{"id":652831,"date":"2014-06-16T07:32:10","date_gmt":"2014-06-16T07:32:10","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/andygill\/?p=652831"},"modified":"2016-04-09T09:58:11","modified_gmt":"2016-04-09T14:58:11","slug":"is-being-gay-a-sin","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/andygill\/is-being-gay-a-sin\/","title":{"rendered":"Is Being Gay a Sin? | 4 Things to Consider Before You Answer"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p style=\"text-align: left;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/604\/2014\/06\/SEPARATION-OF-CHURCH-AND-HATE-BENJAMIN-COREY-e1460065801208.png\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-655005\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-655005 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/604\/2014\/06\/SEPARATION-OF-CHURCH-AND-HATE-BENJAMIN-COREY-e1460065801208.png\" alt=\"Is Being Gay a Sin? Patheos BENJAMIN COREY Andy Gill\" width=\"550\" height=\"299\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Is Being Gay a Sin? | 4 Things to Consider Before You Answer: <strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/formerlyfundie\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\"><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Guest Post from Ben Corey<\/span><\/a><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Please consider that regardless of whether you\u2019re able to fully accept this or not, there are gay Christians.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/formerlyfundie\/yes-gay-christians-exist-a-sincere-plea-to-my-conservative-friends\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\">Like I\u2019ve said before<\/a><\/strong>, perhaps your theology on the issue might not ever change or evolve, but please know, these are real people you\u2019re talking about. This isn\u2019t just a \u201cconcept\u201d or an inanimate object\u2013 these are real live Christian brothers and sisters that deserve every bit of love and empathy as anyone else. Maybe you haven\u2019t counseled the teenager in your church who wants to kill themselves because they\u2019re finally realizing that they\u2019re gay and always have been. Maybe you haven\u2019t had a friend weep in your presence over the fact that they realize they are gay, but also realize they did not chose to be\u2013 and that they\u2019ll never be accepted by the tribe. Maybe you haven\u2019t had a chance to serve in church for years on end next to someone who you never realized was in fact, gay the whole time and also unwavering in their love for Jesus and commitment to the church.<\/p>\n<p>These things have happened to me, but I get that maybe you\u2019ve never experienced them. So please, just consider that we are not talking about an \u201cissue\u201d here\u2013 we\u2019re talking about real people. People created in the image and likeness of God. People with feelings, passions, hopes, and dreams. When we allow this to simply become an \u201cissue\u201d within modern Christian discourse, we end up dehumanizing the very real people we\u2019re actually referencing.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Please become willing to reexamine what the Bible teaches on homosexuality.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The apostle <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblegateway.com\/passage\/?search=Acts+17%3A10-15&amp;version=ESV\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Paul taught that the church at Berea was \u201cmore noble\u201d than other churches because they didn\u2019t blindly believe what he taught<\/a><\/strong>, but instead studied the scriptures for an answer. Would you be willing to do what the church at Berea did, and reexamine what is, or may not be, in scripture? Remember- when looking at scripture there are all sorts of things to consider, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/formerlyfundie\/how-to-completely-misuse-the-bible-in-5-easy-steps\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\"><strong>such as historical context, the original language<\/strong>,<\/a> etc. While such exegesis is encouraged in many other theological areas (such as women covering their heads) it\u2019s not often encouraged on this issue. I would invite you to reexamine these passages and consider the same factors we consider when interpreting or applying any other part of scripture.<\/p>\n<p>If you\u2019re willing to do this, Matthew Vines has a great new book with does exactly that\u2013 God and the Gay Christian\u2013 and I would strongly urge you to read it. Matthew is a conservative evangelical who writes from a conservative evangelical perspective, and does an outstanding job at showing that there is a very legitimate, alternate understanding of some of these texts. When considering any issue, it is important to take into account and give an honest ear to all sides of an issue. Rarely has a conservative evangelical done what Vines has done, and I would strongly encourage you to read it, and consider the arguments he makes as you formulate your own opinion on what the Bible does, or does not, teach on the issue.<\/p>\n<p>Even if you don\u2019t agree with Matthew in the end, his book will help you to realize that many people affirm monogamous, same sex marriage without discarding the Bible. I know to some of you that might sound crazy, which is really why you should read the book\u2013 from one conservative evangelical to another. I think what Matt has done is huge: at a minimum, he has helped to show there is an alternative biblical understanding which should firmly place this issue into the category of \u201csecondary theology\u201d where Christian charity should leave room for disagreement without declaring who is in, and who is out.<\/p>\n<p>Please consider that we treat our gay brothers and sisters differently than everyone else, and even if you\u2019re right\u2013 this behavior is wrong.<\/p>\n<p>Let\u2019s say your theology doesn\u2019t change and that you even turn out to be correct in that homosexuality is a sin. Still, you face a cultural issue that one should find appalling\u2013 the fact that we\u2019ve basically forced gay Christians to go out and get their own churches instead of being welcomed at ours.<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/reknew.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"> Greg Boyd<\/span> <\/a><\/strong>shows the absurdity of what we\u2019ve done in his book, <strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0801065062\/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0801065062&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=andygillorg-20\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Repenting of Religion<\/span><\/a><\/span><\/strong> (one of my favorites\u2013 and will provoke you in good ways. Greg once said that he lost 1000 members of his church when he wrote it). In the book, Greg points out that America has an obesity epidemic and that much of the time, the obesity is caused by gluttony (over eating)\u2013 which is a sin. Furthermore, we know that over-eating is also greed (taking more than what you need), which the Bible calls idol worship (<strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblegateway.com\/passage\/?search=Col+3%3A5&amp;version=ESV\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Col 3:5<\/span><\/a><\/span><\/strong>, <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.biblegateway.com\/passage\/?search=Eph+5%3A5&amp;version=ESV\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Eph 5:5<\/a><\/strong>). Boyd\u2019s question then becomes (as does mine): if we make gay Christians go out and get their own churches, why are we not forcing people who are obese due to over eating to go out and get their own churches as well? Obviously, we\u2019d never dream of such a thing\u2013 the sin of over eating is culturally acceptable, so we ignore the teachings of scripture on it most of the time. On a more practical level, as Boyd points out, we know the reasons why a person may over eat are complex, personal, and unknown to us\u2013 which means that only God can judge them, since God is the only one who understands the whole picture.<\/p>\n<p>Therefore, even if homosexuality is a sin, following this line of thinking, we should be using the same standard that we use with people who are obese from over eating: love them, include them, and refrain from judging them. The fact that we have created an entire, separate way of viewing and treating our gay brothers and sisters, is nothing short of corporate sin.<\/p>\n<p>We\u2019d rarely- if ever- treat these people the way LGBTQ people get treated, and that should be a deeply concerning realization. The fact that one group, and only one group, has been effectively marginalized from the church (you know, that thing that\u2019s supposed to represent Jesus here on earth) should cause us tremendous sorrow.<\/p>\n<p><strong> Please consider that even if you\u2019re right, it shouldn\u2019t dramatically change the praxis of your faith.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Tuesday I was with my friend and fellow author, <strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.frankschaeffer.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Frank Schaeffer<\/span><\/a><\/span><\/strong> and he was telling me a story about his parents. They were theologically conservative on the issue of homosexuality, but as Frank describes, were \u201cglorious hypocrites\u201d because they were so loving to their gay friends in their day to day living. Ultimately, I think the correctness of a theological opinion is somewhat irrelevant in comparison to personal behavior\u2013 a truth Jesus taught in Matthew 25. Consider all sides and still think it\u2019s a sin? Have at it\u2013 but please consider being a glorious hypocrite on the issue, as we are on so many others, by choosing radical love for other people instead of planting your flag in the rightness of correct belief.<\/p>\n<p>Even I have publicly admitted that I still struggle with the entire theology around this\u2013 struggling with theology is okay. However, as I have also stated publicly, wherever I land will be irrelevant to the praxis of my faith, just as it was for Frank\u2019s parents. I will still radically love people. I will still radically include people. I will still invite everyone to join me in following Jesus\u2026 and I will still refrain from judgement, because I\u2019m not God and I don\u2019t have all of the information to make righteous judgements about others.<\/p>\n<p>There\u2019s no reason why this issue should change the praxis of your faith, either. We\u2019re all just trying to follow Jesus, and we should be so focused on our own issues that we lack the time to focus on the perceived issues of others.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Please consider that the cultural obsession with homosexuality within the American Church is detracting from the things Jesus asked us to do.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Later today I\u2019ll be releasing an interview I shot Tuesday with Frank Schaeffer regarding his new book, <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/search\/ref=as_li_qf_sp_sr_il_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;index=aps&amp;keywords=Why%20I%E2%80%99m%20An%20Atheist%20Who%20Believes%20In%20God&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=andygillorg-20\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Why I\u2019m An Atheist Who Believes In God<\/a><\/strong>. In the book, he writes that \u201cJesus was a traitor to the culture wars of his day\u201d, because the message Jesus came to bring didn\u2019t line up with the battles the current culture wanted to fight. The same is true today\u2013 it is American Christian culture who has placed this issue at the front and center and convinced much of the culture that this is \u201cthe\u201d war worth fighting. Meanwhile, in the past two years I\u2019ve met with rescued slaves in India, orphans in Africa, seen kids in third world countries drink water that could easily kill them, and watched the homeless trot off into the streets during a New England blizzard. There are real, pressing issues we could devote our time to\u2013 but the whole anti-gay battle? That\u2019s a distraction from the real issues facing our world\u2013 issues we can actually impact if we don\u2019t get caught up into fabricated culture wars. So, please consider being like Jesus\u2013 be a traitor to the culture wars of today, and focus on the issues that really matter.<\/p>\n<p>\/\/\/<\/p>\n<p>As I said, I believe this to be an issue that should be kept to secondary theology that still allows for Christian unity and that regardless of where our theology lands, it should not impact the praxis of our faith. I understand this is a hard issue for many of you to wrestle with, and this post isn\u2019t one where I\u2019m trying to provoke you or get in your face\u2013 I just humbly ask, that you please consider these few things\u2026 and see what might change within your own heart.<\/p>\n<p>[<strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/formerlyfundie\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\"><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Ben Corey\u2019s<\/span><\/a><\/span><\/strong>\u00a0book \u201c<strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0768488907\/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0768488907&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=andygillorg-20\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">Undiluted: Rediscovering the Radical Message of Jesus<\/span><\/a><\/span><\/strong>\u201d is out and available for purchase over on amazon!\u00a0You can order it <strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0768488907\/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0768488907&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=andygillorg-20\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">here<\/span><\/a><\/span><\/strong>!]<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div class=\"fb-page\" data data-tabs=\"false\" data-width=\"850\" data-height=\"290\" data-small-header=\"false\" data-adapt-container-width=\"true\" data-hide-cover=\"false\" data-show-facepile=\"true\">\n<div class=\"fb-xfbml-parse-ignore\">\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/itsandygill\/\">\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Is Being Gay a Sin? | 4 Things to Consider Before You Answer: Guest Post from Ben Corey Please consider that regardless of whether you\u2019re able to fully accept this or not, there are gay Christians. 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