{"id":673,"date":"2015-01-16T09:00:35","date_gmt":"2015-01-16T17:00:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/betweentheshadows\/?p=673"},"modified":"2018-03-07T11:17:44","modified_gmt":"2018-03-07T19:17:44","slug":"apples-and-orangutans-traditional-witchcraft-vs-wicca","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/betweentheshadows\/2015\/01\/apples-and-orangutans-traditional-witchcraft-vs-wicca\/","title":{"rendered":"Apples and Orangutans: Traditional Witchcraft vs. Wicca"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<\/head>

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I read quite a lot about\u00a0witchcraft. \u00a0Just about everything I can find, just about any time I can find it. \u00a0I\u2019ve always been fascinated with the Art and the Craft. \u00a0One thing I\u2019ve been reading an awful lot recently in the blogosphere is how much better traditional witchcraft is than Wicca<\/a>.<\/p>\n

In general, it seems that many of those who style themselves traditional witches (that I have read; so perhaps I\u2019ve just been unfortunate in the links<\/a> I have found) make a lot of assumptions about Wicca and then state how they are different and why that makes them superior. \u00a0For example, some\u00a0say that\u00a0traditional witches are consistent in their worship and that \u201cWiccans worship their Gods in a typically Wiccan manner with no regard to their original culture or religion.\u201d \u00a0I have seen it claimed that Wicca is \u201cfluffy\u201d in its limiting and \u201cillogical\u201d ethical belief in harming none, and that \u201cwhat you do shall be returned to you threefold.\u201d \u00a0Some say that British Traditional Wiccans are \u201cconservative\u201d and that Eclectic or Progressive Wiccans \u201cvary in strictness but are generally more inflexible in almost every aspect of practice than BTW covens\u201d (so I guess they haven\u2019t met the same Eclectic Wiccans that I have; but I digress.) \u00a0One even said that British Traditional Witches have no right to say that they are British traditional witches, because the \u201ctraditional witches\u201d are the (Real One True) British traditional witches.<\/p>\n

These websites have quite a lot of nasty things to say about Gerald Gardner in particular, saying that he founded his religion in order to pursue his \u201cnudist and voyeuristic tendencies\u201d and \u201cfemale domination fetishes.\u201d \u00a0Their many broad generalizations about Wicca and Wiccans make me gnash my teeth in annoyance; which\u00a0(aside from reasonable irritation with the tendency of a vocal minority of BTW witches who seem to think they have some claim of superiority due to lineage) represent, at best, a fundamental misunderstanding of some central concepts of Wiccan faith; and at worst, deliberate misrepresentation. \u00a0I could take each of them to task in a list here with arguments and defensiveness, but that\u2019s really not my point.<\/p>\n

In the spirit of trying not to define a spiritual path by what it is not<\/a>, and trying instead to find out what it is<\/em>, I made a great effort to research traditional witchcraft. \u00a0I have read many\u00a0of the books that Jason Mankey mentioned in his recent article<\/a>\u00a0(despite his objections to my Wikipedia references in my recent article.<\/a>)\u00a0 I have been reading website after website in my effort to understand the specifics. \u00a0What are\u00a0the spiritual practices of traditional craft? \u00a0What are\u00a0its elements of faith? \u00a0And I learned\u00a0that as far as I can tell,\u00a0there are none.<\/p>\n

Traditional witchcraft is a folkloric magical practice (never magick<\/em> with a K, that\u2019s pretentious and would admit some kind of association with Aleister Crowley, who is icky like Gardner) based in European folk traditions and honouring European agricultural and seasonal cycles. \u00a0It involves a certain degree of animism and respect for nature, but traditional witches can be of many different faiths. \u00a0Often they regard themselves as shamans, animists, pantheists, panentheists, polytheists, and occasionally Christians or even Satanists, as the Horned God is equated frequently with the Devil in folklore<\/a>. \u00a0Those who descend from the work of the Clan of Tubal Cain often incorporate elements of The White Goddess<\/a> into spiritual practice, as Robert Cochrane did. \u00a0Some claim to be (and some are) witches as part of a family tradition. \u00a0Its practices are similar to those of folk magic practitioners of other cultures, with a strong grounding in sympathetic magic.<\/p>\n

So why are we comparing the two at all? \u00a0It seems to me that they are entirely different things, and comparing them isn\u2019t even like comparing apples and oranges; it\u2019s like comparing apples and . . . orangutans.<\/p>\n

It\u2019s something that\u2019s beginning to stick in my craw. \u00a0This is, it seems to me, just an extension of the \u201cmy lineage is bigger\/more legitimate\/older than your lineage\u201d nonsense. \u00a0This sort of argument is a straw man fallacy<\/a>. \u00a0First, the \u201ctraditional witch\u201d sets up an effigy of what they believe Wicca to be; then they show why it\u2019s \u201cbad\u201d and tear it down, so that their witchcraft \u201clooks better.\u201d<\/p>\n

I suppose that some of this comes from a distressing tendency of some vocal BTW sorts, especially in the online community of the 90s, to claim a \u201ctrademark\u201d on the word \u201cwitch.\u201d \u00a0A valid argument of traditional witches that I do<\/em> support is in saying that going to Sabbat circles eight times a year does not make you a witch; practicing magic does. \u00a0\u201cWitch\u201d is a calling and a job description. \u00a0Yes, I agree.<\/a>\u00a0 But practicing magic does not require you to have any faith in particular; or even to have a faith at all.<\/p>\n

I was doing witchcraft before I even knew that it had a name. \u00a0I know some people claim they were taught in a hereditary tradition that goes back to the dawn of ancient history; I\u2019m not claiming that, but I was changing the weather, seeing the future, and burning candles to influence Fate when I was ten. \u00a0I was doing kitchen witchery at twelve. \u00a0When I was fourteen, I was dealing with ghosts, spirits and the Otherworld in a manner that others would now recognize as hedgewitchery. \u00a0So I guess I\u2019ve always been a \u201ctraditional witch.\u201d<\/p>\n

It wasn\u2019t until I was in my late teens and early twenties that I became a Wiccan. \u00a0I met some people through the Society for\u00a0Creative Anachronism<\/a>; these were the first other Pagans I knew. \u00a0I was told some very negative things about Wicca at first and figured it wasn\u2019t for me. \u00a0I thought of myself as a shaman or perhaps a Druid, or maybe a ritual magician. \u00a0I don\u2019t think I came around to the idea completely until about the turn of the millennium, when I realized that Wicca was a religion, with a consistent mythology and code of behaviour,<\/em> and that I believed<\/em> in this mythology and this code of behaviour.<\/p>\n

Traditional witchcraft is not<\/em> a specific religion, and there is no formal code of behaviour. \u00a0Most traditional witches seem\u00a0very clear<\/em> on these two points. \u00a0Many\u00a0are clear in their belief that \u201cfluffy Wiccans\u201d limit themselves with the encumbrance of their ethics and their eclectic mythology. \u00a0They often see themselves as living on the edge of society, unbound by deities or oaths.<\/p>\n

To this I say: fly; be free! \u00a0I think this is a perfectly legitimate path and I certainly don\u2019t hold it against you if you choose it! \u00a0Traditional witchcraft is in my blood and my bones too. \u00a0It is as natural as breathing to one who is called to it. \u00a0Folk magic is strong and powerful and often quite beautiful in a raw, organic way.<\/p>\n

If you want to say \u201cI practice traditional witchcraft, and we\u2019re often confused with Wiccans but it\u2019s not the same thing;\u201d hey, that\u2019s great, and I have no problems with that whatsoever. \u00a0But please stop trying to define my faith for me in order to differentiate your path! \u00a0Surely there must be something that defines traditional witchcraft in its own right as a worthy practice, or it would not have such a following.<\/p>\n

I am a traditional witch . . . and<\/em> I am a Wiccan. \u00a0The two are not mutually exclusive because they\u2019re not even remotely the same thing.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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