{"id":237,"date":"2011-10-10T13:54:23","date_gmt":"2011-10-10T17:54:23","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/badcatholic\/?p=237"},"modified":"2011-10-11T12:30:37","modified_gmt":"2011-10-11T16:30:37","slug":"the-atheists-self-help-blog-or-how-to-save-an-ideology-while-getting-girls-to-like-you-part-ii-being-practice-what-ye-preacheth","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/badcatholic\/2011\/10\/the-atheists-self-help-blog-or-how-to-save-an-ideology-while-getting-girls-to-like-you-part-ii-being-practice-what-ye-preacheth.html","title":{"rendered":"The Atheist&#8217;s Self Help Blog or How To Save an Ideology While Getting Girls To Like You! Part II Being &#8211; Practice What Ye Preacheth"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><strong>I<\/strong>ts an assumption we might as well take for fact, that if one were to see a man preaching his foolproof method of avoiding alcoholism while proceeding to get entirely trashed, one would assume something wrong with the method, and certainly something wrong with the man. That much would be an easy reaction. The exceedingly difficult \u2013 if not impossible \u2013 reaction would be to ignore the incongruity of the drunken man, and to follow his method of abstinence. (Actually, it\u2019s just plain difficult to follow any method of abstinence, but you see my point.)<\/p>\n<p>Perhaps you are only drowsy, not drunk, or perhaps you are simply ill-represented. But Atheism \u2013 dear Atheism \u2013 the world cannot help but see you in the position of this drunk puritan, or the priest with a mistress, or the vegan, granola-crunching hipster who smokes menthols. \u00a0It\u2019s the incongruities that are killing your street creds.<\/p>\n<figure style=\"width: 452px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/1081102454kaiwencreativejourney.files.wordpress.com\/2010\/03\/food.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"452\" height=\"351\"><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">And it's just not fair to people listening...<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>For instance, you\u2019ve taken the noble and true stance of laughing at Creationists. (This \u2013 to some extent \u2013 is a national past-time that atheists and Catholics can get down with.) \u201cWhat narrow interpretation of the Bible! What\u00a0embarrassingly\u00a0literal reading of a text that is clearly in the style of poetry and story!\u201d you cry, and the world nods with you. In this you shine, truly standing against ignorance and idiocy. Indeed, I believe you must recognize this, given that such a large portion of your literature, memes, advertising, jokes, and general culture seem focused on this debate that is not a debate.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/skepticalcubefarm.files.wordpress.com\/2011\/08\/creationismposter.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"400\" height=\"500\"><\/p>\n<p>It is awkward then, that when you\u2019ve finished saying \u201cI can\u2019t believe you think the world is 6000 years old because it\u2019s in the Bible,\u201d you turn and, often in the same breath, say, \u201cLook how awful your God is! It\u2019s right there in the Bible!\u201d You want to have your cake, and eat Catholics too. But the inconsistency isn\u2019t helping you. If you want to mock some one for not taking into account the obvious poetic context of the Creation Stories, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/badcatholic\/2011\/09\/god-hates-gays\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">you cannot then ignore the obvious historical context of the Old Law. <\/a>Well you can, but then you\u2019ve given any one who can comprehend an \u2018if\u2026then\u2026\u2019 statement free reign to mock you. Which I can.<\/p>\n<p>Mockmockmockmockmock.<\/p>\n<p>Likewise, and\u00a0similarly, and excellently, atheism is in the habit of calling out Christians who make stupid, emotional or stupidly emotional appeals for the existence of God. Observe the girl \u2013 OK, I\u2019m sorry, I\u2019m sorry, that\u2019s sexist \u2013 observe the guy who makes a YouTube video explaining, \u201cGod is real, I can prove this because I was praying the other day and I felt his love.\u201d Or the tract that reads \u201cThe Bible is true because the Bible is the Word of God\u201d, or the preacher who confronts you and cries, \u201cHow can you not believe in God? Look! Right here in Romans it says\u2026\u201d Or the lady who claims to know God exists because He answers her prayers.<\/p>\n<p>Atheism does the world a great service when they kindly mention to these folks that such things are within the realms of personal experience and pre-conceived conception, and do not hold weight in a logical debate. It\u2019s especially helpful to the Catholic, because later, when the <a href='https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/library\/pentecostal' target='_blank'>Pentecostal<\/a> we\u2019re arguing with wants to say, \u201cBut God hasn\u2019t told me that contraception is bad!\u201d they might think of your lightly ironic comment on their YouTube video, and be staid.<\/p>\n<p>Given that, this is really awkward. To quote my friend who shared this video with me \u201cNow I know it\u2019ll be hard to sit through the whole thing because you might already be on the ground laughing but the last 45 seconds are the best.\u201d<\/p>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=ObKwa9T6Om4\">http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=ObKwa9T6Om4<\/a>\n<p>Now the non-existence of God seems to me to be of minor concern when compared to the non-existence of that gentleman\u2019s forehead. But seriously, how is that atheism manages to say, \u201cJust because you believe that God is real because you\u2019ve seen his goodness doesn\u2019t mean he\u2019s real,\u201d and then turn and cry, \u201cIn my experience religion brings nothing but badness and evil, how could there be a God?\u201d To clarify: if the subjective experience of good\/love\/peace is no logical argument for God, then the subjective experience of bad\/hatred\/discord cannot be used as an argument against God. Atheism and I, we are watching a beggar. Christian Number 1 walks by and gives him everything he owns. Christian Number Two walks by and kicks him in the face. Is there a God? What a ridiculous question. Arguments in this\u00a0similarily incongruous vein include\u00a0\u201cGod doesn\u2019t answer my prayers, therefore God doesn\u2019t exist,\u201d and \u201cI believe that war is wrong, God has been the cause of many wars, therefore your God is evil.\u201d I have no problem with the making of these arguments, but it follows that if you do, you cannot begrudge the Christian who tells you \u201cGod answers my prayers, therefore God exists.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Now these are the minor, argumentative incongruities that discredit atheism. Easily fixed, by the radical act of not using them. The real interesting ones are the major contradictions. The atheist who denies objective morality and lives a shockingly moral life, the materialist who falls in love and gets married, the Darwinist who donates to charities, the moral relativist who gets angry when you punch him in the face, the relativist who tells you what he\u2019s saying is true, or Christopher Hitchens, on a large metal tube with wings, being flown by a pilot he doesn\u2019t know to a conference where he will tell the crowd that \u201cfaith is a kind of disease.\u201d But you\u2019ve all heard these absurdities. So, until next time.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Its an assumption we might as well take for fact, that if one were to see a man preaching his foolproof method of avoiding alcoholism while proceeding to get entirely trashed, one would assume something wrong with the method, and certainly something wrong with the man. That much would be an easy reaction. 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