{"id":805,"date":"2004-06-26T18:15:00","date_gmt":"2004-06-26T18:15:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/adrianwarnock.com\/2004\/06\/reformed-charismatics-do-exist\/"},"modified":"2018-07-06T10:49:52","modified_gmt":"2018-07-06T09:49:52","slug":"reformed-charismatics-do-exist","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2004\/06\/reformed-charismatics-do-exist\/","title":{"rendered":"Reformed charismatics do exist"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>Further proof that such a creature exists if you needed it could be found in the talk I listened to this morning by <a href=\"http:\/\/newfrontiers.xtn.org\/international-team\/category_index.php?id=5\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Terry Virgo<\/a> given at the recent Leaders conference in Brighton.  Sadly I missed the conference as I was looking after the children so my wife could go.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, his comments included the following which stood out to me\u2026.<\/p>\n<p>When speaking of Gods choice of specific people to be saved and have specific roles he made the point that whilst Golliath had said \u2018Choose a man for yourselves\u2019 God had said a few chapters before \u2018I have chosen a man for myself (David)\u2019<\/p>\n<p>People might say thats not fair, dont I have a free will.  Terry said <em>\u2018Yes but God\u2019s is freer!\u2019<\/em>  The concept of limits to the so-called free will of man is crucial for our sanity.  Believing in a sovereign God who can prevent certain things from happening and who \u2018Does whatever he chooses\u2019 is vital to preserve our sanity.<\/p>\n<p>So yes, I am a <a href=\"http:\/\/adrianwarnock.com\/2004\/05\/cessationism-and-charismaticism.htm\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">reformed charismatic<\/a> and there are many more out there\u2026..<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Further proof that such a creature exists if you needed it could be found in the talk I listened to this morning by Terry Virgo given at the recent Leaders conference in Brighton. Sadly I missed the conference as I was looking after the children so my wife could go. 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