{"id":218,"date":"2010-02-11T11:07:00","date_gmt":"2010-02-11T11:07:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/americanbuddhist\/2010\/02\/when-you-are-you-zen-is-zen\/"},"modified":"2010-02-11T11:07:00","modified_gmt":"2010-02-11T11:07:00","slug":"when-you-are-you-zen-is-zen","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/americanbuddhist\/2010\/02\/when-you-are-you-zen-is-zen.html","title":{"rendered":"When You are You, Zen is Zen"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><a href=\"https:\/\/upload.wikimedia.org\/wikipedia\/commons\/thumb\/c\/c6\/China_Sex_Museum_Porcelain_Vase.jpeg\/303px-China_Sex_Museum_Porcelain_Vase.jpeg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt;float: left;cursor: pointer;width: 127px;height: 250px\" src=\"https:\/\/upload.wikimedia.org\/wikipedia\/commons\/thumb\/c\/c6\/China_Sex_Museum_Porcelain_Vase.jpeg\/303px-China_Sex_Museum_Porcelain_Vase.jpeg\" alt=\"\" border=\"0\"><\/a><span style=\"font-style: italic\">Thoughts on Zen<\/span> <span style=\"font-style: italic\">from a Therav\u0101din perspective<\/span>*<\/p>\n<p>Students of Therav\u0101din <a href='https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/library\/buddhism' target='_blank'>Buddhism<\/a> will no doubt find such statements to be a bit peculiar. In Therav\u0101da, as well as most <a href='https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/library\/buddhism' target='_blank'>Tibetan Buddhism<\/a>, their is an emphasis on gradual personal\/moral\/spiritual development on the path to awakening. <span style=\"font-weight: bold\">Teachings of a gradual path are found throughout the P\u0101li Canon,<\/span> the preserved teachings of the Buddha from the Therav\u0101din tradition. Indeed the Buddha\u2019s own life, and numerous past lives, reflect this gradual perfection of virtues en route to <span style=\"font-style: italic\">nibb\u0101na<\/span>.<br><span style=\"font-weight: bold\"><br>However, over time in Buddhism there developed an idea of sudden awakening.<\/span> Whether this development was primarily made by philosophical-literary monks such as those who wrangled over the vast Abhidharma literature, or by so-called forest meditators, alone in deep practice, is unknown. In fact these divisions may themselves be false and unhelpful. <span style=\"font-weight: bold\">In either case, the basic idea behind <span style=\"font-style: italic\">sudden awakening<\/span> is that the mind is primordialy pure, only shrouded by later defilements<\/span>. This idea itself is found in the P\u0101li Canon (from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.accesstoinsight.org\/tipitaka\/an\/an01\/an01.049.than.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Accesstoinsight.org<\/a>):<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>\u201cLuminous, monks, is the mind.<a class=\"noteTag decorated-link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.accesstoinsight.org\/tipitaka\/an\/an01\/an01.049.than.html#n-1\" name=\"t-1\" id=\"t-1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">1<\/a> And it is defiled by incoming defilements.\u201d <span class=\"altID\">{I,v,9}<\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u201cLuminous, monks, is the mind. And it is freed from incoming defilements.\u201d <span class=\"altID\">{I,v,10}<\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u201cLuminous, monks, is the mind. And it is defiled by incoming defilements. The uninstructed run-of-the-mill person doesn\u2019t discern that as it actually is present, which is why I tell you that \u2014 for the uninstructed run-of-the-mill person \u2014 there is no development of the mind.\u201d <span class=\"altID\">{I,vi,1}<\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u201cLuminous, monks, is the mind. And it is freed from incoming defilements. The well-instructed disciple of the noble ones discerns that as it actually is present, which is why I tell you that \u2014 for the well-instructed disciple of the noble ones \u2014 there is development of the mind.\u201d <span class=\"altID\">{I,vi,2}<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><span class=\"altID\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p>And the P\u0101li (from AN i 5 and 6, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.tipitaka.org\/romn\/cscd\/s0401m.mul4.xml\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">here<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.tipitaka.org\/romn\/cscd\/s0401m.mul5.xml\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">here<\/a>):<br><span class=\"paranum\"><\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span class=\"paranum\">49<\/span>. \u2018\u2018Pabhassaramida\u1e43, bhikkhave, citta\u1e43. Ta\u00f1ca kho \u0101gantukehi upakkilesehi upakkili\u1e6d\u1e6dha\u2019\u2019nti. Navama\u1e43.  <\/p>\n<p class=\"bodytext\"><a name=\"para50\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><\/a><span class=\"paranum\">50<\/span>. \u2018\u2018Pabhassaramida\u1e43, bhikkhave, citta\u1e43. Ta\u00f1ca kho \u0101gantukehi upakkilesehi vippamutta\u2019\u2019nti. Dasama\u1e43.<\/p>\n<p class=\"bodytext\"><span class=\"paranum\">51<\/span>. \u2018\u2018Pabhassaramida\u1e43 <a name=\"V1.0013\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><\/a>, bhikkhave, citta\u1e43. Ta\u00f1ca kho \u0101gantukehi upakkilesehi upakkili\u1e6d\u1e6dha\u1e43. Ta\u1e43 assutav\u0101 puthujjano yath\u0101bh\u016bta\u1e43 nappaj\u0101n\u0101ti. Tasm\u0101 \u2018assutavato puthujjanassa cittabh\u0101van\u0101 natth\u012b\u2019ti vad\u0101m\u012b\u2019\u2019ti. Pa\u1e6dhama\u1e43.  <\/p>\n<p class=\"bodytext\"><a name=\"para52\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><\/a><span class=\"paranum\">52<\/span>. \u2018\u2018Pabhassaramida\u1e43 <a name=\"T1.0012\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><\/a>, bhikkhave, citta\u1e43. Ta\u00f1ca kho \u0101gantukehi upakkilesehi vippamutta\u1e43. Ta\u1e43 sutav\u0101 ariyas\u0101vako yath\u0101bh\u016bta\u1e43 paj\u0101n\u0101ti. Tasm\u0101 \u2018sutavato ariyas\u0101vakassa cittabh\u0101van\u0101 atth\u012b\u2019ti vad\u0101m\u012b\u2019\u2019ti.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"bodytext\">\n<\/p><p>No time now for linguistic analysis, but Thanissaro Bhikkhu\u2019s comments (see link above) on this statement are helpful for understanding it in the Ther\u0101vadin context. But in the developing Mah\u0101y\u0101na thought, this statement pointed to <span style=\"font-weight: bold\">a profound truth in the nature of the individual: that we all have within us an <a href=\"http:\/\/https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Tathagatagarbha_doctrine\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">essence of awakening<\/a>.<\/span> To realize this, not just intellectually but in one\u2019s whole being, would be <span style=\"font-style: italic\">awakening<\/span>.<\/p>\n<p>The statement: \u201cWhen you are you, Zen is Zen\u201d points to that original nature. <span style=\"font-weight: bold\">It points to the <\/span><span style=\"font-style: italic;font-weight: bold\">fact that<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: bold\"> no defilement is essential, none of your problems are <\/span><span style=\"font-style: italic;font-weight: bold\">yours<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: bold\"> or <\/span><span style=\"font-style: italic;font-weight: bold\">you<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: bold\">. <\/span>YOU are not an angry person or a jealous person or a depressed person. You are you.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.collectioncare.org\/treatm\/imageswv\/s1998_44_07_vase01u575.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px;float: right;cursor: pointer;width: 108px;height: 156px\" src=\"https:\/\/www.collectioncare.org\/treatm\/imageswv\/s1998_44_07_vase01u575.jpg\" alt=\"\" border=\"0\"><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: bold\">It\u2019s like taking a hammer to a beautiful porcelain vase.<\/span> Tap it and cracks begin to appear. Tap more and the whole thing begins to fall apart, pieces falling to the ground. The vase is the <span style=\"font-style: italic\">you<\/span> that has been constructed through a thousand-million thoughts and actions and words. Thinking, \u201cI am a depressed person\u201d and saying to others \u201cOh, I have depression\u201d and acting this out, we polish our vase of depression. This is not to minimize the reality, for us, of depression. <span style=\"font-weight: bold\">But it is only a reality <\/span><span style=\"font-style: italic;font-weight: bold\">for you<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: bold\"> because it has been constructed and maintained all this time.<\/span> It is not you.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.collectioncare.org\/treatm\/imageswv\/s1998_44_11_vase02u575.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px;float: right;cursor: pointer;width: 110px;height: 160px\" src=\"https:\/\/www.collectioncare.org\/treatm\/imageswv\/s1998_44_11_vase02u575.jpg\" alt=\"\" border=\"0\"><\/a>The statement, \u201cWhen you are you, Zen is Zen\u201d tries to stop another kind of vase-building, spiritual vase-building.  <span style=\"font-weight: bold\">When we enter on the path, it is easy to desperately <\/span><span style=\"font-style: italic;font-weight: bold\">want<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: bold\"> to get it right, to have profound realizations, to make progress. <\/span>We can strive and set goals, and strive toward them. As we do so, we may wonder, \u201cis this right? Is this \u2018Zen\u2019?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The answer is, \u201cNo. When you are you, Zen is Zen.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>We think we are the vase, this delicate collection of clay and mineral and colors and polish. Just like we think we are our possessions, our career, our family, our spirituality. <span style=\"font-weight: bold\">But this is all mere self-cherishing; the very activity that Buddhism seeks to undercut. And if your practice doesn\u2019t undercut it, reality will for you.<\/span> Possessions will fade, careers will be lost, people will die or slip out of touch. In self-cherishing we scramble to fill the hole, find new things and activities and people. And this can fill one\u2019s whole life: getting, losing, getting new, losing again. A life of reactivity.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.collectioncare.org\/treatm\/imageswv\/s1998_44_61_vase03u575.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px;float: right;cursor: pointer;width: 205px;height: 138px\" src=\"https:\/\/www.collectioncare.org\/treatm\/imageswv\/s1998_44_61_vase03u575.jpg\" alt=\"\" border=\"0\"><\/a>This life of scrambling is not only exhausting and unfulfilling, it cuts us off fundamentally from others and the world. We are so busy cramming everything into our gaps that we too rarely stop to look closely at who we are with, what we are doing. Look closely. Slow down. <span style=\"font-weight: bold\">It is only when you look fully that you are you and Zen is Zen. tap the vase. Watch it crack and crumble.<\/span> As the pieces of the vase fall to the ground, you see that you were not the vase all along. <span style=\"font-style: italic;font-weight: bold\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p>You <span style=\"font-weight: bold\">are the space that the vase occupied<\/span>: unfettered, unbounded, undefiled, free.<\/p>\n<p>As Dogen Zenji wrote in his <span style=\"font-style: italic\">Genjo Koan<\/span>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>To study the Buddha way is to study the self.<br>       To study the self is to forget the self.<br>       To forget the self is to be enlightened by the ten thousand dharmas.<br>       To be enlightened by the ten thousand dharmas is to free one\u2019s body and mind and those of others.<br>       No trace of enlightenment remains,and this no-trace continues endlessly.                        <\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-size:85%\">* The post is subtitled, <\/span><span style=\"font-style: italic;font-size:85%\">Thoughts on Zen<\/span><span style=\"font-size:85%\"> <\/span><span style=\"font-style: italic;font-size:85%\">from a Therav\u0101din perspective<\/span><span style=\"font-size:85%\">, but even \u201c<\/span><span style=\"font-style: italic;font-size:85%\">Therav\u0101din<\/span><span style=\"font-size:85%\">\u201d is of course a piece of that vase that one can cling to, polishing it with P\u0101li studies, Vipassan\u0101 meditation, and visits with this or that teacher. The quote, \u201cWhen You are You, Zen is Zen\u201d is from <\/span><span style=\"font-size:85%\">Shunryu Suzuki Roshi<\/span><span style=\"font-size:85%\">, quoted in a wonderful talk by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.audiodharma.org\/talks\/EdwardBrown.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Edward Brown on Facets of Self<\/a>.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size:85%\">** broken vase images from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.collectioncare.org\/treatm\/treatmwv.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/www.collectioncare.org\/treatm\/treatmwv.html<\/a> (ironically a company that repairs and restores broken vases)<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"blogger-post-footer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/tracker\/7907151-5179351098756682907?l=americanbuddhist.blogspot.com\" alt=\"\"><\/div>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Thoughts on Zen from a Therav\u0101din perspective* Students of Therav\u0101din Buddhism will no doubt find such statements to be a bit peculiar. 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