help-when-life-hurts\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"> See the full list of over 40 articles<br>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"border: none; overflow: hidden;\" src=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/plugins\/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fadrianwarnock%2Fposts%2Fpfbid0rHNgZZMETWsLM5CDAGshzdmHKmvAomzeS78JzN13B4ahwFECcnrdJj9zWvnTUPGrl&amp;show_text=true&amp;width=500\" width=\"500\" height=\"250\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<h2><strong>Jesus said, \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2024\/11\/are-you-weary-come-to-jesus-he-will-give-you-rest\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Come to me<\/a>, all of you who are weary and carry heavy burdens, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you. Let me teach you, because I am humble and gentle at heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy to bear, and the burden I give you is light.\u201d (Matthew 11:29-30, NLT)<\/strong><\/h2>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>A post that did the rounds on Facebook made the following claim:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>\u201cNeither party wants to see abortions increase. The difference is in strategy: the Republicans approach of \u2018Make it illegal\u2019 vs. the Democrats approach of \u2018Make it unnecessary.\u2019 Which is more effective? The numbers speak for themselves.A graphic on U.S. abortion rates shows larger declines during recent Democratic presidential administrations, and says its due to the party\u2019s approach of making abortions unnecessary, rather than the Republican Party\u2019s approach of making the procedure illegal.\u201d \u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.politifact.com\/factchecks\/2020\/sep\/25\/facebook-posts\/graph-us-abortion-rate-during-different-presidents\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Politifact <\/a><\/strong><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The post graphic states that the abortion rate (per 1,000 women ages 15-44) declined by the following percentages: \u00a0Reagan (Rep): 4%, George H. W. Bush (Rep): 4%, Clinton (Dem): 30%, \u00a0George W. Bush (Rep): 3%, Obama (Dem): 26%. \u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.politifact.com\/factchecks\/2020\/sep\/25\/facebook-posts\/graph-us-abortion-rate-during-different-presidents\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Politifact stated<\/a> these figures are broadly accurate and said they thought Obamacare health improvements which were associated with with increased access to contraceptives had been responsible for the largest drop. They did acknowledge, however, other factors may be at play here so could not 100% confirm that the party in the White House would have a similar effect going forward. But demolishing Obamacare as per Trump\u2019s planis surely not going to help!<\/p>\n<h2>Kamala\u2019s policy of giving new parents financial support, and better access to healthcare including contraception may save many more lives than recent legal changes.<\/h2>\n<h2><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2024\/11\/trump-vs-kamala-harris-roundup\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">See also my roundup Trump vs Harris article<\/a><\/h2>\n<p><strong>Trump has in any case now said he will <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/faith4today\/2024\/10\/understanding-the-impact-of-the-2024-election-on-our-faith\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">NOT be enacting any more anti abortion policies<\/a>,<\/strong> and would actually veto any national ban he was presented with. \u00a0Trump was pro abortion before he was anti it and is now trying to say he is anti making any decisions on it as president. \u00a0Electing him will therefore make precisely zero difference on this issue. Except that he plans to make getting medical help more difficult, contraception more difficult, and the financial environment for poor people more difficult. \u00a0All of which may increase the rate of abortions. \u00a0Policies like that have in the past.<\/p>\n<p>A recent <a href=\"https:\/\/apple.news\/A-MSbipvKTwCkc9ReanKaQg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">opinion piece in The Hill<\/a> says,<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The most reliable way to reduce the abortion rate is to make life less difficult for people who have babies . . . Harris has <a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/VP\/status\/1753218028886430126\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">strongly supported<\/a> the expanded child tax credit, which briefly pulled millions of children out of poverty . . . The tax credit <a href=\"https:\/\/www.urban.org\/urban-wire\/permanently-expanding-child-tax-credit-would-increase-kids-lifetime-earnings-and\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">increases educational attainment and lifetime earnings<\/a>, with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cbpp.org\/research\/federal-tax\/gains-from-expanded-child-tax-credit-outweigh-overstated-employment-worries\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">no discernible negative effect<\/a> on employment. Harris has <a href=\"https:\/\/apple.news\/AbrSzno36SvSUsrMPBTTG8w\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">long advocated<\/a> for paid family leave and subsidized child care.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"border: none; overflow: hidden;\" src=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/plugins\/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fadrianwarnock%2Fposts%2Fpfbid036w2bK6HfjsnFnrPvwoTWpPFLoiySvZWAunq6XVEP2Bbf6irhHgGzecSCJ8hKwE2Cl&amp;show_text=true&amp;width=500\" width=\"500\" height=\"250\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>The government policy that has had the <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Abortion_statistics_in_the_United_States#Trends_in_abortion_statistics\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">most dramatic<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/jscholarship.library.jhu.edu\/items\/a7453b4b-9d49-4c64-b3d5-6521bb8e02b8\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">impact<\/a> on lowering the abortion rate is Obamacare, which requires health insurers to cover the cost of contraception. Fewer unintended pregnancies means fewer abortions. Republicans remain unenthusiastic about Obamacare, and Trump did what he could to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.brookings.edu\/articles\/six-ways-trump-has-sabotaged-the-affordable-care-act\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">sabotage<\/a> it.\u201d <a href=\"https:\/\/apple.news\/A-MSbipvKTwCkc9ReanKaQg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Read the rest\u00a0<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Meanwhile America\u2019s children will continue to be murdered with assault rifles that are essentially machine guns and those deaths chalked up to being an acceptable cost for the benefit of animal hunters who surely only need a single shot to kill a deer. \u00a0Kamala Harris will save lives by bringing in sensible gun control laws. \u00a0Why do Christians not care about that? Or about the risk of escalating war leading to more deaths in other countries in Europe by surrendering to Trump\u2019s good friend, Putin? \u00a0And of course if you want to be pro life for the whole of life then you need decent free healthcare and Kamala wants to make steps that way whilst Trump wants to allow insurance companies to refuse to insure people like me who have pre existing conditions. \u00a0 This is why I say you are now at the point where American Christians need to accept that there are other pro-life issues to consider than only abortion.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\">\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">In Roman times abortion and infantacide were common. The early church didn\u2019t try and find a pro life strong man to replace Caesar. They demonstrated and shared the love of Christ and turned the world upside down. Let\u2019s do that. This is the way.<\/p>\n<p>\u2014 Adrian Warnock (@adrianwarnock) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/adrianwarnock\/status\/1853627238735839305?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">November 5, 2024<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><br>\nI also believe that there are many aspects of Trumps personality and values \u00a0that \u00a0are incredibly unhelpful, and that <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2024\/10\/the-trump-cult-is-a-false-religion-infiltrating-the-church\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">he has contaminated the USA church with a false religion<\/a>. So all that that, together with many major policy issues for me actually trumps the abortion issue (pun intended).<\/p>\n<p>In my <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2024\/11\/trump-vs-kamala-harris-roundup\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Trump vs Kamala Harris roundup post<\/a> I embedded a few podcasts and the links are set to auto update to the latest episode. One of them popped up later that day with <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/gb\/podcast\/the-news-agents\/id1640878689?i=1000675378924&amp;amp;r=1915\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">an episode all about abortion<\/a>. To be honest I think it is important for Christians to listen to that episode for two reasons:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li><strong>It is vital for us to understand how we are being perceived nowadays, and it is not pretty<\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong>Some of the things being done in the name of God concerning harassing women who are having abortions bring shame to the name of Christ.<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>More of all that later in this article. \u00a0You might want to listen to the podcast now before carrying on reading, but I interact with some of the key points below.<\/p>\n<p><strong>The News Agents: SPECIAL REPORT: A war on women \u2013 Florida\u2019s abortion crisis, Nov 1, 2024<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"border-radius: 12px;\" src=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/embed\/episode\/6mVEcMPzgwh7cJwBPpczYp?utm_source=generator\" width=\"100%\" height=\"152\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>As a result of seeing it on my site, someone asked me if my support for Harris meant that I had now become pro abortion, I want to be clear that is NOT the case. \u00a0However, \u00a0if I was in the USA<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2024\/10\/chilling-the-apprentice-trump-movie-review\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"> I would not vote for Trump<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>I still believe a baby inside the womb immediately before birth is no different from the baby when it is outside the womb. \u00a0I also believe that in most circumstances abortion is morally no different to murder. \u00a0If you wouldn\u2019t \u201cabort\u201d a baby after birth why would you do so before birth? \u00a0This lack of a moral distinction between a baby immediately before it is born and immediately after it is born has led some ethicists to say that there should be a woman\u2019s choice to do with what just came out of her body, in exactly the same way as she could do so before the birth. There is no serious evidence of \u201cpost birth abortion\u201d actually happening in the US or anywhere else I am aware of. \u00a0However, more than ten years ago ethicists in the <a href=\"https:\/\/jme.bmj.com\/content\/39\/5\/261\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">BMJ Medical Ethics Journal<\/a> \u00a0seriously and chillingly argued that what they call <a href=\"https:\/\/jme.bmj.com\/content\/39\/5\/261\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">after birth abortions<\/a> should be legal whenever an abortion in the womb would have been. The Daily Mail commented on this:<\/p>\n<h2>\u201cDoctors should have the right to kill newborn babies because they are disabled, too expensive or simply unwanted by their mothers\u201d <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dailymail.co.uk\/debate\/article-2108761\/Killing-newborn-babies-perfectly-logical--thats-problem.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"> Mail Online<\/a>.<\/h2>\n<p>The Mail article goes on to point out how this argument fatally undermines the case for abortion itself:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cI\u2019ll come to why her argument is so important in a moment. First, the facts steel yourself \u2013 this is grim. Francesca Minerva, from Melbourne University and sometime of our very own Oxford, and her colleague Alberto Giubilini, argue in the British Medical Journal that after-birth abortion should be permissable in all cases that abortion is. As potential persons, newborn babies share the same moral status as foetuses, which are not actual persons, in that they have no sense of their own existence.It follows that infanticide should be legalised for babies with abnormalities not detected during pregnancy, which would otherwise have qualified for abortion, and by the same token for those which would have been aborted because their parents could not materially or psychologically cope with a child.I suggest that most people reading the previous paragraphs will resile from that proposition in disgust and disbelief. But why? If newborn babies havent developed any material consciousness beyond what they had in the womb, why not dispose of them in the same way? In this context, the term-limits for abortion of foetuses seem entirely arbitrary, based on the squeamishness of we who are born rather than the actual or potential humanity of the unborn.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>via <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dailymail.co.uk\/debate\/article-2108761\/Killing-newborn-babies-perfectly-logical--thats-problem.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Killing newborn babies is perfectly logical \u2013 thats the problem | Mail Online<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<figure id=\"attachment_40976\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-40976\" style=\"width: 768px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-40976\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/298\/2024\/05\/new-life-71200-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"Mother and Baby\" width=\"768\" height=\"490\"><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-40976\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Mother and Baby <a href=\"https:\/\/pixabay.com\/\/?utm_source=link-attribution&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_campaign=image&amp;utm_content=7402106\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Pixabay<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>As I said it earlier we need to understand that society as a whole is guilty for setting conditions that leave women feeling they have no choice but to have an abortion. We need to make it easier for women to choose NOT to abort their child. \u00a0Social conditions need to be changed. Judgement needs to be reduced. \u00a0If you attend a church that would kick out of its membership a young woman who gave birth before being married then do not be surprised if even church kids choose to abort any pregnancies. \u00a0Why do so many Christians condemn single mothers? \u00a0You are condemning the parent who stayed, the parent who chose to make sacrifices for another life not just during pregnancy but for the rest of their lives. \u00a0We need to celebrate motherhood in all its forms, and understand that life is not always as tidy as we want it to be.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\">\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">In Roman times abortion and infantacide were common. The early church didn\u2019t try and find a pro life strong man to replace Caesar. They demonstrated and shared the love of Christ and turned the world upside down. Let\u2019s do that. This is the way.<\/p>\n<p>\u2014 Adrian Warnock (@adrianwarnock) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/adrianwarnock\/status\/1853627238735839305?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">November 5, 2024<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>As I said earlier, I am not in favor of abortions. Like most people I do have some excemptions to that, one obvious one being when a woman\u2019s life is at risk from an unviable pregnancy. As an example, a pregnancy can develop in a fallopian tube rather than the womb itself. Without surgery to remove the developing baby, that tube will burst and the mother and baby will both die. It would be immoral to not act in such a situation, as you are simply terminating a life that would otherwise die alongside a second life that your intervention has saved. Once you have made that allowance, of course there are then important medical questions about just how bad does the mother\u2019s health need to be before you can act? These dilemmas are facing doctors in the USA right now as some states seem to have somewhat bodged the job of passing laws about exactly when they will and will not allow abortion to take place. \u00a0There have been deaths caused by indecision related to legal jeapody under the new legal climate. This is tragic.<\/p>\n<p>As one Floridian explained on the podcast episode I mentioned earlier abortion is almost completely illegal in Florida now:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cThere are exceptions, but they\u2019re very narrow and very limited. It\u2019s to create this environment where doctors are uncomfortable providing care, even when a woman\u2019s life is at risk. So we\u2019ve had situations where patients have had to become more sick, where the doctor will provide them care, and situations where patients have had to leave the state of Florida in order to access that care that they need . . . And we had a situation with a woman in Brevard County, which is a very conservative county here in Florida, and she had an ectopic pregnancy that no doctor was comfortable diagnosing because they were fearful of being wrong in their diagnosis. And she was forced to travel to New York to access this termination. And those stories are becoming ever more common . . .And so doctors are not going to risk it. They\u2019re just going to pass the patient to a different doctor. They\u2019re going to maybe send the patient back home to bleed out before they\u2019ll provide them with abortion care . . . We\u2019re seeing women die from infection and hemorrhage. Recently, there was a case in Georgia where a woman spent 20 hours in the hospital and died without getting the DNC that would have saved her life.\u201d <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/gb\/podcast\/the-news-agents\/id1640878689?i=1000675378924&amp;r=681\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">The News Agents: SPECIAL REPORT: A war on women<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>There are lots of other exceptions that some people who are in general pro-life and anti-abortion position might add. I could debate each and every one here, but that would be a long . I am increasingly convinced that we need to learn from the other side says and how they see the issue. \u00a0 I wish that Harris would say something like \u00a0\u201c<strong>we want there to be the need for as few abortions as possible and we aim to make it so that a woman doesn\u2019t\u00a0feel forced to do this<\/strong>\u201c. Is it really pro choice when abortions are done for financial reasons because the support is not there? What about when disadvantaged groups feel they cone under even more under pressure, and when planned parenthood is widely understood to have begun as an explicitly race cleansing exercise?<\/p>\n<p><strong>It was good for me to listen to a podcast from the other side and see how Christians come across on this issue.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>These quotes from how they introduced the episode are quite punchy:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Journalist:<\/strong> \u201cYou\u2019re saying that if your brother has sex with his sister and impregnates her, that that woman, and that that woman should be forced to bring that child to term and bring up that child . . .And that woman should live with the trauma of that day after day, bringing up that child. But shouldn\u2019t that be her choice? Okay, maybe she\u2019ll want to do that. Who the XXX are you to tell a woman who has been abused, sexually abused by her father or her brother or her uncle that she must, why would you punish that innocent woman by making her have that child?\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Guest: <\/strong>\u201cIt\u2019s awful. But the child is a gift. He deserves to go to jail. But that child is a gift. The child\u2019s value is not dependent on whether his father is a rapist.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Journalist<\/strong>: \u201cThat is the sound of zeal. The sound of a small man, like many small men who have had an outsized power over women\u2019s lives . . . \u00a0We came to Florida and it became clear very quickly that there is one issue above all which is shaping politics here. The right to choose. \u00a0The right for women to have autonomy over their own bodies in the land of the free. What you\u2019re about to hear is shocking. Abortion casts the darkest pall over the Sunshine State.<\/p>\n<p>But as big as it is, it is itself part of something even bigger. A redesign of social life in this state from the radical right. A set of ideas which are transforming American life, which could be a harbinger of a politics to come. Something close to a theocracy in all but name. Welcome to this special episode of <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/6mVEcMPzgwh7cJwBPpczYp?si=65c1488b1d4648f3\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">The News Agents.<\/a>\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The podcast episode is well structured and is a piece that is far from neutral. But they do a good job of exempting the background, all the time revealing their own progressive biases:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cThe repeal of Roe was to become the holy grail of Christian conservatism, a litmus test for right-wing credentials. It would slowly consume and transform the Republican Party. It became one of the central axes of American politics, a dividing line between <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2020\/08\/jesus-was-not-a-republican-or-a-democrat\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Democrat and Republican<\/a>.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>One area where I agree with them is the rather deceptive role of some \u201cCrisis Pregnancy Centers\u201d. By all means offer something to help women feel able to proceed with their pregnancies and gives them support. But let\u2019s not lie for the sake of trying to prevent abortions from happening. \u00a0They explained:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cCrisis Pregnancy Centers, also known as fake abortion clinics, according to critics, or Pregnancy Resource Centers, are these often predatory facilities that are run by church groups or religious nonprofits that exist solely to convince pregnant people not to seek abortion care or to otherwise offer so-called alternatives to abortion. But they often pose as actual abortion clinics, and at least one-third of them in Florida, there\u2019s about 160 compared to 50 licensed abortion clinics. About a third of these fake clinics receive state taxpayer funds . . . And a couple of ways they do that is by using very sophisticated marketing tactics online. Or they will specifically choose locations that are nearby actual abortion clinics to confuse people. Or they will have terms in their name, in the name of the facility, like choice or choices, leading people to believe that if they go to this facility, they will actually be offered choices when that\u2019s not the case . . . it\u2019s important to mention too that these fake abortion clinics are not licensed by the state as medical facilities, which means they are not regulated as medical facilities in the state. They are not required to have licensed medical professionals on staff. Despite often offering services such as ultrasounds or pregnancy tests or STI testing. \u00a0So, you could be going into one of these facilities and getting an ultrasound from somebody who does not know how to actually properly handle that equipment. . . .I know this sounds unbelievable, incredible, but it is true. These centres\u2019 websites really do look as much as if they are offering medical services relating to pregnancy. They\u2019ll have names like Choices or Women\u2019s Centre and there are lots of people who say they\u2019ve been fooled by them and claim these organisations have tried to shame them, giving up their personal information, something which is denied by the organisations themselves.\u201d <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/gb\/podcast\/the-news-agents\/id1640878689?i=1000675378924&amp;r=681\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">The News Agents: SPECIAL REPORT: A war on women<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>Since when is it acceptable for Christians to do harm so that good may result?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Another disgraceful thing going on is these clinics often offer the so-called \u201cabortion pill reversal treatment\u201d to be taken if a woman regrets taking the first of two pills for medical abortion. \u00a0This is unproven, unlicensed, and known to be dangerous:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cThat means that the literal state is paying for these clinics to provide an untested, experimental, potentially dangerous treatment, which could result in harm or worse to women or children born with birth defects. Something that we\u2019ve been pretty disturbed by when looking into this is this situation that you have with these sort of what their opponents at least call sort of fake abortion clinics . . . So the state of Florida has empowered these extremists to lie to women, to share misinformation, and not just in the context of reproductive care, but also in the context of vaccines, in the context of LGBTQ plus identity. It has just become a cesspool of fanatics committed to spreading as many lies as they can to divide us, to distract us, and to make life harder for people in these situations. . . It\u2019s not just that it\u2019s bad speech and dangerous speech and leading to really risky health outcomes, but it\u2019s publicly backed. It\u2019s publicly endorsed. Many politicians serve on the boards of crisis pregnancy centers. So it\u2019s been embedded into our political system, and it\u2019s disgusting . . . It\u2019s truly disgusting. And the challenge is that we\u2019re dealing with a state that prides itself in spreading misinformation. As we\u2019re talking right now, the state of Florida has spent more than $17 million on anti-abortion television ads.\u201d <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/gb\/podcast\/the-news-agents\/id1640878689?i=1000675378924&amp;r=681\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">The News Agents: SPECIAL REPORT: A war on women<\/a>\u00a0\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>It is obvious that the journalists reporting on this issue live in a different world than many US Evangelical Christians, even as they tried to qualify their criticism it was clear how deep the divide was. And that divide is getting deeper in the USA as they come to vote tomorrow.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cAgain, it isn\u2019t that people are pro-life. That is a perfectly legitimate point of view. I respect it.<\/p>\n<p>We all respect it. But that is separate to what we\u2019re dealing with here. Because what we\u2019re dealing with here can only be described as a deeply misogynistic ideology, which has taken root among a minority of the US population with massive consequences for the majority.<\/p>\n<p>And that misogyny, that casual willingness to make women walking wombs, basically, with no regard for their will or their welfare, has become embedded in the organs of the state itself. It feels like an inquisition. It feels like a theocracy in a republic which was founded on liberty.<\/p>\n<p>And I didn\u2019t think that anything could make the election itself feel small. But somehow, though deeply connected to the election, this issue does. Because whoever wins, whatever happens, that thinking, that zealotry, that energy, for want of a better word, built over decades, that isn\u2019t going anywhere.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-43110 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/298\/2024\/10\/AdrianWarnockLandscape1200-300x225.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\"><\/p>\n<h2>More from Adrian Warnock<\/h2>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"JMsD9I9y5x\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2024\/11\/love-the-immigrant-this-is-the-way\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Love the Immigrant: This is the Way<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201cLove the Immigrant: This is the Way\u201d \u2014 Adrian Warnock\" src=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2024\/11\/love-the-immigrant-this-is-the-way\/embed\/#?secret=J5dFepcamV#?secret=JMsD9I9y5x\" data-secret=\"JMsD9I9y5x\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"M5depb0CCv\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2024\/11\/trump-vs-kamala-harris-roundup\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Trump vs Kamala Harris: Roundup<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201cTrump vs Kamala Harris: Roundup\u201d \u2014 Adrian Warnock\" src=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2024\/11\/trump-vs-kamala-harris-roundup\/embed\/#?secret=mZ5i81igW6#?secret=M5depb0CCv\" data-secret=\"M5depb0CCv\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"6Kxu4v1Q6Z\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2024\/11\/trumps-angry-rhetoric-vs-christian-values-its-not-normal\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Trump\u2019s Angry Rhetoric vs. Christian Values: It\u2019s not Normal<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201cTrump\u2019s Angry Rhetoric vs. Christian Values: It\u2019s not Normal\u201d \u2014 Adrian Warnock\" src=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2024\/11\/trumps-angry-rhetoric-vs-christian-values-its-not-normal\/embed\/#?secret=mCHusjDEVi#?secret=6Kxu4v1Q6Z\" data-secret=\"6Kxu4v1Q6Z\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"tcJmsAL5XP\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2024\/10\/how-to-deal-with-shame-accusations-and-condemnation\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">How to deal with shame, accusations, and condemnation<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"\u201cHow to deal with shame, accusations, and condemnation\u201d \u2014 Adrian Warnock\" src=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2024\/10\/how-to-deal-with-shame-accusations-and-condemnation\/embed\/#?secret=VsuIe22e2o#?secret=tcJmsAL5XP\" data-secret=\"tcJmsAL5XP\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"2bVFkbGRy2\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2024\/11\/are-you-weary-come-to-jesus-he-will-give-you-rest\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Are you Weary? 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In the USA Christians often vote on the single issue of who they think will advance the cause of banning abortion the most. \u00a0This is perhaps THE major reason why Trump won his first election. \u00a0Evangelicals believed he would appoint conservative judges to the Supreme Court and overturn Roe vs Wade in the process. \u00a0And, unlike any Republican president before him he did deliver on exactly that. \u00a0As a result he is seen by many as the champion of the Church, and they turn a blind eye to all the things about him that are very much against Christian values. \u00a0 However, whilst legal changes do have some affect on abortion rates, this is less than you might think due to travel. There is evidence that making social policy decisions may be even more important. \u00a0Whilst the data is debated (as is often the case) there is some support for the idea that under democratic presidents, who try to look after the poor, abortion rates have fallen faster than under republicans.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1268,"featured_media":43150,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[350,1005,422,996,1006,473],"class_list":["post-40967","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-abortion-2","tag-election","tag-forgiveness","tag-kamala-harris","tag-supreme-court","tag-trump"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Pro-Life Voting: Beyond Anti-Abortion, Protecting All Lives<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Single-issue abortion voting is outdated and pointless. \u00a0There are the other issues Christians should vote on. 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