listen to the sermon online<\/a>. \u00a0I thought I would just share a few bullet points:<\/p>\n\u201cThere are two things you do when someone is suffering: you hug a lot . . . you are just there . . . but you have to have a place to stand when you\u2019re hugging. If the ground falls away the hugging feels hollow . . . you need a solid strong rock-solid biblical ground.\u201d<\/p>\n
\u201cHow does the Apostle Paul help me suffer well?\u201d<\/p>\n
\u201cIf we suffer with him we will be glorified with him . . . The pathway to your glory is suffering\u201d<\/p>\n
\u201cGod gives us here some sense of why the world is the way it is.\u201d<\/p>\n
\u201cAll of your sufferings, including your death, are birth pangs.\u201d<\/p>\n
\u201cPray for God to heal Matt Chandler!\u201d<\/p>\n
\u201cWhen God undertakes to do a great thing, he breaks people.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"
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