{"id":655130,"date":"2016-05-16T07:11:29","date_gmt":"2016-05-16T12:11:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/andygill\/?p=655130"},"modified":"2016-05-16T20:43:19","modified_gmt":"2016-05-17T01:43:19","slug":"john-piper-joins-the-blacklivesmatter-movement","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/andygill\/john-piper-joins-the-blacklivesmatter-movement\/","title":{"rendered":"John Piper Joins the #BlackLivesMatter movement!?"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/604\/2016\/05\/john-piper-BLACKLIVESMATTER-patheos-andy-gill-.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-655138\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-655138\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/604\/2016\/05\/john-piper-BLACKLIVESMATTER-patheos-andy-gill-.jpg\" alt=\"john piper BLACKLIVESMATTER patheos andy gill\" width=\"629\" height=\"394\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I mean, not really, but kind of\u2026<\/p>\n<p>Piper\u2019s\u00a0opening is predictably cringeworthy, but his conclusion is surprisingly refreshing.<\/p>\n<p>The better question: Is this something in which nonwhite evangelicals should be happy about? Is it a step forward, and can it be utilized by progressive Christians as a means to bridge the gap between our conservative brothers and sisters?<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cAnd as I was watching all of this happen, I wondered what to think about it, what to say about it, and I googled and found: There is a website called blacklivesmatter.com. And I read it and, oh my goodness, it was awful. I mean, I didn\u2019t like it, because it featured three women who claimed to be the founders of Black Lives Matter \u2014 Alicia Garza, Opal Tometti, Patrice Colors \u2014 and they self-identified as \u201cqueer black women.\u201d And in big, bold banners on their HerStory, not history, HerStory page, they say that they are queer-affirming and transgender-affirming. Well, this did not excite me, as, of course, it wouldn\u2019t most of my Christian black brothers and sisters. And I was so surprised, I tweeted this link so that people could be aware of these roots.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>But, he goes on to seemingly embrace the underlying theme of what I feel movements such as the blacklivesmatter movement, but not limited to, have forever been striving after, intersectionality.<\/p>\n<p>He admits to \u201cblowing it\u201d in the past, having his eyes opened \u201cthe sorrows of the black community here in the Twin Cities\u201d going on to say, \u201cthat I would have never felt without this friendship. And then goes so far as to hit the nail right on the head in regards to why saying \u201cAll lives matter\u201d can be insensitive.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201c\u2026before we say anything like, \u201cAll lives matter,\u201d before we say that, we need to pause. Because if you quickly add that, it sounds like a rebuke. It sounds like a minimizing of what was just said. It sounds like the point that was trying to be made isn\u2019t worth being made. So you don\u2019t want to make that point. You don\u2019t want to say that. So you learn that pretty quickly in that conversation if you added, \u201cAll lives matter.\u201d Of course that is true, all lives matter, but oh how timing matters and how context matters.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I don\u2019t think this means we should jump on the Piper train, join his former church, and all become conservatives. He\u2019s said a lot of outlandish things, and continues to profess ironically bigoted statements (as seen above), but I am happy to see the progression made, and the inkling of humility in which he\u2019s shown [at least, in this podcast of his] to his own racial failures. John Piper, in comparison, to his evangelical counterparts is a progressive [on this issue of race]; it\u2019s unfortunate, but still a step forward.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/andygill\/progressive-is-the-new-evangelical\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\">Where culture\u00a0<em>is<\/em>\u00a0progression goes ahead<em>\u00a0of<\/em>.\u00a0[<em>Progressive is the New Evangelical<\/em>]<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>If there\u2019s one thing I\u2019ve learned in this confrontation of injustice and the pursuit of future justice, it\u2019s\u00a0that in order to sustain, our movements need positive consistent upward trajectories. They can\u2019t all be about deconstruction; <strong>positive neural interaction\u00a0<\/strong>(PNI)\u00a0is an absolute necessity for future success [or in anything, for this matter].<\/p>\n<p>Just think, several years ago homosexuality was outlawed; today, we\u2019re seeing inclusivity of the LGBTQ community quickly becoming the status quo. This says to me, <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><em>anything<\/em> is possible<\/span>; including a racial reconciliation allowing no future need for movements such as these, but equal treatment of all despite, race, color, sexuality, or gender.<\/p>\n<p>You can download and\/or listen to John Piper address the question,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.desiringgod.org\/interviews\/what-can-we-learn-from-black-lives-matter\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cWhat Can We Learn from \u2018Black Lives\u00a0Matter\u2019?<\/a> on his most recent podcast, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.desiringgod.org\/interviews\/what-can-we-learn-from-black-lives-matter\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div class=\"fb-page\" data data-tabs=\"false\" data-width=\"750\" data-height=\"290\" data-small-header=\"false\" data-adapt-container-width=\"true\" data-hide-cover=\"false\" data-show-facepile=\"true\">\n<div class=\"fb-xfbml-parse-ignore\">\n<blockquote cite=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/itsandygill\/\">\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I mean, not really, but kind of\u2026 Piper\u2019s\u00a0opening is predictably cringeworthy, but his conclusion is surprisingly refreshing. 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