{"id":77,"date":"2011-04-01T12:08:00","date_gmt":"2011-04-01T12:08:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/badcatholic\/2011\/04\/because-the-church-is-too-powerful\/"},"modified":"2011-11-17T09:54:50","modified_gmt":"2011-11-17T14:54:50","slug":"because-the-church-is-too-powerful","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/badcatholic\/2011\/04\/because-the-church-is-too-powerful.html","title":{"rendered":"Because the Church Is Too Powerful"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><span style=\"line-height: 18px;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif;\">The second issue for me is the institution\u2026 the Catholic church\u2026 it had and still has too much power.. and it\u2019s authority is justified through the divine, a source of power which is really unchecked\u2026 And now if the church used it\u2019s power to do good things in the world.. I could ignore that.. but that\u2019s not the case.. And now you\u2019ll tell me that the church helps plenty and donates to charity and whatnot\u2026 but does that excuse all the other bad deeds the Catholic church has done? Can\u2019t we have a charitable organization that only does charitable things? So my problem with the church is that it has too much unchecked power.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/t1.gstatic.com\/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRP1ryoB8XsdMm_7UiywSHwj25ne-HhMY1u5E0N8d7yKqGdc_0ieg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft\" style=\"border: 0px initial initial;\" src=\"https:\/\/t1.gstatic.com\/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRP1ryoB8XsdMm_7UiywSHwj25ne-HhMY1u5E0N8d7yKqGdc_0ieg\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\" width=\"197\" height=\"256\"><\/a><span style=\"color: #660000; font-family: 'Courier New', Courier, monospace; font-size: x-large;\">T<\/span>he truth of the matter is that \u2013 and please don\u2019t stone me in the marketplace \u2013 Ambre is right. The Church has way too much unchecked power. Thousands of sensible people were screaming \u201cNo, are you insane?!\u201d when Christ said to Peter \u201cYou are Rock, and upon this rock I will build my church.\u201d I was probably one of them. You\u2019re giving that power to man? Man who has consistently and constantly spent his time screwing up? Man who cheats, lies, steals, commits\u00a0adultery, fornication, worships false gods, writes awfully long books promoting atheism, watches porn, drinks too much, ignores the poor, kills his brother, invents blogging, and all the rest? <em>He<\/em> is to have the power to forgive sins, the power to bind and loose, the power speak the absolute Truth? \u201cYes!\u201d says Christ, and then flies off into the sky with a \u201cgood luck!\u201d<\/p>\n<p>And so here we are. The largest single institution in the world. And hey \u2013 surprise, surprise \u2013 the men and women within it haven\u2019t improved since Peter. But what is the Catholic Church? Is it the collection of these priests and bishops and popes? No, that\u2019s simply the Church\u00a0hierarchy. Is it them plus the people? Well yes, in one sense, that The Church is made up of all it\u2019s members. But it must be remembered that \u2013 as in all institutions \u2013 a single member, or a group of members is not the institution. That\u2019s why we don\u2019t say that the American government is evil when Nixon turns out to be a cheat. Or why we don\u2019t stop flying when one guy falls asleep at his control tower. Or why Muslims say, \u201cIslam is not\u00a0truly\u00a0represented by extremism.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>So one equally cannot say, \u201cLook at this Pope who had three wives and invaded Portugal! The Catholic Church does bad things!\u201d There\u2019s no logic there.<\/p>\n<div><span style=\"font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;\">Where are we left then? Well, if you really wanted to call the American government evil \u2013 not the current people governing, the actual American Government \u2013 you would look not to individuals, but to the Constitution. And there you would see one of two things. That the Constitution itself was evil. That would settle it; if the doctrines of the government are evil, the very\u00a0principles\u00a0by which it operates, then the government is evil. If there\u2019s a kill-orphans clause\u2026well, there\u2019s a kill orphans clause. Or alternatively you could see that the Constitution was good, but has been changed. There is a kill-orphans <\/span><em style=\"font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;\">amendment<\/em><span style=\"font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;\">. <\/span><\/div>\n<p>So when the statement is made that \u201cthe Catholic Church does bad things,\u201d the only possible way this can be true is if the doctrines of the Church are bad. If one member of the Church kills a bunch of orphans in the name of Jesus, one can only say \u201cthe Catholic Church does bad things\u201d if it is a doctrine she teaches; that you can kill orphans in the name of Jesus. It isn\u2019t.<\/p>\n<div><span style=\"font-size: 16px; line-height: 24px;\">And the fantastic thing is, despite having scumbag popes, secular takeovers of the Vatican, and all in all remaining a sinful people, not a single teaching of the Catholic Church has changed. This is especially incredible when you realize that many of these secular takeovers (killing the pope and replacing him with a king or prince or priest loyal to some monarch) were carried out with the express purpose of changing the doctrines of the Church, usually that pesky \u201cdon\u2019t get divorced\u201d one. (Though not so incredible for Catholics; we know our Church is guided by God, and thus no human power could change a teaching of the Church.)<\/span><\/div>\n<p>I don\u2019t know what \u201cbad things the Catholic Church\u201d did that Ambre refers to, and chances are they\u2019re the Crusades \u2013 which I think were a fantastic thing. But the end point is this: say the Catholic Church is bad and evil because it preaches the doctrine of original sin, because it says that you shouldn\u2019t commit\u00a0adultery, because it says that marriages are sacraments, fine. But don\u2019t say the Catholic Church does bad things because you read about a pope having a mistress, or having people tortured. All that says is that Catholics are bad, and trust me, we are already aware.<\/p>\n<p>I guess I didn\u2019t answer the \u201ctoo much power\u201d thing. But perhaps I did, given that power is only a problem if its\u2019s being used for evil. There are people who abuse the power the Church has, but that is the fault of the person, not the Church. You would burn down the forest for fear of the weeds, for the power of the Church lies in her teachings.<\/p>\n<div class=\"blogger-post-footer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/tracker\/3060433030054060305-3245053043080230393?l=badcatholicblog.blogspot.com\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\"><\/div>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The second issue for me is the institution\u2026 the Catholic church\u2026 it had and still has too much power.. and it\u2019s authority is justified through the divine, a source of power which is really unchecked\u2026 And now if the church used it\u2019s power to do good things in the world.. 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