{"id":57438,"date":"2023-07-06T01:48:47","date_gmt":"2023-07-06T05:48:47","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/bibleandculture\/?p=57438"},"modified":"2023-06-11T07:52:57","modified_gmt":"2023-06-11T11:52:57","slug":"clifton-blacks-marks-gospel-the-dialogue-part-six","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/bibleandculture\/2023\/07\/06\/clifton-blacks-marks-gospel-the-dialogue-part-six\/","title":{"rendered":"Clifton Black&#8217;s Mark&#8217;s Gospel&#8211; The Dialogue Part Six"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/55\/2023\/05\/91ZZRM05B6L.jpeg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-57084\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/55\/2023\/05\/91ZZRM05B6L.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"424\" height=\"640\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Q.\u00a0 I was a bit surprised that there was not more emphasis on the Son of Man material in Mark, especially since it seems so clearly grounded in Dan. 7.13-14, and all the more so since the Gospel has an apocalyptic tone, and a direct citation of that text at the trial in Mk. 14. What I mean by this is the figure \u2018one like a son of man\u2019 is both a human and also yet a divine figure who will bring the Kingdom that will never end (compared to the four beastly ones previously mentioned in Daniel) and will rule it forever, and receive worship.\u00a0 I would actually argue that that text is the key to understanding Jesus\u2019s own self-understanding. Daniel 7 is the only text in the OT that mentions both Kingdom and Son of Man in the same breath, and not just any Kingdom but God\u2019s Kingdom where God\u2019s rule will prevail.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 What\u2019s wrong with this analysis in your view?<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>CCB: There may be nothing wrong with it. The kingdom of God, instantiated by Jesus and ultimately undefeatable, is a hallmark of this Gospel, indeed of all the Synoptics. While noticeably reticent to identify himself by any title and oblique when doing so, Mark\u2019s Jesus identifies himself as \u201cSon of Man\u201d far more frequently than as \u201cChrist\u201d (9:41; in 14:62 by another\u2019s statement) or as \u201cthe Son\u201d (13:32; allusively in 12:6). The feature I find most striking in Mark are its varying connotations of \u201cSon of Man\u201d: as a human authority who forgives sins (2:10) and is Lord over the sabbath (2:28), as an apocalyptic figure who will return in glory with God-given power (8:38; 13:26\u201327; 14:62), and as one who must suffer, die and be vindicated (8:31; 9:9, 12, 31;10:33\u201334; 10:45; 14:21, 41). While these three nuances are mutually interpretive, the third group of sayings outnumbers the first and second by a ratio of three or four to one. What sets apart the Markan Son of Man is this emphasis on his suffering, especially a death with redemptive consequence (10:45; 14:24). There is nothing comparable to this in the Dead Sea Scrolls or other Jewish apocalyptic texts. That stress, in turn, is an index to the peculiar quality of God\u2019s kingdom, as presented in Mark.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Q.\u00a0 I was a bit surprised that there was not more emphasis on the Son of Man material in Mark, especially since it seems so clearly grounded in Dan. 7.13-14, and all the more so since the Gospel has an apocalyptic tone, and a direct citation of that text at the trial in Mk. 14. 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