{"id":73,"date":"2013-11-13T22:12:21","date_gmt":"2013-11-14T02:12:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/billykangas\/?p=73"},"modified":"2013-11-13T23:31:37","modified_gmt":"2013-11-14T03:31:37","slug":"divine-echoes-within","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/billykangas\/2013\/11\/divine-echoes-within.html","title":{"rendered":"Divine echoes within"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/394\/2013\/11\/Dualism.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-74\" title=\"Dualism\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/394\/2013\/11\/Dualism.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"320\" height=\"257\"><\/a>When atheists question my faith I am often at a lack for words. How does one explain knowing God apart from knowing God?\u00a0I can\u2019t point to the sciences to justify my faith, for God, by definition, falls outside of what the scientific method is able to perceive. I believe the Bible, but I know it is far from a convincing historical document on it\u2019s own.\u00a0How can I communicate my faith? It is something only I know as a love within. Only my own existential interiority can testify to the God I know, who is closer and dearer to me than my very breath, but is utterly invisible to natural science and empirical evaluation.<\/p>\n<p>I recently came across this passage from a book by John Henry Newman called Callista. It tells the story of a girl in the ancient Roman empire who slowly comes to faith in Christ. In it she encounters a philosopher with a view of God that says he is merely an external self existing \u201csomething,\u201d but the girl doesn\u2019t buy it. She says:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>\u201cI feel myself in His presence. He says to me, \u2018Do this; don\u2019t do that\u2019 \u2026 it is the echo of a person speaking to me \u2026 I believe in what is more than a mere \u2018something.\u2019 I believe in what is more real to me than sun, moon, stars, and the fair earth, and the voice of friends. You will say, Who is He? Has He ever told you anything about Himself? Alas! no! \u2013 the more\u2019s the pity. But I will not up what I have, because give I have not more. An echo implies a voice; a voice a speaker. That speaker I love and I fear.\u201d <\/em><br>\n<em>(Callista, 314-315)<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I love this. In many ways it gives words to my own experience. The testimony of Callista speaks the truth in my heart and witnesses to me that I am not alone. I know that God echoes in all of us, through whispers in the heart and convictions of the will.<\/p>\n<p>When I read the words of Christ and participate in the sacraments I recognize the author of the divine echoes within me, and see the form that has cast all the shadows of hope and beauty throughout my life.<\/p>\n<p>I believe the Gospel can awaken in others this great surprise of recognition. I am not alone in knowing God, and so I preach Christ and keep the faith. I believe God is knocking somewhere deep inside each of us, and I Jesus leads us to answer. St John Chrysostom once said, \u201cFind the door of your heart, you will discover it is the door of the kingdom of God.\u201dI don\u2019t think I could have put it any better.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>When atheists question my faith I am often at a lack for words. How does one explain knowing God apart from knowing God?\u00a0I can\u2019t point to the sciences to justify my faith, for God, by definition, falls outside of what the scientific method is able to perceive. I believe the Bible, but I know it [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1678,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-73","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Divine echoes within<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"When atheists question my faith I am often at a lack for words. How does one explain knowing God apart from knowing God?\u00a0I can&#039;t point to the sciences to\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/billykangas\/2013\/11\/divine-echoes-within.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Divine echoes within\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"When atheists question my faith I am often at a lack for words. How does one explain knowing God apart from knowing God?\u00a0I can&#039;t point to the sciences to\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/billykangas\/2013\/11\/divine-echoes-within.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"The Orant\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:published_time\" content=\"2013-11-14T02:12:21+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:modified_time\" content=\"2013-11-14T03:31:37+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:image\" content=\"http:\/\/wp.patheos.com.s3.amazonaws.com\/blogs\/billykangas\/files\/2013\/11\/Dualism.jpg\" \/>\n<meta name=\"author\" content=\"Billy Kangas\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:label1\" content=\"Written by\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data1\" content=\"Billy Kangas\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:label2\" content=\"Est. reading time\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data2\" content=\"2 minutes\" \/>\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"yoast-schema-graph\">{\"@context\":\"https:\/\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"WebPage\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/billykangas\/2013\/11\/divine-echoes-within.html\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/billykangas\/2013\/11\/divine-echoes-within.html\",\"name\":\"Divine echoes within\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/billykangas\/#website\"},\"datePublished\":\"2013-11-14T02:12:21+00:00\",\"dateModified\":\"2013-11-14T03:31:37+00:00\",\"author\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/billykangas\/#\/schema\/person\/2c17428b1556df23f5982263d9dbd58d\"},\"description\":\"When atheists question my faith I am often at a lack for words. How does one explain knowing God apart from knowing God?\u00a0I can't point to the sciences to\",\"breadcrumb\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/billykangas\/2013\/11\/divine-echoes-within.html#breadcrumb\"},\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"ReadAction\",\"target\":[\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/billykangas\/2013\/11\/divine-echoes-within.html\"]}]},{\"@type\":\"BreadcrumbList\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/billykangas\/2013\/11\/divine-echoes-within.html#breadcrumb\",\"itemListElement\":[{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":1,\"name\":\"Home\",\"item\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/billykangas\"},{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":2,\"name\":\"Divine echoes within\"}]},{\"@type\":\"WebSite\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/billykangas\/#website\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/billykangas\/\",\"name\":\"The Orant\",\"description\":\"Conversations About Following Jesus\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"SearchAction\",\"target\":{\"@type\":\"EntryPoint\",\"urlTemplate\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/billykangas\/?s={search_term_string}\"},\"query-input\":\"required name=search_term_string\"}],\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\"},{\"@type\":\"Person\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/billykangas\/#\/schema\/person\/2c17428b1556df23f5982263d9dbd58d\",\"name\":\"Billy Kangas\",\"image\":{\"@type\":\"ImageObject\",\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/billykangas\/#\/schema\/person\/image\/\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/c62caf5013b1314de00735bfe5204a74?s=96&d=mm&r=g\",\"contentUrl\":\"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/c62caf5013b1314de00735bfe5204a74?s=96&d=mm&r=g\",\"caption\":\"Billy Kangas\"},\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/billykangas\/author\/bkanga\"}]}<\/script>\n<!-- \/ Yoast SEO plugin. -->","yoast_head_json":{"title":"Divine echoes within","description":"When atheists question my faith I am often at a lack for words. How does one explain knowing God apart from knowing God?\u00a0I can't point to the sciences to","robots":{"index":"index","follow":"follow","max-snippet":"max-snippet:-1","max-image-preview":"max-image-preview:large","max-video-preview":"max-video-preview:-1"},"canonical":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/billykangas\/2013\/11\/divine-echoes-within.html","og_locale":"en_US","og_type":"article","og_title":"Divine echoes within","og_description":"When atheists question my faith I am often at a lack for words. How does one explain knowing God apart from knowing God?\u00a0I can't point to the sciences to","og_url":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/billykangas\/2013\/11\/divine-echoes-within.html","og_site_name":"The Orant","article_published_time":"2013-11-14T02:12:21+00:00","article_modified_time":"2013-11-14T03:31:37+00:00","og_image":[{"url":"http:\/\/wp.patheos.com.s3.amazonaws.com\/blogs\/billykangas\/files\/2013\/11\/Dualism.jpg"}],"author":"Billy Kangas","twitter_card":"summary_large_image","twitter_misc":{"Written by":"Billy Kangas","Est. reading time":"2 minutes"},"schema":{"@context":"https:\/\/schema.org","@graph":[{"@type":"WebPage","@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/billykangas\/2013\/11\/divine-echoes-within.html","url":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/billykangas\/2013\/11\/divine-echoes-within.html","name":"Divine echoes within","isPartOf":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/billykangas\/#website"},"datePublished":"2013-11-14T02:12:21+00:00","dateModified":"2013-11-14T03:31:37+00:00","author":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/billykangas\/#\/schema\/person\/2c17428b1556df23f5982263d9dbd58d"},"description":"When atheists question my faith I am often at a lack for words. How does one explain knowing God apart from knowing God?\u00a0I can't point to the sciences to","breadcrumb":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/billykangas\/2013\/11\/divine-echoes-within.html#breadcrumb"},"inLanguage":"en-US","potentialAction":[{"@type":"ReadAction","target":["https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/billykangas\/2013\/11\/divine-echoes-within.html"]}]},{"@type":"BreadcrumbList","@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/billykangas\/2013\/11\/divine-echoes-within.html#breadcrumb","itemListElement":[{"@type":"ListItem","position":1,"name":"Home","item":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/billykangas"},{"@type":"ListItem","position":2,"name":"Divine echoes within"}]},{"@type":"WebSite","@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/billykangas\/#website","url":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/billykangas\/","name":"The Orant","description":"Conversations About Following Jesus","potentialAction":[{"@type":"SearchAction","target":{"@type":"EntryPoint","urlTemplate":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/billykangas\/?s={search_term_string}"},"query-input":"required name=search_term_string"}],"inLanguage":"en-US"},{"@type":"Person","@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/billykangas\/#\/schema\/person\/2c17428b1556df23f5982263d9dbd58d","name":"Billy Kangas","image":{"@type":"ImageObject","inLanguage":"en-US","@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/billykangas\/#\/schema\/person\/image\/","url":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/c62caf5013b1314de00735bfe5204a74?s=96&d=mm&r=g","contentUrl":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/c62caf5013b1314de00735bfe5204a74?s=96&d=mm&r=g","caption":"Billy Kangas"},"url":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/billykangas\/author\/bkanga"}]}},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/billykangas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/73","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/billykangas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/billykangas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/billykangas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1678"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/billykangas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=73"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/billykangas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/73\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/billykangas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=73"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/billykangas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=73"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/billykangas\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=73"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}