{"id":58,"date":"2011-06-10T12:57:00","date_gmt":"2011-06-10T12:57:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/badcatholic\/2011\/06\/the-desperation-of-the-atheists\/"},"modified":"2011-11-17T09:49:08","modified_gmt":"2011-11-17T14:49:08","slug":"the-desperation-of-the-atheists","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/badcatholic\/2011\/06\/the-desperation-of-the-atheists.html","title":{"rendered":"The Desperation of the Atheists"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><span style=\"color: #660000; font-family: 'Courier New', Courier, monospace; font-size: x-large;\">I<\/span> guess I never realized it, but our non-believing folk are quite excited about the idea of disproving the existence of God. Apparently, it will halt mankind from waging war, smoking, and feeling awkward about gay sex, while simultaneously leading to a brotherhood amongst men via increased time spent on the Holy Internet. But honestly \u2013 though these goals send shivers of warmth down my typing fingers \u2013 I would venture that the atheist is almost <em>too<\/em> excited, in that every new discovery \u2013 or old discovery given a new name \u2013 becomes the All in All, the Explanation for Religious Thought, The Lamb of Science Who Taketh Away the Ignorance of the World, and so on, and thus forth, until I can scarcely think of new ways to make fun of such\u00a0presumptuous\u00a0over-eagerness. This was made rather\u00a0embarrassingly\u00a0apparent throughout the\u00a020th century,\u00a0which witnessed rather brilliant physicists making very dumb claims about the\u00a0origin of the universe, while evidence for the Big Bang simply sat and laughed at them.\u00a0The reason we have science fiction\u00a0on infinite universes, multiverses,\u00a0infinite cycles of Bang and Crunch, Father\/Child Universes, etc.\u00a0etc.\u00a0is because every time a scientist thought that they had gotten around that pesky\u00a0Big Bang they \u2013 instead of checking whether their theories had any bearing on reality, or\u00a0any evidence to back them \u2013 they wrote really cool\u00a0books, which later became subject matter only tolerable by Douglas Adams \u2013 God rest his soul. Ah, but those were noble, heady days. Now we endure this:<\/p>\n<p>(Original Video Removed by BBC)<\/p>\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Dr. Persinger&#039;s God Helmet\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/8YPOTaUyvA0?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<p>For those who would rather avoid ten minutes of unbelievably pretentious camera work, desperate attempts at evoking pathos, and that British Female Presenter voice that so inspires trust, here\u2019s the gist: Scientist finds that electromagnetic waves can make you feel like someone is behind you. Calls this effect the Unseen Presence. Says to self, hey! Religious people are always yapping about a presence, therefore \u201cmost, if not ALL religious and spiritual experience can be explained away\u201d by electromagnetism.<\/p>\n<p>OK. Now I\u2019ll rebut all that crap, although it seems unnecessary. These folks \u2013 dear\u00a0Brights \u2013\u00a0have clearly never had a \u2018religious experience\u2019, and also don\u2019t seem to know what one is. It\u2019s not a long period of nervous fear and clammy hands followed by the feeling that some one is behind you, as described in the video. It\u2019s being loved. But even if it were true, that God manifested himself to human beings by standing behind them and freaking them out, the massive leap of logic made to say \u201call religious experience is caused by electromagnetism\u201d is laughably desperate. Because it only takes one exception to disprove a rule,\u00a0and thus\u00a0that scientist\u2019s authoritative statement can be dismissed with evidence of ONE religious experience, before electricity, when the northern lights weren\u2019t shining. Why would he back himself into a hole like that? (Answer: he\u2019s stupid.)\u00a0Besides, his leap of logic denies that most \u2018religious experience\u2019 is <em>intentional<\/em>. I go to my room, I pray, I feel God\u2019s love. If what le scientist said was true, I should feel God\u2019s love by merely walking into my room, for it is near a telephone wire, or electromagnetic clock. That, or somebody is outside with a well timed electromagnet. My point is that \u2013 if religious experience is the result of random electromagnetic bursts \u2013 why isn\u2019t religious experience random? Why is it intentional?<\/p>\n<p>\ufeff<\/p>\n<table class=\"tr-caption-container\" style=\"float: left; margin-right: 1em; text-align: left;\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.thatreligiousstudieswebsite.com\/images_trsw\/Introduction\/saul_conversion.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thatreligiousstudieswebsite.com\/images_trsw\/Introduction\/saul_conversion.jpg\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\" width=\"323px\" height=\"400px\"><\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"tr-caption\" style=\"text-align: center;\">As we all know, Paul\u2019s experience was largely the<br>\nresult of his mother being a babe.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>\ufeff<\/p>\n<div style=\"border: medium none;\">But the real question, or at least the real observation, is that for all their stoic poises, the new atheist can\u2019t seem to follow his own advice, to view everything skeptically, to loyally follow the scientific method without any leaps or assumptions. Thus religious experience has been Completely Explained Away! by electromagnetism, mob psychology, psychoanalysis, hypnosis, hallucination,\u00a0suppressed sexual urges, wish-fulfillment, dopamine, serotonin, (and any other chemicals in the brain), evolutionary\u00a0brain developments, the LACK of evolutionary brain\u00a0developments, the Oedipus Complex, ancient, ingrained rituals of human sacrifice, hysteria, peer pressure, hormones, plain old delusion and goodness knows what else, each explanation \u2013 from Freud\u2019s description of Eucharist as an outlet for ancient cannibal ritual to the God Helmet \u2013 expressed with all the weight of shattering fact, the confidence that <em>this time<\/em>, this time the world will know that they are fooled, they will buy our books, and religion will perish.<\/div>\n<p>In fact, these \u2018discoveries\u2019 do exactly the opposite. (If you are an atheist, listen! I\u2019m giving you secret, inside\u00a0information; it will help you defeat us and be free of our iron grip on the public square!) As each new \u2018Now We Know!\u2019 shudders by and fades off into the distance, the Christian \u2013 at first alarmed by such vicious and desperate attacks on his Creed \u2013 is comforted. For when a thing is attacked at every angle, for reasons as contradicting as they are multitudinous, the thing is most likely true, and dangerously so. If anything, it is certainly not so ridiculously implausible that it does not merit the attack in the first place. Hitchens may think religion the most idiotic thing in the world, but he certainly spends a lot of time and effort revealing that. Dawkins may see it an obvious truth that there is no Creator, but his various speaking tours seem to indicate that it\u2019s not so obvious after all. No, a thing is attacked because it is formidable. The Christian\u00a0may be\u00a0sure that Christ is worth believing in because of the immense effort atheists take in proving he is not.<\/p>\n<p>Notice that there is no widespread and daring intellectual offensive against the palm-reading industry, nor any brilliant psychologist struggling to show the world that popular, wiccan\u00a0witches are really just exploring suppressed sexual desire. (Thought Experiment: Search \u2018God\u2019 and then\u00a0\u2018Palm Reading\u2019\u00a0on\u00a0Google. Compare results.)\u00a0Astrology, though\u00a0it holds as much\u00a0\u2013 if not\u00a0more\u00a0\u2013 sway over Americans\u00a0as religion manages to, has no thorn in its side, no atheist attacking it devotedly,\u00a0except perhaps\u00a0in passing, mentioning it in sentences like, \u201cLike astrology, Christianity is based on wish-fulfillment with no evidence.\u201d And why not? Because no one strikes children. Men strike at that dangerous to them. If it is not true, it is certainly near enough to truth to fight with desperation, for men will grab whatever weapon is nearest to batter God away, even if it is a weapon as weak as Freud\u2019s Future of an Illusion, or as ridiculous as the God Helmet, while the things they really know to be myths they, for the large part, leave alone.<\/p>\n<p>Now then, were I an atheist, I would avoid claiming my most recent discovery or\u00a0 really-good-idea-I-just-had as the explaination for EVERYTHING CHRISTIANS EVER THOUGHT! OMG!!! and instead attempt the \u2013 remarkably easy \u2013 task of uniting all the arguments into one. I imagine an essay entitled; It Could Be Just About\u00a0Anything; But It Isn\u2019t God. It\u2019d have to be beautiful and flowing, the more arguments the greater chance of explaining every \u2018religious experience\u2019 ever recorded, something in the\u00a0vein of 100 Authors Against Einstein, in which Einstein was\u00a0berated for being wrong from just about every line of reasoning one can be wrong in. His response, unfortunately, will be the Christian\u2019s: \u201cIf I was wrong\u201d said Einstein, \u201cone would be enough.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Much peace, love and prayer directed at all readers!<\/p>\n<div class=\"blogger-post-footer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/tracker\/3060433030054060305-4908913368536151180?l=badcatholicblog.blogspot.com\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\"><\/div>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I guess I never realized it, but our non-believing folk are quite excited about the idea of disproving the existence of God. Apparently, it will halt mankind from waging war, smoking, and feeling awkward about gay sex, while simultaneously leading to a brotherhood amongst men via increased time spent on the Holy Internet. But honestly [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":121,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[43],"tags":[3],"class_list":["post-58","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-atheism-2","tag-atheism"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>The Desperation of the Atheists<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"I guess I never realized it, but our non-believing folk are quite excited about the idea of disproving the existence of God. Apparently, it will halt\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/badcatholic\/2011\/06\/the-desperation-of-the-atheists.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"The Desperation of the Atheists\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"I guess I never realized it, but our non-believing folk are quite excited about the idea of disproving the existence of God. Apparently, it will halt\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/badcatholic\/2011\/06\/the-desperation-of-the-atheists.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"Bad Catholic\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:published_time\" content=\"2011-06-10T12:57:00+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:modified_time\" content=\"2011-11-17T14:49:08+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:image\" content=\"http:\/\/www.thatreligiousstudieswebsite.com\/images_trsw\/Introduction\/saul_conversion.jpg\" \/>\n<meta name=\"author\" content=\"Marc\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:label1\" content=\"Written by\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data1\" content=\"Marc\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:label2\" content=\"Est. reading time\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data2\" content=\"6 minutes\" \/>\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"yoast-schema-graph\">{\"@context\":\"https:\/\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"WebPage\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/badcatholic\/2011\/06\/the-desperation-of-the-atheists.html\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/badcatholic\/2011\/06\/the-desperation-of-the-atheists.html\",\"name\":\"The Desperation of the Atheists\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/badcatholic\/#website\"},\"datePublished\":\"2011-06-10T12:57:00+00:00\",\"dateModified\":\"2011-11-17T14:49:08+00:00\",\"author\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/badcatholic\/#\/schema\/person\/f128368f53f1348bf999033c303eb91e\"},\"description\":\"I guess I never realized it, but our non-believing folk are quite excited about the idea of disproving the existence of God. Apparently, it will halt\",\"breadcrumb\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/badcatholic\/2011\/06\/the-desperation-of-the-atheists.html#breadcrumb\"},\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"ReadAction\",\"target\":[\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/badcatholic\/2011\/06\/the-desperation-of-the-atheists.html\"]}]},{\"@type\":\"BreadcrumbList\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/badcatholic\/2011\/06\/the-desperation-of-the-atheists.html#breadcrumb\",\"itemListElement\":[{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":1,\"name\":\"Home\",\"item\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/badcatholic\"},{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":2,\"name\":\"The Desperation of the Atheists\"}]},{\"@type\":\"WebSite\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/badcatholic\/#website\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/badcatholic\/\",\"name\":\"Bad Catholic\",\"description\":\"\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"SearchAction\",\"target\":{\"@type\":\"EntryPoint\",\"urlTemplate\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/badcatholic\/?s={search_term_string}\"},\"query-input\":\"required name=search_term_string\"}],\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\"},{\"@type\":\"Person\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/badcatholic\/#\/schema\/person\/f128368f53f1348bf999033c303eb91e\",\"name\":\"Marc\",\"image\":{\"@type\":\"ImageObject\",\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/badcatholic\/#\/schema\/person\/image\/\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/0759b01c148657f84b6604ecb198d8fd?s=96&d=mm&r=g\",\"contentUrl\":\"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/0759b01c148657f84b6604ecb198d8fd?s=96&d=mm&r=g\",\"caption\":\"Marc\"},\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/badcatholic\/author\/marcbarnes\"}]}<\/script>\n<!-- \/ Yoast SEO plugin. -->","yoast_head_json":{"title":"The Desperation of the Atheists","description":"I guess I never realized it, but our non-believing folk are quite excited about the idea of disproving the existence of God. Apparently, it will halt","robots":{"index":"index","follow":"follow","max-snippet":"max-snippet:-1","max-image-preview":"max-image-preview:large","max-video-preview":"max-video-preview:-1"},"canonical":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/badcatholic\/2011\/06\/the-desperation-of-the-atheists.html","og_locale":"en_US","og_type":"article","og_title":"The Desperation of the Atheists","og_description":"I guess I never realized it, but our non-believing folk are quite excited about the idea of disproving the existence of God. Apparently, it will halt","og_url":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/badcatholic\/2011\/06\/the-desperation-of-the-atheists.html","og_site_name":"Bad Catholic","article_published_time":"2011-06-10T12:57:00+00:00","article_modified_time":"2011-11-17T14:49:08+00:00","og_image":[{"url":"http:\/\/www.thatreligiousstudieswebsite.com\/images_trsw\/Introduction\/saul_conversion.jpg"}],"author":"Marc","twitter_card":"summary_large_image","twitter_misc":{"Written by":"Marc","Est. reading time":"6 minutes"},"schema":{"@context":"https:\/\/schema.org","@graph":[{"@type":"WebPage","@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/badcatholic\/2011\/06\/the-desperation-of-the-atheists.html","url":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/badcatholic\/2011\/06\/the-desperation-of-the-atheists.html","name":"The Desperation of the Atheists","isPartOf":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/badcatholic\/#website"},"datePublished":"2011-06-10T12:57:00+00:00","dateModified":"2011-11-17T14:49:08+00:00","author":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/badcatholic\/#\/schema\/person\/f128368f53f1348bf999033c303eb91e"},"description":"I guess I never realized it, but our non-believing folk are quite excited about the idea of disproving the existence of God. Apparently, it will halt","breadcrumb":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/badcatholic\/2011\/06\/the-desperation-of-the-atheists.html#breadcrumb"},"inLanguage":"en-US","potentialAction":[{"@type":"ReadAction","target":["https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/badcatholic\/2011\/06\/the-desperation-of-the-atheists.html"]}]},{"@type":"BreadcrumbList","@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/badcatholic\/2011\/06\/the-desperation-of-the-atheists.html#breadcrumb","itemListElement":[{"@type":"ListItem","position":1,"name":"Home","item":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/badcatholic"},{"@type":"ListItem","position":2,"name":"The Desperation of the Atheists"}]},{"@type":"WebSite","@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/badcatholic\/#website","url":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/badcatholic\/","name":"Bad Catholic","description":"","potentialAction":[{"@type":"SearchAction","target":{"@type":"EntryPoint","urlTemplate":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/badcatholic\/?s={search_term_string}"},"query-input":"required name=search_term_string"}],"inLanguage":"en-US"},{"@type":"Person","@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/badcatholic\/#\/schema\/person\/f128368f53f1348bf999033c303eb91e","name":"Marc","image":{"@type":"ImageObject","inLanguage":"en-US","@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/badcatholic\/#\/schema\/person\/image\/","url":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/0759b01c148657f84b6604ecb198d8fd?s=96&d=mm&r=g","contentUrl":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/0759b01c148657f84b6604ecb198d8fd?s=96&d=mm&r=g","caption":"Marc"},"url":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/badcatholic\/author\/marcbarnes"}]}},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/badcatholic\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/58","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/badcatholic\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/badcatholic\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/badcatholic\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/121"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/badcatholic\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=58"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/badcatholic\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/58\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/badcatholic\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=58"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/badcatholic\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=58"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/badcatholic\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=58"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}