{"id":187,"date":"2010-03-30T20:14:00","date_gmt":"2010-03-30T20:14:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/americanbuddhist\/2010\/03\/breakfast-with-buddha-geshe-thubten-phelgye\/"},"modified":"2010-03-30T20:14:00","modified_gmt":"2010-03-30T20:14:00","slug":"breakfast-with-buddha-geshe-thubten-phelgye","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/americanbuddhist\/2010\/03\/breakfast-with-buddha-geshe-thubten-phelgye.html","title":{"rendered":"Breakfast with Buddha: Geshe Thubten Phelgye"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<\/head>
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Names, left to right as well as I can remember them: <\/span>Georgia Milan <\/span><\/b>(<\/span>Ewam<\/span><\/a>), ?, <\/span>Rich Bishop<\/span><\/b> (Christ the King Church), <\/span>David Curtis<\/span><\/b> (<\/span>Tibetan Language Institute<\/span><\/a>), <\/span>Terry Jimmerson<\/span><\/b>, (Saint Anthony\u2019s Catholic Church), <\/span>Geshe Thubten Phelgye<\/span><\/b>, <\/span>Tom <\/span><\/b>(<\/span>Osel Shen Phen Ling<\/span><\/a>),\u00a0<\/span>Donna ?<\/span><\/b> (Catholic of Arlee and friend of <\/span>Ewam<\/span><\/a>), <\/span>Me, Amy Carter<\/span><\/b> (<\/span>University Congregational Church<\/span><\/a>), <\/span>\u00a0Jacquie and Ken Lyons <\/span><\/b>(Blackfeet Thunder pipe and Center for Spiritual Living), and <\/span>Peter Shobe<\/span><\/b>r (<\/span>University Congregational Church<\/span><\/a>)<\/span><\/div>\n
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Apparently that\u2019s the name of\u00a0a novel<\/a>\"\". It comes recommended from one a fellow guest at this morning\u2019s interfaith breakfast, hosted by Ewam<\/a> and Osel Shen Phen Ling<\/a>, organized by Georgia Milan, and inspired by Geshe\u00a0Thubten Phelgye, founder of H.H. the Dalai Lama\u2019s Universal Compassion Movement<\/a>.<\/p>\n

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In reading up on Geshe-la I was happy to find that my friend Danny Fisher<\/a> has a particular interest in him and his movement to bring vegetarianism to the Tibetan community in exile.Geshe Thubten Phelgye is one of the many wonderful Tibetan teachers pushing the envelope in Buddhism<\/a> and in the world. He openly says that Buddhism (like Christianity) has become watered down \u2013 yes, even in Tibet \u2013 and that we Westerners need to separate the good from the junk<\/b>.<\/div>\n
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When a woman asked him last night, \u201cwhat is the junk?\u201d He laughed and said he needs to be diplomatic! But something like meat eating can be junk. He gave the example of some Buddhists who say that pork, fish and eggs are the worst, but eating other meat is more okay. \u201cThere\u2019s no logic in that,\u201d he said.<\/b> In Tibetan culture pork is considered the heaviest karma, but only because there is the intention<\/i>\u00a0of the farmer, from the time the pig is just a piglet, to slaughter the animal.<\/div>\n
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But, he said, many Tibetans believe that if you are not killing the animal, then it\u2019s okay to eat meat. \u201cBut who drives the killing?\u201d he asked. \u201cWe do. The consumers.\u201d<\/div>\n
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He said that as early as 1984, as a junior monk at Sera Monastery in India, he began asking that they move away from eating meat. Some of his own teachers suggested he just drop the issue. But he\u00a0persevered\u00a0and in the early 90s had an audience with H.H. the Dalai Lama to discuss just that issue. In 1997, with the Dalai Lama\u2019s blessing, he founded the\u00a0<\/b>Universal Compassion Movement<\/b><\/a>.<\/b> Tonight he will lead Vipassana meditation at\u00a0Ewam<\/a>\u00a0and has events scheduled for the weekend (see below).<\/div>\n
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My great thanks to Georgia for inviting me to this breakfast. I definitely felt like a bug in a room of giants as I listened to the many stories of these great Missoula interfaith pioneers.<\/div>\n
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Tuesday \u2022 March 30 \u2022 7 pm<\/b><\/span><\/div>\n

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Vipassana Practice<\/b><\/div>\n
At Ewam \u2022 Coyote Road, Arlee<\/div>\n

Friday \u2022 April 2 \u2022 7 pm
Public Talk:\u00a0Universal Compassion Movement<\/i><\/b>
At St. Anthony\u2019s Catholic Church<\/a> (UPDATED) \u2022 217 Tremont St.
Suggested Donation $15Mind Transformation Workshop<\/b>
Saturday \u2022 April 3<\/b>\u00a0\u2022 9:30 am \u2013 4:00 pm
Vegetarian Pot Luck Lunch \u2022 Noon \u2013 1:00 pm
Sunday \u2022 April 4<\/b>\u00a0\u2022 9:30 am \u2013 Noon
Geshe-la will teach from the Eight Verses of Mind Transformation, will lead guided meditations on Avalokiteshvara, the Buddha of Great Compassion, and\u00a0tonglen<\/i>, the practice of giving and taking.
Suggested Donation $60<\/p><\/div>\n

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