{"id":1351,"date":"2012-02-16T09:13:44","date_gmt":"2012-02-16T14:13:44","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/blackwhiteandgray\/?p=1351"},"modified":"2012-02-22T09:25:27","modified_gmt":"2012-02-22T14:25:27","slug":"a-world-without-grace-pure-social-exchange","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/blackwhiteandgray\/2012\/02\/a-world-without-grace-pure-social-exchange\/","title":{"rendered":"A World without Grace? This is What It Would Look Like"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>What would it look like if the world ran without any grace given to others? It would fit into a pure model of social exchange, where everyone, in every interaction, tries to get the most from others for what they have to give.<\/p>\n<p>Certainly social exchange happens in day-to-day life, as <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/blackwhiteandgray\/2012\/02\/valentine%E2%80%99s-day-and-social-exchange-theory\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\">Jeremy Rhodes<\/a> posted about earlier this week. \u00a0But there\u2019s also a lot of grace\u2013unmerited favor\u2013given to others, and for that I\u2019m deeply thankful.<\/p>\n<p>Would you like insight into what a pure social exchange world would look like? \u00a0Consider the following exchange posted on a <a href=\"http:\/\/howardlindzon.com\/craigslist-meets-wallstreetclassic\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Craig\u2019s List discussion board<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>******<\/p>\n<p><strong>A woman posts:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>What am I doing wrong?<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/79\/2012\/02\/clip_image002_4.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-1352\" title=\"clip_image002_4\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/79\/2012\/02\/clip_image002_4-246x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"246\" height=\"300\"><\/a>Okay, I\u2019m tired of beating around the bush. I\u2019m a beautiful (spectacularly beautiful) 25 year old girl. I\u2019m articulate and classy. I\u2019m not from New York . I\u2019m looking to get married to a guy who makes at least half a million a year. I know how that sounds, but keep in mind that a million a year is middle class in New York City, so I don\u2019t think I\u2019m overreaching at all.<\/p>\n<p>Are there any guys who make 500K or more on this board? Any wives? Could you send me some tips? I dated a business man who makes average around 200 \u2013 250. But that\u2019s where I seem to hit a roadblock. 250,000 won\u2019t get me to central park west. I know a woman in my yoga class who was married to an investment banker and lives in Tribeca, and she\u2019s not as pretty as I am, nor is she a great genius. So what is she doing right? How do I get to her level?<\/p>\n<p>Here are my questions specifically:<!--more--><br>\n\u2013 Where do you single rich men hang out? Give me specifics- bars, restaurants, gyms<br>\n-What are you looking for in a mate? Be honest guys, you won\u2019t hurt my feelings<br>\n-Is there an age range I should be targeting (I\u2019m 25)?<br>\n\u2013 Why are some of the women living lavish lifestyles on the upper east side so plain? I\u2019ve seen really \u2018plain jane\u2019 boring types who have nothing to offer married to incredibly wealthy guys. I\u2019ve seen drop dead gorgeous girls in singles bars in the east village. What\u2019s the story there?<br>\n\u2013 Jobs I should look out for? Everyone knows \u2013 lawyer, investment banker, doctor. How much do those guys really make? And where do they hang out? Where do the hedge fund guys hang out?<br>\n\u2013 How you decide marriage vs. just a girlfriend? I am looking for MARRIAGE ONLY<\/p>\n<p>Please hold your insults \u2013 I\u2019m putting myself out there in an honest way. Most beautiful women are superficial; at least I\u2019m being up front about it. I wouldn\u2019t be searching for these kind of guys if I wasn\u2019t able to match them \u2013 in looks, culture, sophistication, and keeping a nice home and hearth.<\/p>\n<p><strong>A man answers:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I read your posting with great interest and have thought meaningfully about your dilemma. I offer the following analysis of your predicament. Firstly, I\u2019m not wasting your time, I qualify as a guy who fits your bill; that is I make more than $500K per year. That said here\u2019s how I see it.<\/p>\n<p>Your offer, from the prospective of a guy like me, is plain and simple a crappy business deal. Here\u2019s why. Cutting through all the B.S., what you suggest is a simple trade: you bring your looks to the party and I bring my money. Fine, simple. But here\u2019s the rub, your looks will fade and my money will likely continue into perpetuity\u2026in fact, it is very likely that my income increases but it is an absolute certainty that you won\u2019t be getting any more beautiful!<\/p>\n<p>So, in economic terms you are a depreciating asset and I am an earning asset. Not only are you a depreciating asset, your depreciation accelerates! Let me explain, you\u2019re 25 now and will likely stay pretty hot for the next 5 years, but less so each year. Then the fade begins in earnest. By 35 stick a fork in you!<\/p>\n<p>So in Wall Street terms, we would call you a trading position, not a buy and hold\u2026hence the rub\u2026marriage. It doesn\u2019t make good business sense to \u201cbuy you\u201d (which is what you\u2019re asking) so I\u2019d rather lease. In case you think I\u2019m being cruel, I would say the following. If my money were to go away, so would you, so when your beauty fades I need an out. It\u2019s as simple as that. So a deal that makes sense is dating, not marriage.<\/p>\n<p>Separately, I was taught early in my career about efficient markets. So, I wonder why a girl as \u201carticulate, classy and spectacularly beautiful\u201d as you has been unable to find your sugar daddy. I find it hard to believe that if you are as gorgeous as you say you are that the $500K hasn\u2019t found you, if not only for a tryout.<\/p>\n<p>By the way, you could always find a way to make your own money and then we wouldn\u2019t need to have this difficult conversation. With all that said, I must say you\u2019re going about it the right way. Classic \u201cpump and dump.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>I hope this is helpful, and if you want to enter into some sort of lease, let me know.<\/p>\n<p>********<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m not sure that I would want to live in such a world, and it makes me all the more thankful by the grace offered and fostered in Christianity.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>What would it look like if the world ran without any grace given to others? It would fit into a pure model of social exchange, where everyone, in every interaction, tries to get the most from others for what they have to give. 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