{"id":9515,"date":"2015-01-22T00:03:00","date_gmt":"2015-01-22T00:03:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.catholicnewsagency.com\/news\/could-a-us-priest-face-jail-for-refusing-to-break-confession-seal-76133\/"},"modified":"2015-01-22T00:03:00","modified_gmt":"2015-01-22T00:03:00","slug":"could-a-us-priest-face-jail-for-refusing-to-break-confession-seal","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/catholicnews\/2015\/01\/could-a-us-priest-face-jail-for-refusing-to-break-confession-seal\/","title":{"rendered":"Could a US priest face jail for refusing to break confession seal?"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.catholicnewsagency.com\/images\/size340\/Confessional_Credit_Angela_Marie_via_Flickr_CC_BY_20_CNA_12_16_14.jpg\"><\/p>\n<p>Washington D.C., Jan 21, 2015 \/ 05:03 pm (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.catholicnewsagency.com\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">CNA\/EWTN News<\/a>).- The U.S. Supreme Court has declined to hear a petition from a Louisiana Catholic diocese that fears a civil lawsuit could force a priest to violate the seal of confession or go to jail.<\/p>\n<p>\tThe Diocese of Baton Rouge and diocesan priest Father Jeff Bayhi were disappointed by the decision, which the diocese said has \u201csignificant ramifications for religious freedom in Louisiana and beyond.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\t\u201cThe diocese and Fr. Bayhi will continue their efforts to protect the guarantees of religious freedom set forth in our state and federal constitutions, and are confident that those efforts will, in due course, be successful,\u201d the diocese said in a Jan. 20 statement.<\/p>\n<p>\tThe diocese and the priest are considering \u201ca number of options\u201d for other constitutional challenges in the case.<\/p>\n<p>\tThe U.S. Supreme Court has let stand the Louisiana Supreme Court\u2019s May 2014 ruling that a court hearing is necessary to determine whether state law protects a priest\u2019s conversation during confession with a minor about an alleged sexual abuser in the parish.<\/p>\n<p>\tCatholic priests are bound to observe the seal of confession and cannot not reveal to anyone the contents of a confession or whether a confession took place. Priests who violate the seal are automatically excommunicated.<\/p>\n<p>\tAt issue is a civil lawsuit involving a woman who said that in 2008, when she was a minor, she told Fr. Bayhi that she was being abused by a parishioner. The alleged conversation with the priest took place during the Sacrament of Confession. The woman is now in her early 20s.<\/p>\n<p>\tThe young woman's family is now suing the priest and the diocese for damages, saying they were negligent in allowing the abuse to continue, The Times-Picayune newspaper reports. The estate of the man who allegedly molested the woman is also named in the suit. The accused man died in 2009.<\/p>\n<p>\tA trial court had denied the diocese's motion to prevent any plaintiffs from testifying about any confessions that may have taken place between the then-minor and the priest. However, a state appeals court had ruled that the alleged confession was legally confidential and that the priest was not a mandatory reporter.<\/p>\n<p>\tLater, the Louisiana Supreme Court overturned the appeals court. It said that a fact finding hearing should determine whether the priest had the duty to report alleged abuse under the state's mandatory reporting law. It noted that Louisiana law requires any mandatory reporter to report suspected abuse \u201cnotwithstanding any claim of privileged communication.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\tThe Louisiana Supreme Court also ruled that under state law the priest-penitent privilege belongs to the penitent, not to the priest, and if the penitent waives the privilege then the priest \u201ccannot raise it to protect himself.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\tIn September 2014, the diocese characterized the legal issue as something that \u201cattacks the seal of confession\u201d and an \u201cattempt by the plaintiffs to have the court compel testimony from the priest.\u201d<br>\n\tThomas McKenna, the president of the San Diego-based group Catholic Action for Faith and Family, also expressed disappointment that the U.S. Supreme Court declined to give a hearing to the question.<\/p>\n<p>\t\u201cWe had hoped that the Supreme Court would clarify the issue once and for all,\u201d said McKenna, whose organization joined several other groups in filing legal briefs in support of the Baton Rouge diocese and the priest.<\/p>\n<p>\tHe suggested that the plaintiff attorneys modified their position in response to the briefs and began to voice uncertainty about whether they would call the priest to testify about anything he allegedly heard in confession.<\/p>\n<p>\t\u201cThat\u2019s a success,\u201d McKenna said. \u201cBecause all these briefs were filed, they changed their tone, and that\u2019s probably why the Supreme Court didn\u2019t accept hearing the case right now.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\tIf the plaintiff attorneys do call the priest to testify, he said, \u201cwe would revisit the case again.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\tHowever, McKenna warned that the case threatens to advance a significant change in American culture when respect for religious freedom is already on the wane.<\/p>\n<p>\t\u201cThis is unprecedented in the history of our country,\u201d he said, saying that a state supreme court has never before ruled that a priest would have to violate the seal of confession.<\/p>\n<p>\t\u201cWe have a civil court calling a priest and disregarding his religious perspective, saying that this is a civil matter and we don\u2019t care what your religion says. You have to tell us.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\t\u201cThe state has no right to demand from him that he break his vow. That\u2019s what\u2019s very concerning and scary,\u201d McKenna continued. \u201cWhat you have is the state telling the religion that they have to re-structure and re-order its religion.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\tMcKenna encouraged Catholics to pray for Fr. Bayhi.<\/p>\n<div class=\"feedflare\">\n<a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/catholicnewsagency\/dailynews?a=vqegTLcMsZI:Fq-fqWLpmRk:yIl2AUoC8zA\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/catholicnewsagency\/dailynews?d=yIl2AUoC8zA\" border=\"0\"><\/a>\n<\/div>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~r\/catholicnewsagency\/dailynews\/~4\/vqegTLcMsZI\" height=\"1\" width=\"1\" alt=\"\"><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.catholicnewsagency.com\/images\/size340\/Confessional_Credit_Angela_Marie_via_Flickr_CC_BY_20_CNA_12_16_14.jpg\"><\/p>\n<p>Washington D.C., Jan 21, 2015 \/ 05:03 pm (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.catholicnewsagency.com\/\" target=\"_self\">CNA\/EWTN News<\/a>).- The U.S. Supreme Court has declined to hear a petition from a Louisiana Catholic diocese that fears a civil lawsuit could force a priest to violate the seal of confession or go to jail.<\/p>\n<p>\tThe Diocese of Baton Rouge and diocesan priest Father Jeff Bayhi were disappointed by the decision, which the diocese said has &ldquo;significant ramifications for religious freedom in Louisiana and beyond.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>\t&ldquo;The diocese and Fr. Bayhi will continue their efforts to protect the guarantees of religious freedom set forth in our state and federal constitutions, and are confident that those efforts will, in due course, be successful,&rdquo; the diocese said in a Jan. 20 statement.<\/p>\n<p>\tThe diocese and the priest are considering &ldquo;a number of options&rdquo; for other constitutional challenges in the case.<\/p>\n<p>\tThe U.S. Supreme Court has let stand the Louisiana Supreme Court&rsquo;s May 2014 ruling that a court hearing is necessary to determine whether state law protects a priest&rsquo;s conversation during confession with a minor about an alleged sexual abuser in the parish.<\/p>\n<p>\tCatholic priests are bound to observe the seal of confession and cannot not reveal to anyone the contents of a confession or whether a confession took place. Priests who violate the seal are automatically excommunicated.<\/p>\n<p>\tAt issue is a civil lawsuit involving a woman who said that in 2008, when she was a minor, she told Fr. Bayhi that she was being abused by a parishioner. The alleged conversation with the priest took place during the Sacrament of Confession. The woman is now in her early 20s.<\/p>\n<p>\tThe young woman&#8217;s family is now suing the priest and the diocese for damages, saying they were negligent in allowing the abuse to continue, The Times-Picayune newspaper reports. The estate of the man who allegedly molested the woman is also named in the suit. The accused man died in 2009.<\/p>\n<p>\tA trial court had denied the diocese&#8217;s motion to prevent any plaintiffs from testifying about any confessions that may have taken place between the then-minor and the priest. However, a state appeals court had ruled that the alleged confession was legally confidential and that the priest was not a mandatory reporter.<\/p>\n<p>\tLater, the Louisiana Supreme Court overturned the appeals court. It said that a fact finding hearing should determine whether the priest had the duty to report alleged abuse under the state&#8217;s mandatory reporting law. It noted that Louisiana law requires any mandatory reporter to report suspected abuse &ldquo;notwithstanding any claim of privileged communication.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>\tThe Louisiana Supreme Court also ruled that under state law the priest-penitent privilege belongs to the penitent, not to the priest, and if the penitent waives the privilege then the priest &ldquo;cannot raise it to protect himself.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>\tIn September 2014, the diocese characterized the legal issue as something that &ldquo;attacks the seal of confession&rdquo; and an &ldquo;attempt by the plaintiffs to have the court compel testimony from the priest.&rdquo;<br \/>\n\tThomas McKenna, the president of the San Diego-based group Catholic Action for Faith and Family, also expressed disappointment that the U.S. Supreme Court declined to give a hearing to the question.<\/p>\n<p>\t&ldquo;We had hoped that the Supreme Court would clarify the issue once and for all,&rdquo; said McKenna, whose organization joined several other groups in filing legal briefs in support of the Baton Rouge diocese and the priest.<\/p>\n<p>\tHe suggested that the plaintiff attorneys modified their position in response to the briefs and began to voice uncertainty about whether they would call the priest to testify about anything he allegedly heard in confession.<\/p>\n<p>\t&ldquo;That&rsquo;s a success,&rdquo; McKenna said. &ldquo;Because all these briefs were filed, they changed their tone, and that&rsquo;s probably why the Supreme Court didn&rsquo;t accept hearing the case right now.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>\tIf the plaintiff attorneys do call the priest to testify, he said, &ldquo;we would revisit the case again.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>\tHowever, McKenna warned that the case threatens to advance a significant change in American culture when respect for religious freedom is already on the wane.<\/p>\n<p>\t&ldquo;This is unprecedented in the history of our country,&rdquo; he said, saying that a state supreme court has never before ruled that a priest would have to violate the seal of confession.<\/p>\n<p>\t&ldquo;We have a civil court calling a priest and disregarding his religious perspective, saying that this is a civil matter and we don&rsquo;t care what your religion says. You have to tell us.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>\t&ldquo;The state has no right to demand from him that he break his vow. That&rsquo;s what&rsquo;s very concerning and scary,&rdquo; McKenna continued. &ldquo;What you have is the state telling the religion that they have to re-structure and re-order its religion.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>\tMcKenna encouraged Catholics to pray for Fr. Bayhi.<\/p>\n<div>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/catholicnewsagency\/dailynews?a=vqegTLcMsZI:Fq-fqWLpmRk:yIl2AUoC8zA\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/catholicnewsagency\/dailynews?d=yIl2AUoC8zA\" border=\"0\"><\/a>\n<\/div>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~r\/catholicnewsagency\/dailynews\/~4\/vqegTLcMsZI\" height=\"1\" width=\"1\" alt=\"\"><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1031,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-9515","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-us"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Could a US priest face jail for refusing to break confession seal?<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Washington D.C., Jan 21, 2015 \/ 05:03 pm (CNA\/EWTN News).- The U.S. Supreme Court has declined to hear a petition from a Louisiana Catholic diocese that fears a civil lawsuit could force a priest to violate the seal of confession or go to jail. The Diocese of Baton Rouge and diocesan priest Father Jeff Bayhi were disappointed by the decision, which the diocese said has &ldquo;significant ramifications for religious freedom in Louisiana and beyond.&rdquo; &ldquo;The diocese and Fr. Bayhi will continue their efforts to protect the guarantees of religious freedom set forth in our state and federal constitutions, and are confident that those efforts will, in due course, be successful,&rdquo; the diocese said in a Jan. 20 statement. The diocese and the priest are considering &ldquo;a number of options&rdquo; for other constitutional challenges in the case. The U.S. Supreme Court has let stand the Louisiana Supreme Court&rsquo;s May 2014 ruling that a court hearing is necessary to determine whether state law protects a priest&rsquo;s conversation during confession with a minor about an alleged sexual abuser in the parish. Catholic priests are bound to observe the seal of confession and cannot not reveal to anyone the contents of a confession or whether a confession took place. Priests who violate the seal are automatically excommunicated. At issue is a civil lawsuit involving a woman who said that in 2008, when she was a minor, she told Fr. Bayhi that she was being abused by a parishioner. The alleged conversation with the priest took place during the Sacrament of Confession. The woman is now in her early 20s. The young woman&#039;s family is now suing the priest and the diocese for damages, saying they were negligent in allowing the abuse to continue, The Times-Picayune newspaper reports. The estate of the man who allegedly molested the woman is also named in the suit. The accused man died in 2009. A trial court had denied the diocese&#039;s motion to prevent any plaintiffs from testifying about any confessions that may have taken place between the then-minor and the priest. However, a state appeals court had ruled that the alleged confession was legally confidential and that the priest was not a mandatory reporter. Later, the Louisiana Supreme Court overturned the appeals court. It said that a fact finding hearing should determine whether the priest had the duty to report alleged abuse under the state&#039;s mandatory reporting law. It noted that Louisiana law requires any mandatory reporter to report suspected abuse &ldquo;notwithstanding any claim of privileged communication.&rdquo; The Louisiana Supreme Court also ruled that under state law the priest-penitent privilege belongs to the penitent, not to the priest, and if the penitent waives the privilege then the priest &ldquo;cannot raise it to protect himself.&rdquo; In September 2014, the diocese characterized the legal issue as something that &ldquo;attacks the seal of confession&rdquo; and an &ldquo;attempt by the plaintiffs to have the court compel testimony from the priest.&rdquo; Thomas McKenna, the president of the San Diego-based group Catholic Action for Faith and Family, also expressed disappointment that the U.S. Supreme Court declined to give a hearing to the question. &ldquo;We had hoped that the Supreme Court would clarify the issue once and for all,&rdquo; said McKenna, whose organization joined several other groups in filing legal briefs in support of the Baton Rouge diocese and the priest. He suggested that the plaintiff attorneys modified their position in response to the briefs and began to voice uncertainty about whether they would call the priest to testify about anything he allegedly heard in confession. &ldquo;That&rsquo;s a success,&rdquo; McKenna said. &ldquo;Because all these briefs were filed, they changed their tone, and that&rsquo;s probably why the Supreme Court didn&rsquo;t accept hearing the case right now.&rdquo; If the plaintiff attorneys do call the priest to testify, he said, &ldquo;we would revisit the case again.&rdquo; However, McKenna warned that the case threatens to advance a significant change in American culture when respect for religious freedom is already on the wane. &ldquo;This is unprecedented in the history of our country,&rdquo; he said, saying that a state supreme court has never before ruled that a priest would have to violate the seal of confession. &ldquo;We have a civil court calling a priest and disregarding his religious perspective, saying that this is a civil matter and we don&rsquo;t care what your religion says. You have to tell us.&rdquo; &ldquo;The state has no right to demand from him that he break his vow. That&rsquo;s what&rsquo;s very concerning and scary,&rdquo; McKenna continued. &ldquo;What you have is the state telling the religion that they have to re-structure and re-order its religion.&rdquo; McKenna encouraged Catholics to pray for Fr. Bayhi.\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/catholicnews\/2015\/01\/could-a-us-priest-face-jail-for-refusing-to-break-confession-seal\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Could a US priest face jail for refusing to break confession seal?\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Washington D.C., Jan 21, 2015 \/ 05:03 pm (CNA\/EWTN News).- The U.S. Supreme Court has declined to hear a petition from a Louisiana Catholic diocese that fears a civil lawsuit could force a priest to violate the seal of confession or go to jail. The Diocese of Baton Rouge and diocesan priest Father Jeff Bayhi were disappointed by the decision, which the diocese said has &ldquo;significant ramifications for religious freedom in Louisiana and beyond.&rdquo; &ldquo;The diocese and Fr. Bayhi will continue their efforts to protect the guarantees of religious freedom set forth in our state and federal constitutions, and are confident that those efforts will, in due course, be successful,&rdquo; the diocese said in a Jan. 20 statement. The diocese and the priest are considering &ldquo;a number of options&rdquo; for other constitutional challenges in the case. The U.S. Supreme Court has let stand the Louisiana Supreme Court&rsquo;s May 2014 ruling that a court hearing is necessary to determine whether state law protects a priest&rsquo;s conversation during confession with a minor about an alleged sexual abuser in the parish. Catholic priests are bound to observe the seal of confession and cannot not reveal to anyone the contents of a confession or whether a confession took place. Priests who violate the seal are automatically excommunicated. At issue is a civil lawsuit involving a woman who said that in 2008, when she was a minor, she told Fr. Bayhi that she was being abused by a parishioner. The alleged conversation with the priest took place during the Sacrament of Confession. The woman is now in her early 20s. The young woman&#039;s family is now suing the priest and the diocese for damages, saying they were negligent in allowing the abuse to continue, The Times-Picayune newspaper reports. The estate of the man who allegedly molested the woman is also named in the suit. The accused man died in 2009. A trial court had denied the diocese&#039;s motion to prevent any plaintiffs from testifying about any confessions that may have taken place between the then-minor and the priest. However, a state appeals court had ruled that the alleged confession was legally confidential and that the priest was not a mandatory reporter. Later, the Louisiana Supreme Court overturned the appeals court. It said that a fact finding hearing should determine whether the priest had the duty to report alleged abuse under the state&#039;s mandatory reporting law. It noted that Louisiana law requires any mandatory reporter to report suspected abuse &ldquo;notwithstanding any claim of privileged communication.&rdquo; The Louisiana Supreme Court also ruled that under state law the priest-penitent privilege belongs to the penitent, not to the priest, and if the penitent waives the privilege then the priest &ldquo;cannot raise it to protect himself.&rdquo; In September 2014, the diocese characterized the legal issue as something that &ldquo;attacks the seal of confession&rdquo; and an &ldquo;attempt by the plaintiffs to have the court compel testimony from the priest.&rdquo; Thomas McKenna, the president of the San Diego-based group Catholic Action for Faith and Family, also expressed disappointment that the U.S. Supreme Court declined to give a hearing to the question. &ldquo;We had hoped that the Supreme Court would clarify the issue once and for all,&rdquo; said McKenna, whose organization joined several other groups in filing legal briefs in support of the Baton Rouge diocese and the priest. He suggested that the plaintiff attorneys modified their position in response to the briefs and began to voice uncertainty about whether they would call the priest to testify about anything he allegedly heard in confession. &ldquo;That&rsquo;s a success,&rdquo; McKenna said. &ldquo;Because all these briefs were filed, they changed their tone, and that&rsquo;s probably why the Supreme Court didn&rsquo;t accept hearing the case right now.&rdquo; If the plaintiff attorneys do call the priest to testify, he said, &ldquo;we would revisit the case again.&rdquo; However, McKenna warned that the case threatens to advance a significant change in American culture when respect for religious freedom is already on the wane. &ldquo;This is unprecedented in the history of our country,&rdquo; he said, saying that a state supreme court has never before ruled that a priest would have to violate the seal of confession. &ldquo;We have a civil court calling a priest and disregarding his religious perspective, saying that this is a civil matter and we don&rsquo;t care what your religion says. You have to tell us.&rdquo; &ldquo;The state has no right to demand from him that he break his vow. That&rsquo;s what&rsquo;s very concerning and scary,&rdquo; McKenna continued. &ldquo;What you have is the state telling the religion that they have to re-structure and re-order its religion.&rdquo; McKenna encouraged Catholics to pray for Fr. Bayhi.\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/catholicnews\/2015\/01\/could-a-us-priest-face-jail-for-refusing-to-break-confession-seal\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"Catholic News\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:published_time\" content=\"2015-01-22T00:03:00+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:image\" content=\"http:\/\/www.catholicnewsagency.com\/images\/size340\/Confessional_Credit_Angela_Marie_via_Flickr_CC_BY_20_CNA_12_16_14.jpg\" \/>\n<meta name=\"author\" content=\"CNA Daily News\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:label1\" content=\"Written by\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data1\" content=\"CNA Daily News\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:label2\" content=\"Est. reading time\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data2\" content=\"4 minutes\" \/>\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"yoast-schema-graph\">{\"@context\":\"https:\/\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"WebPage\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/catholicnews\/2015\/01\/could-a-us-priest-face-jail-for-refusing-to-break-confession-seal\/\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/catholicnews\/2015\/01\/could-a-us-priest-face-jail-for-refusing-to-break-confession-seal\/\",\"name\":\"Could a US priest face jail for refusing to break confession seal?\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/catholicnews\/#website\"},\"datePublished\":\"2015-01-22T00:03:00+00:00\",\"dateModified\":\"2015-01-22T00:03:00+00:00\",\"author\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/catholicnews\/#\/schema\/person\/35d4bd7addc580050842c844a11575f1\"},\"description\":\"Washington D.C., Jan 21, 2015 \/ 05:03 pm (CNA\/EWTN News).- The U.S. Supreme Court has declined to hear a petition from a Louisiana Catholic diocese that fears a civil lawsuit could force a priest to violate the seal of confession or go to jail. The Diocese of Baton Rouge and diocesan priest Father Jeff Bayhi were disappointed by the decision, which the diocese said has &ldquo;significant ramifications for religious freedom in Louisiana and beyond.&rdquo; &ldquo;The diocese and Fr. Bayhi will continue their efforts to protect the guarantees of religious freedom set forth in our state and federal constitutions, and are confident that those efforts will, in due course, be successful,&rdquo; the diocese said in a Jan. 20 statement. The diocese and the priest are considering &ldquo;a number of options&rdquo; for other constitutional challenges in the case. The U.S. Supreme Court has let stand the Louisiana Supreme Court&rsquo;s May 2014 ruling that a court hearing is necessary to determine whether state law protects a priest&rsquo;s conversation during confession with a minor about an alleged sexual abuser in the parish. Catholic priests are bound to observe the seal of confession and cannot not reveal to anyone the contents of a confession or whether a confession took place. Priests who violate the seal are automatically excommunicated. At issue is a civil lawsuit involving a woman who said that in 2008, when she was a minor, she told Fr. Bayhi that she was being abused by a parishioner. The alleged conversation with the priest took place during the Sacrament of Confession. The woman is now in her early 20s. The young woman's family is now suing the priest and the diocese for damages, saying they were negligent in allowing the abuse to continue, The Times-Picayune newspaper reports. The estate of the man who allegedly molested the woman is also named in the suit. The accused man died in 2009. A trial court had denied the diocese's motion to prevent any plaintiffs from testifying about any confessions that may have taken place between the then-minor and the priest. However, a state appeals court had ruled that the alleged confession was legally confidential and that the priest was not a mandatory reporter. Later, the Louisiana Supreme Court overturned the appeals court. It said that a fact finding hearing should determine whether the priest had the duty to report alleged abuse under the state's mandatory reporting law. It noted that Louisiana law requires any mandatory reporter to report suspected abuse &ldquo;notwithstanding any claim of privileged communication.&rdquo; The Louisiana Supreme Court also ruled that under state law the priest-penitent privilege belongs to the penitent, not to the priest, and if the penitent waives the privilege then the priest &ldquo;cannot raise it to protect himself.&rdquo; In September 2014, the diocese characterized the legal issue as something that &ldquo;attacks the seal of confession&rdquo; and an &ldquo;attempt by the plaintiffs to have the court compel testimony from the priest.&rdquo; Thomas McKenna, the president of the San Diego-based group Catholic Action for Faith and Family, also expressed disappointment that the U.S. Supreme Court declined to give a hearing to the question. &ldquo;We had hoped that the Supreme Court would clarify the issue once and for all,&rdquo; said McKenna, whose organization joined several other groups in filing legal briefs in support of the Baton Rouge diocese and the priest. He suggested that the plaintiff attorneys modified their position in response to the briefs and began to voice uncertainty about whether they would call the priest to testify about anything he allegedly heard in confession. &ldquo;That&rsquo;s a success,&rdquo; McKenna said. &ldquo;Because all these briefs were filed, they changed their tone, and that&rsquo;s probably why the Supreme Court didn&rsquo;t accept hearing the case right now.&rdquo; If the plaintiff attorneys do call the priest to testify, he said, &ldquo;we would revisit the case again.&rdquo; However, McKenna warned that the case threatens to advance a significant change in American culture when respect for religious freedom is already on the wane. &ldquo;This is unprecedented in the history of our country,&rdquo; he said, saying that a state supreme court has never before ruled that a priest would have to violate the seal of confession. &ldquo;We have a civil court calling a priest and disregarding his religious perspective, saying that this is a civil matter and we don&rsquo;t care what your religion says. You have to tell us.&rdquo; &ldquo;The state has no right to demand from him that he break his vow. That&rsquo;s what&rsquo;s very concerning and scary,&rdquo; McKenna continued. &ldquo;What you have is the state telling the religion that they have to re-structure and re-order its religion.&rdquo; McKenna encouraged Catholics to pray for Fr. Bayhi.\",\"breadcrumb\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/catholicnews\/2015\/01\/could-a-us-priest-face-jail-for-refusing-to-break-confession-seal\/#breadcrumb\"},\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"ReadAction\",\"target\":[\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/catholicnews\/2015\/01\/could-a-us-priest-face-jail-for-refusing-to-break-confession-seal\/\"]}]},{\"@type\":\"BreadcrumbList\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/catholicnews\/2015\/01\/could-a-us-priest-face-jail-for-refusing-to-break-confession-seal\/#breadcrumb\",\"itemListElement\":[{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":1,\"name\":\"Home\",\"item\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/catholicnews\/\"},{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":2,\"name\":\"Could a US priest face jail for refusing to break confession seal?\"}]},{\"@type\":\"WebSite\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/catholicnews\/#website\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/catholicnews\/\",\"name\":\"Catholic News\",\"description\":\"\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"SearchAction\",\"target\":{\"@type\":\"EntryPoint\",\"urlTemplate\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/catholicnews\/?s={search_term_string}\"},\"query-input\":\"required name=search_term_string\"}],\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\"},{\"@type\":\"Person\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/catholicnews\/#\/schema\/person\/35d4bd7addc580050842c844a11575f1\",\"name\":\"CNA Daily News\",\"image\":{\"@type\":\"ImageObject\",\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/catholicnews\/#\/schema\/person\/image\/\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/8f1180c7dca7995d4a997aac72a3a88a?s=96&d=mm&r=g\",\"contentUrl\":\"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/8f1180c7dca7995d4a997aac72a3a88a?s=96&d=mm&r=g\",\"caption\":\"CNA Daily News\"},\"sameAs\":[\"http:\/\/www.catholicnewsagency.com\/\"],\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/catholicnews\/author\/cna-daily-news\/\"}]}<\/script>\n<!-- \/ Yoast SEO plugin. -->","yoast_head_json":{"title":"Could a US priest face jail for refusing to break confession seal?","description":"Washington D.C., Jan 21, 2015 \/ 05:03 pm (CNA\/EWTN News).- The U.S. Supreme Court has declined to hear a petition from a Louisiana Catholic diocese that fears a civil lawsuit could force a priest to violate the seal of confession or go to jail. The Diocese of Baton Rouge and diocesan priest Father Jeff Bayhi were disappointed by the decision, which the diocese said has &ldquo;significant ramifications for religious freedom in Louisiana and beyond.&rdquo; &ldquo;The diocese and Fr. Bayhi will continue their efforts to protect the guarantees of religious freedom set forth in our state and federal constitutions, and are confident that those efforts will, in due course, be successful,&rdquo; the diocese said in a Jan. 20 statement. The diocese and the priest are considering &ldquo;a number of options&rdquo; for other constitutional challenges in the case. The U.S. Supreme Court has let stand the Louisiana Supreme Court&rsquo;s May 2014 ruling that a court hearing is necessary to determine whether state law protects a priest&rsquo;s conversation during confession with a minor about an alleged sexual abuser in the parish. Catholic priests are bound to observe the seal of confession and cannot not reveal to anyone the contents of a confession or whether a confession took place. Priests who violate the seal are automatically excommunicated. At issue is a civil lawsuit involving a woman who said that in 2008, when she was a minor, she told Fr. Bayhi that she was being abused by a parishioner. The alleged conversation with the priest took place during the Sacrament of Confession. The woman is now in her early 20s. The young woman's family is now suing the priest and the diocese for damages, saying they were negligent in allowing the abuse to continue, The Times-Picayune newspaper reports. The estate of the man who allegedly molested the woman is also named in the suit. The accused man died in 2009. A trial court had denied the diocese's motion to prevent any plaintiffs from testifying about any confessions that may have taken place between the then-minor and the priest. However, a state appeals court had ruled that the alleged confession was legally confidential and that the priest was not a mandatory reporter. Later, the Louisiana Supreme Court overturned the appeals court. It said that a fact finding hearing should determine whether the priest had the duty to report alleged abuse under the state's mandatory reporting law. It noted that Louisiana law requires any mandatory reporter to report suspected abuse &ldquo;notwithstanding any claim of privileged communication.&rdquo; The Louisiana Supreme Court also ruled that under state law the priest-penitent privilege belongs to the penitent, not to the priest, and if the penitent waives the privilege then the priest &ldquo;cannot raise it to protect himself.&rdquo; In September 2014, the diocese characterized the legal issue as something that &ldquo;attacks the seal of confession&rdquo; and an &ldquo;attempt by the plaintiffs to have the court compel testimony from the priest.&rdquo; Thomas McKenna, the president of the San Diego-based group Catholic Action for Faith and Family, also expressed disappointment that the U.S. Supreme Court declined to give a hearing to the question. &ldquo;We had hoped that the Supreme Court would clarify the issue once and for all,&rdquo; said McKenna, whose organization joined several other groups in filing legal briefs in support of the Baton Rouge diocese and the priest. He suggested that the plaintiff attorneys modified their position in response to the briefs and began to voice uncertainty about whether they would call the priest to testify about anything he allegedly heard in confession. &ldquo;That&rsquo;s a success,&rdquo; McKenna said. &ldquo;Because all these briefs were filed, they changed their tone, and that&rsquo;s probably why the Supreme Court didn&rsquo;t accept hearing the case right now.&rdquo; If the plaintiff attorneys do call the priest to testify, he said, &ldquo;we would revisit the case again.&rdquo; However, McKenna warned that the case threatens to advance a significant change in American culture when respect for religious freedom is already on the wane. &ldquo;This is unprecedented in the history of our country,&rdquo; he said, saying that a state supreme court has never before ruled that a priest would have to violate the seal of confession. &ldquo;We have a civil court calling a priest and disregarding his religious perspective, saying that this is a civil matter and we don&rsquo;t care what your religion says. You have to tell us.&rdquo; &ldquo;The state has no right to demand from him that he break his vow. That&rsquo;s what&rsquo;s very concerning and scary,&rdquo; McKenna continued. &ldquo;What you have is the state telling the religion that they have to re-structure and re-order its religion.&rdquo; McKenna encouraged Catholics to pray for Fr. Bayhi.","robots":{"index":"index","follow":"follow","max-snippet":"max-snippet:-1","max-image-preview":"max-image-preview:large","max-video-preview":"max-video-preview:-1"},"canonical":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/catholicnews\/2015\/01\/could-a-us-priest-face-jail-for-refusing-to-break-confession-seal\/","og_locale":"en_US","og_type":"article","og_title":"Could a US priest face jail for refusing to break confession seal?","og_description":"Washington D.C., Jan 21, 2015 \/ 05:03 pm (CNA\/EWTN News).- The U.S. Supreme Court has declined to hear a petition from a Louisiana Catholic diocese that fears a civil lawsuit could force a priest to violate the seal of confession or go to jail. The Diocese of Baton Rouge and diocesan priest Father Jeff Bayhi were disappointed by the decision, which the diocese said has &ldquo;significant ramifications for religious freedom in Louisiana and beyond.&rdquo; &ldquo;The diocese and Fr. Bayhi will continue their efforts to protect the guarantees of religious freedom set forth in our state and federal constitutions, and are confident that those efforts will, in due course, be successful,&rdquo; the diocese said in a Jan. 20 statement. The diocese and the priest are considering &ldquo;a number of options&rdquo; for other constitutional challenges in the case. The U.S. Supreme Court has let stand the Louisiana Supreme Court&rsquo;s May 2014 ruling that a court hearing is necessary to determine whether state law protects a priest&rsquo;s conversation during confession with a minor about an alleged sexual abuser in the parish. Catholic priests are bound to observe the seal of confession and cannot not reveal to anyone the contents of a confession or whether a confession took place. Priests who violate the seal are automatically excommunicated. At issue is a civil lawsuit involving a woman who said that in 2008, when she was a minor, she told Fr. Bayhi that she was being abused by a parishioner. The alleged conversation with the priest took place during the Sacrament of Confession. The woman is now in her early 20s. The young woman's family is now suing the priest and the diocese for damages, saying they were negligent in allowing the abuse to continue, The Times-Picayune newspaper reports. The estate of the man who allegedly molested the woman is also named in the suit. The accused man died in 2009. A trial court had denied the diocese's motion to prevent any plaintiffs from testifying about any confessions that may have taken place between the then-minor and the priest. However, a state appeals court had ruled that the alleged confession was legally confidential and that the priest was not a mandatory reporter. Later, the Louisiana Supreme Court overturned the appeals court. It said that a fact finding hearing should determine whether the priest had the duty to report alleged abuse under the state's mandatory reporting law. It noted that Louisiana law requires any mandatory reporter to report suspected abuse &ldquo;notwithstanding any claim of privileged communication.&rdquo; The Louisiana Supreme Court also ruled that under state law the priest-penitent privilege belongs to the penitent, not to the priest, and if the penitent waives the privilege then the priest &ldquo;cannot raise it to protect himself.&rdquo; In September 2014, the diocese characterized the legal issue as something that &ldquo;attacks the seal of confession&rdquo; and an &ldquo;attempt by the plaintiffs to have the court compel testimony from the priest.&rdquo; Thomas McKenna, the president of the San Diego-based group Catholic Action for Faith and Family, also expressed disappointment that the U.S. Supreme Court declined to give a hearing to the question. &ldquo;We had hoped that the Supreme Court would clarify the issue once and for all,&rdquo; said McKenna, whose organization joined several other groups in filing legal briefs in support of the Baton Rouge diocese and the priest. He suggested that the plaintiff attorneys modified their position in response to the briefs and began to voice uncertainty about whether they would call the priest to testify about anything he allegedly heard in confession. &ldquo;That&rsquo;s a success,&rdquo; McKenna said. &ldquo;Because all these briefs were filed, they changed their tone, and that&rsquo;s probably why the Supreme Court didn&rsquo;t accept hearing the case right now.&rdquo; If the plaintiff attorneys do call the priest to testify, he said, &ldquo;we would revisit the case again.&rdquo; However, McKenna warned that the case threatens to advance a significant change in American culture when respect for religious freedom is already on the wane. &ldquo;This is unprecedented in the history of our country,&rdquo; he said, saying that a state supreme court has never before ruled that a priest would have to violate the seal of confession. &ldquo;We have a civil court calling a priest and disregarding his religious perspective, saying that this is a civil matter and we don&rsquo;t care what your religion says. You have to tell us.&rdquo; &ldquo;The state has no right to demand from him that he break his vow. That&rsquo;s what&rsquo;s very concerning and scary,&rdquo; McKenna continued. &ldquo;What you have is the state telling the religion that they have to re-structure and re-order its religion.&rdquo; McKenna encouraged Catholics to pray for Fr. Bayhi.","og_url":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/catholicnews\/2015\/01\/could-a-us-priest-face-jail-for-refusing-to-break-confession-seal\/","og_site_name":"Catholic News","article_published_time":"2015-01-22T00:03:00+00:00","og_image":[{"url":"http:\/\/www.catholicnewsagency.com\/images\/size340\/Confessional_Credit_Angela_Marie_via_Flickr_CC_BY_20_CNA_12_16_14.jpg"}],"author":"CNA Daily News","twitter_card":"summary_large_image","twitter_misc":{"Written by":"CNA Daily News","Est. reading time":"4 minutes"},"schema":{"@context":"https:\/\/schema.org","@graph":[{"@type":"WebPage","@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/catholicnews\/2015\/01\/could-a-us-priest-face-jail-for-refusing-to-break-confession-seal\/","url":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/catholicnews\/2015\/01\/could-a-us-priest-face-jail-for-refusing-to-break-confession-seal\/","name":"Could a US priest face jail for refusing to break confession seal?","isPartOf":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/catholicnews\/#website"},"datePublished":"2015-01-22T00:03:00+00:00","dateModified":"2015-01-22T00:03:00+00:00","author":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/catholicnews\/#\/schema\/person\/35d4bd7addc580050842c844a11575f1"},"description":"Washington D.C., Jan 21, 2015 \/ 05:03 pm (CNA\/EWTN News).- The U.S. Supreme Court has declined to hear a petition from a Louisiana Catholic diocese that fears a civil lawsuit could force a priest to violate the seal of confession or go to jail. The Diocese of Baton Rouge and diocesan priest Father Jeff Bayhi were disappointed by the decision, which the diocese said has &ldquo;significant ramifications for religious freedom in Louisiana and beyond.&rdquo; &ldquo;The diocese and Fr. Bayhi will continue their efforts to protect the guarantees of religious freedom set forth in our state and federal constitutions, and are confident that those efforts will, in due course, be successful,&rdquo; the diocese said in a Jan. 20 statement. The diocese and the priest are considering &ldquo;a number of options&rdquo; for other constitutional challenges in the case. The U.S. Supreme Court has let stand the Louisiana Supreme Court&rsquo;s May 2014 ruling that a court hearing is necessary to determine whether state law protects a priest&rsquo;s conversation during confession with a minor about an alleged sexual abuser in the parish. Catholic priests are bound to observe the seal of confession and cannot not reveal to anyone the contents of a confession or whether a confession took place. Priests who violate the seal are automatically excommunicated. At issue is a civil lawsuit involving a woman who said that in 2008, when she was a minor, she told Fr. Bayhi that she was being abused by a parishioner. The alleged conversation with the priest took place during the Sacrament of Confession. The woman is now in her early 20s. The young woman's family is now suing the priest and the diocese for damages, saying they were negligent in allowing the abuse to continue, The Times-Picayune newspaper reports. The estate of the man who allegedly molested the woman is also named in the suit. The accused man died in 2009. A trial court had denied the diocese's motion to prevent any plaintiffs from testifying about any confessions that may have taken place between the then-minor and the priest. However, a state appeals court had ruled that the alleged confession was legally confidential and that the priest was not a mandatory reporter. Later, the Louisiana Supreme Court overturned the appeals court. It said that a fact finding hearing should determine whether the priest had the duty to report alleged abuse under the state's mandatory reporting law. It noted that Louisiana law requires any mandatory reporter to report suspected abuse &ldquo;notwithstanding any claim of privileged communication.&rdquo; The Louisiana Supreme Court also ruled that under state law the priest-penitent privilege belongs to the penitent, not to the priest, and if the penitent waives the privilege then the priest &ldquo;cannot raise it to protect himself.&rdquo; In September 2014, the diocese characterized the legal issue as something that &ldquo;attacks the seal of confession&rdquo; and an &ldquo;attempt by the plaintiffs to have the court compel testimony from the priest.&rdquo; Thomas McKenna, the president of the San Diego-based group Catholic Action for Faith and Family, also expressed disappointment that the U.S. Supreme Court declined to give a hearing to the question. &ldquo;We had hoped that the Supreme Court would clarify the issue once and for all,&rdquo; said McKenna, whose organization joined several other groups in filing legal briefs in support of the Baton Rouge diocese and the priest. He suggested that the plaintiff attorneys modified their position in response to the briefs and began to voice uncertainty about whether they would call the priest to testify about anything he allegedly heard in confession. &ldquo;That&rsquo;s a success,&rdquo; McKenna said. &ldquo;Because all these briefs were filed, they changed their tone, and that&rsquo;s probably why the Supreme Court didn&rsquo;t accept hearing the case right now.&rdquo; If the plaintiff attorneys do call the priest to testify, he said, &ldquo;we would revisit the case again.&rdquo; However, McKenna warned that the case threatens to advance a significant change in American culture when respect for religious freedom is already on the wane. &ldquo;This is unprecedented in the history of our country,&rdquo; he said, saying that a state supreme court has never before ruled that a priest would have to violate the seal of confession. &ldquo;We have a civil court calling a priest and disregarding his religious perspective, saying that this is a civil matter and we don&rsquo;t care what your religion says. You have to tell us.&rdquo; &ldquo;The state has no right to demand from him that he break his vow. That&rsquo;s what&rsquo;s very concerning and scary,&rdquo; McKenna continued. &ldquo;What you have is the state telling the religion that they have to re-structure and re-order its religion.&rdquo; McKenna encouraged Catholics to pray for Fr. Bayhi.","breadcrumb":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/catholicnews\/2015\/01\/could-a-us-priest-face-jail-for-refusing-to-break-confession-seal\/#breadcrumb"},"inLanguage":"en-US","potentialAction":[{"@type":"ReadAction","target":["https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/catholicnews\/2015\/01\/could-a-us-priest-face-jail-for-refusing-to-break-confession-seal\/"]}]},{"@type":"BreadcrumbList","@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/catholicnews\/2015\/01\/could-a-us-priest-face-jail-for-refusing-to-break-confession-seal\/#breadcrumb","itemListElement":[{"@type":"ListItem","position":1,"name":"Home","item":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/catholicnews\/"},{"@type":"ListItem","position":2,"name":"Could a US priest face jail for refusing to break confession seal?"}]},{"@type":"WebSite","@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/catholicnews\/#website","url":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/catholicnews\/","name":"Catholic News","description":"","potentialAction":[{"@type":"SearchAction","target":{"@type":"EntryPoint","urlTemplate":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/catholicnews\/?s={search_term_string}"},"query-input":"required name=search_term_string"}],"inLanguage":"en-US"},{"@type":"Person","@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/catholicnews\/#\/schema\/person\/35d4bd7addc580050842c844a11575f1","name":"CNA Daily News","image":{"@type":"ImageObject","inLanguage":"en-US","@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/catholicnews\/#\/schema\/person\/image\/","url":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/8f1180c7dca7995d4a997aac72a3a88a?s=96&d=mm&r=g","contentUrl":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/8f1180c7dca7995d4a997aac72a3a88a?s=96&d=mm&r=g","caption":"CNA Daily News"},"sameAs":["http:\/\/www.catholicnewsagency.com\/"],"url":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/catholicnews\/author\/cna-daily-news\/"}]}},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/catholicnews\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9515","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/catholicnews\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/catholicnews\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/catholicnews\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1031"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/catholicnews\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=9515"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/catholicnews\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9515\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/catholicnews\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=9515"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/catholicnews\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=9515"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/catholicnews\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=9515"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}