{"id":808,"date":"2005-11-06T20:39:00","date_gmt":"2005-11-06T20:39:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/americanbuddhist\/2005\/11\/philosophy-1-of-3-ken-wilber\/"},"modified":"2005-11-06T20:39:00","modified_gmt":"2005-11-06T20:39:00","slug":"philosophy-1-of-3-ken-wilber","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/americanbuddhist\/2005\/11\/philosophy-1-of-3-ken-wilber.html","title":{"rendered":"Philosophy: (1 of 3) Ken Wilber"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>So I\u2019m reading Ken Wilber now (thanks to Zen Unbound\u2019s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/comment.g?blogID=7907151&amp;postID=113096275239779510\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">comments<\/a>); more \u2018<a href=\"http:\/\/www.formlessmountain.com\/audio1\/audio.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">listening to him<\/a>\u2018 actually, I have <a href=\"http:\/\/search.store.yahoo.com\/cgi-bin\/nsearch?follow-pro=1&amp;vwcatalog=soundstruestore&amp;catalog=soundstruestore&amp;query=Kosmic%20Consciousness&amp;go.x=29&amp;go.y=10&amp;.autodone=http:\/\/store.yahoo.com\/soundstruestore\/nsearch.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Kosmic Consciousness<\/a> on  audio, along with <a href=\"http:\/\/search.store.yahoo.com\/cgi-bin\/nsearch?follow-pro=1&amp;vwcatalog=soundstruestore&amp;catalog=soundstruestore&amp;query=A%20Brief%20History%20of%20Everything&amp;go.x=25&amp;go.y=6&amp;.autodone=http:\/\/store.yahoo.com\/soundstruestore\/nsearch.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">A Brief History of Everything<\/a>, which I tried to get into a while back but got distracted.<\/p>\n<p>I also read \u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/www.integralworld.net\/WilbErrs.htm\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">A Way out for Wilberians<\/a>\u201d by John Heron, a critical examination of his life\u2019s work today.  I didn\u2019t find it too convincing, to be honest.  Quotes like, \u201cBuddhists throw the distinct baby out with the separated bathwater\u201d tend to show a low level of understanding of such doctrines as no-self (<span style=\"font-style: italic\">anatta, anatman<\/span>).  A good criticism must display competence in the subject being criticized. (hopefully I can take my own advice here!  I find myself critical at times \u2013 but try to make clear my level of knowledge when doing so)<\/p>\n<p>Heron also makes logical leaps such as this (attempting to discredit Wilber\u2019s theory of evolution): \u201cWilber picks out one ancient sage after another, each of whom was the <i>first<\/i> explorer of some high spiritual stage (1983: 241-60).  This means they did it all alone, without one whit of necessary co-evolvement,  of agency-in-communion, of inseparable interaction.\u201d  No\u2026 to be the <span style=\"font-style: italic\">first<\/span> explorer of some particular spiritual stage requires standing on the shoulders of those who have come before you.  Heron\u2019s cite from Wilber doesn\u2019t support his assertion.<\/p>\n<p>Heron\u2019s criticisms seem to come from a particular stage in Wilber\u2019s schemata, where relative truths are admitted, but absolute Truth is still looked at a bit scornfully (a stage I suppose we all move through, see my next post).  But, from what little I have absorbed of Wilber\u2019s thought (maybe 1%!), he seems to anticipate this entirely.  In the end, Heron\u2019s criticism made me more interested in Wilber\u2019s work (sometimes your best supporter is an attempted critic). <\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s not to say that I\u2019m a wholesale proponent of Wilber (it would be pretty sad if I were after such a brief introduction to his thought).  I agree with some of Heron\u2019s implicit assertions in the beginning of his work: that sometimes a mind (such as Wilber\u2019s) attracts uncritical sycophants.  Buddhist teachers have the same problem, summed up by the ironic comment: \u201cI am pointing toward the Truth, but all you do is stare at my finger.\u201d  However, in the audio I\u2019ve heard thus far, Ken Wilber has made it clear that he is \u2018storytelling\u2019 or \u2018mapmaking\u2019, not revealing absolute truth (as something for us to grab and hold forever as our own).<\/p>\n<div class=\"blogger-post-footer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/tracker\/7907151-113131231353443183?l=americanbuddhist.blogspot.com\" alt=\"\"><\/div>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>So I\u2019m reading Ken Wilber now (thanks to Zen Unbound\u2019s comments); more \u2018listening to him\u2018 actually, I have Kosmic Consciousness on audio, along with A Brief History of Everything, which I tried to get into a while back but got distracted. I also read \u201cA Way out for Wilberians\u201d by John Heron, a critical examination [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":118,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-808","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Philosophy: (1 of 3) Ken Wilber<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"So I&#039;m reading Ken Wilber now (thanks to Zen Unbound&#039;s comments); more &#039;listening to him&#039; actually, I have Kosmic Consciousness on audio, along with A\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/americanbuddhist\/2005\/11\/philosophy-1-of-3-ken-wilber.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Philosophy: (1 of 3) Ken Wilber\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"So I&#039;m reading Ken Wilber now (thanks to Zen Unbound&#039;s comments); 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