{"id":35517,"date":"2020-03-29T01:24:23","date_gmt":"2020-03-29T05:24:23","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/bibleandculture\/?p=35517"},"modified":"2020-03-07T06:26:14","modified_gmt":"2020-03-07T11:26:14","slug":"the-message-of-love-part-twenty-eight-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/bibleandculture\/2020\/03\/29\/the-message-of-love-part-twenty-eight-2\/","title":{"rendered":"The Message of Love&#8211; Part Twenty Eight"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/55\/2020\/02\/41M2zbSu-tL._SX317_BO1204203200_.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/55\/2020\/02\/41M2zbSu-tL._SX317_BO1204203200_.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"319\" height=\"499\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-35291\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>BEN:  We are called to love self-sacrificially, as Christ loved. That seems a very high standard indeed which we can only approximate at times.  But it does make clear that Christ expects a lot of us. \u2018To whom more is given\u2026.\u2019.   I have grown tired of the mistranslation of the famous verse in Philippians which actually reads \u2018I am able\u2026\u2026 all things in Him who strengthens me\u2019. It seems clearly, in light of Paul just saying he has learned contentment in good times and bad, with and without material well being that the appropriate way to read that verse is not \u2018I can DO all things\u2026\u2019 but rather \u2018I am able to endure with contentment all things\u2026 etc.   Comments??<\/p>\n<p>PATRICK: Yes, in John\u2019s Gospel disciples are commanded to love one another as Jesus has loved them. Indeed loving one another is the only duty that is commanded in the whole Gospel. What that means is spelt out \u2013 Jesus lays down his life for his friends. This is love orientated to the good of others at cost to the self. It\u2019s the very heart of Christianity. Of course all of this is much easier to understand in theory than do in practice! In the book I quote Francis Moloney, \u2018Words about love can come easily enough; lives that demonstrate love are harder to come by.\u2019 I happen to be married to someone who lives such a life but I agree with you that it\u2019s a tough calling. It\u2019s a long way from the sort of na\u00efve positive thinking that you mention. I fail to be loving every day to the people I like, let alone to the ones I don\u2019t! This is why life in Christian community is where the rubber really hits the road. Love hangs in there. It\u2019s open-eyed about human failure \u2013 including our own. It seeks forgiveness and reconciliation. It\u2019s honest. Churches are made up of all sorts of people and love is the only thing that\u2019s going to hold it together if it\u2019s going to flourish and grow. Perhaps it\u2019s only such authentic communities of love that are going to make an impact on a (often rightly) sKeptical world.  <\/p>\n<p>BEN:  Thanks so much Patrick for taking part in this dialogue I think it will definitely benefit our readers. <\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>BEN: We are called to love self-sacrificially, as Christ loved. That seems a very high standard indeed which we can only approximate at times. But it does make clear that Christ expects a lot of us. \u2018To whom more is given\u2026.\u2019. 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