{"id":22826,"date":"2012-06-27T07:38:57","date_gmt":"2012-06-27T12:38:57","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.christandpopculture.com\/?p=22826"},"modified":"2013-04-01T09:05:23","modified_gmt":"2013-04-01T15:05:23","slug":"sex-thrones-four-christian-views-on-sex-in-the-game-of-thrones","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/christandpopculture\/2012\/06\/sex-thrones-four-christian-views-on-sex-in-the-game-of-thrones\/","title":{"rendered":"Sex &#038; Thrones: Four Christian Views on Sex in &#8220;Game of Thrones&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><figure id=\"attachment_32572\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-32572\" style=\"width: 640px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-32572\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Image Credit: Seth Hahne<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p><p>There are two things you should know about\u00a0<em>Game of Thrones\u00a0<\/em>(otherwise known as the epic fantasy series,\u00a0<em>A Song of Ice and Fire<\/em>). It is among the best epic fantasy stories ever written (sorry,\u00a0<em>Wheel of Time<\/em>) and it is for \u201cmature\u201d readers\/viewers only, really.<\/p>\n<p>Ever since HBO\u00a0premiered their adaptation of the first novel last April, the popularity of the series has grown tremendously. The first episode of Season One attracted 2.2 million viewers (<a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Game_of_Thrones_(season_1)\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Wiki<\/a>). By the season finale of the second season, the show had nearly doubled its viewers at 4.2 million. The adaptation also sent the novels up the\u00a0<em>New York Times\u00a0<\/em>bestsellers list for paperback fiction, and at the beginning of 2011, the series had sold 4.5 million books (<a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/A_Song_of_Ice_and_Fire#Sales\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Wiki<\/a>). And with good cause.<\/p>\n<p>Where most epic fantasy succeeds on how interesting the lore is, Martin\u2019s stories are captivating because his characters are so interesting. Martin\u2019s world is filled with psychologically complex, broken, mortal, very-human characters. They feel far less like epic heroes and more like pathetic souls who are tossed into epic situations.\u00a0In portraying their humanity in all its ugliness, Martin includes many, very sexually explicit scenes, but, as our own Jason Morehead note in his introduction to the series, \u201cthe sex and violence are not gratuitous, exploitative, or titillating. Especially in the case of the sexual content, Martin rightfully portrays it as disgusting and perverted, for it is often not an expression of love, trust, and intimacy, but rather, yet another tool for achieving and maintaining power.\u201d (For more, see\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.christandpopculture.com\/featured\/winter-is-coming-an-introduction-to-game-of-thrones\/\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Winter Is Coming: An Introduction to \u201cGame of Thrones\u201d<\/a>)<\/p>\n<p>This mature content raises some questions for Christian readers and viewers: is this edifying to read or watch? Can I see or read this in good conscience? It\u2019s also important to question the ideas and ideals that are promoted in the story. How is sex treated in the books? What does it say about love, human intimacy, beauty, procreation, etc?<\/p>\n<p>In light of the tremendous popularity of the series and the pressing questions it raises for believers, we asked several of our writers who have read the books or watched the TV series to explore how sex is treated in\u00a0<em>A Song of Ice and Fire<\/em>. What follows are four Christian perspectives on sex in the series. The differences between these perspectives demonstrates how complex the process of discernment can be and the value of communal dialogue about these issues. We hope that through these perspectives you might be encouraged to think critically about how sex is portrayed in the series and how Christians might react.<\/p>\n<h3>Carissa Smith: \u201cGlorifying Rape\u201d (HBO Series)<\/h3>\n<figure id=\"attachment_22907\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-22907\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-22907\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Khal Drogo and Daenerys Targaryen<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>I spent months eagerly anticipating the arrival of our first\u00a0<em>Game of Thrones<\/em>\u00a0disc from Netflix; I spent approximately 70 minutes watching it before stuffing the disc back into its envelope and returning it, unfinished, to the mailbox. This was a big deal for me: the law written on my doorpost since childhood is that I must finish anything I begin. What would cause me to violate this moral imperative? In large part, the depiction of sex in\u00a0<em>Game of Thrones<\/em>\u00a0(the other, even more influential, factor was impending animal death, but that\u2019s another issue). \u00a0Up to a certain point, the gratuitous nudity and exclusively doggie-style sexual positions just made me laugh, because they contributed nothing whatsoever artistically and were clearly there just to make the show \u201cedgy\u201d (AKA trying too hard). The sickening turning point for me came when, after several scenes depicting marital rape of Daenerys Targaryen by her husband Khal Drogo, Daenerys suddenly gains curiosity about how to please a man. Cue her tutoring in the ways of love by one of her serving maids. The lesbian overtones of the scene and its blatant pandering to classic porn scenarios would also have merely provoked a derisive snort from me, if it weren\u2019t for the sinister underlying message that rape turns out okay if the woman just learns to enjoy it, a message borne out in the next sex scene between Daenerys and Drogo. I felt physically ill at this point and almost ejected the DVD right then and there. I should have. While some might argue that\u00a0<em>Game of Thrones<\/em>\u00a0is merely showing Daenerys taking charge within the limited options available to her, I don\u2019t buy it. There\u2019s no way around the fact that the show glorifies a woman\u2019s education into the \u201cjoys\u201d of rape, and that\u2019s inexcusable.<\/p>\n<h3>Luke Larson: \u201cFantasy Feminism\u201d (HBO Series)<\/h3>\n<figure id=\"attachment_22906\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-22906\" style=\"width: 225px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-22906\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Cersei Baratheon<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>I suppose it goes without saying that whenever I recommend <em>Game of Thrones<\/em> to someone I know, it always comes with a staunch warning. And it\u2019s not the kind of warning that comes lightly \u2014 there would be plenty of reasons to avoid the show, even if you were to cut out the copious amounts of female nudity and sex. But the show\u2019s relationship with feminism is an interesting one that the its received a lot criticism for. After all, not only does the show display female nudity in almost every episode, it also puts women in positions of societal submission to power-hungry men and the things they desire.<\/p>\n<p>I was talking to a co-worker of mine who is a big fan of the show the other day and we were sharing other shows that we were into. Surprisingly, when I asked her if she liked <em>Mad Men<\/em>, she quickly responded saying that she just couldn\u2019t watch that show because of its negative portrayal of women. Despite the incredibly strong female characters and the fact the show is written almost entirely by women, <em>Mad Men<\/em>\u2018s portrayal of women\u2019s struggle for equality still hit a little too close to home for my co-worker. (Also see:\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.christandpopculture.com\/featured\/the-suicide-of-character-in-mad-men\/\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">The Suicide of Character in Mad Men<\/a>)<\/p>\n<p>Maybe <em>Game of Thrones<\/em>\u2018 fantasy setting allows some people to relate more to characters like Daenerys Targaryen\u00a0or Arya Stark. It\u2019s not that I think more people need to suck it up and watch the show. Unlike a lot of shows I have really enjoyed in the past, I am not a <em>Game of Thrones\u00a0<\/em>evangelist. However, if you can stomach the show\u2019s gritty portrayal of reality, there is wealth of issues the show has been able to address with stunning \u00a0intrigue \u2014 gender roles and sexuality included. (Also see Luke\u2019s column,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.christandpopculture.com\/asides\/the-televangelists-game-of-thrones-and-the-postmagic-world\/\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">The Televangelists: Game of Thrones and the Postmagic World<\/a>)<\/p>\n<h3>Brad Williams: \u201cSex without Love\u201d (Novels)<\/h3>\n<figure id=\"attachment_22908\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-22908\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-22908\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Starks<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>If I could describe the\u00a0<em>Song of Ice and Fire\u00a0<\/em>series in one word it would be \u201cdespair.\u201d That is the over-riding emotion that this series left me with as I soldiered through the five published novels in the span of about two weeks. A good novel, no matter what kind of fiction it is, should strike a chord with the reality in which we live or else the work will not move us. One of the subjects that caused me to despair is how Martin handled sex, and I think that a look at this topic can give an overall idea of why the series itself moves me to despair. Sex in the book is depicted quite crudely, as almost revolting, and sometimes even animalistic. In Scripture, sex is not merely for pleasure and procreation; it is a union of profound intimacy where two become one. The only married couple in the book that have something close to a loving relationship, the Starks, have children who are themselves \u201cwargs,\u201d which are people who can connect to the mind of beasts. Interestingly, the most \u2018loving\u2019 family in the series also has the ability to dominate the animal world, perhaps making them less bestial in their personal relations as well?<\/p>\n<p>But even in conceding this one example of a \u201cloving\u201d family, there is little real love in this series. I do not mean that some characters aren\u2019t infatuated with one another, or even care for one another, rather they can never become truly intimate, and this is evident in the sexual relationships. Even Jon Snow\u2019s lover continues to tell him over and over, \u201cYou know nothing, Jon Snow.\u201d All of the characters remain disconnected, distant, and unfulfilled in their relationships. That makes for a cold, lonely world. In death, the dead remain as a sort of spectral presence. It seems, at times, that they are trying to connect with the living, trying to help perhaps, yet even in death they seem doomed to frustration in being distant from their loved ones. For those who remain, the spirits are an intimidating presence, not evoking a sense of comfort and love, but generally unease and fear. The baseness of sex in Martin\u2019s book reflects the reality of life in his world, it is fleeting, primal, and nearly devoid of any loving intimacy.<\/p>\n<h3>Alan Noble: \u201cImpoverished Intercourse\u201d (Novels)<\/h3>\n<p>When I got to the first few sex scenes in\u00a0<em>Game of Thrones<\/em>, I was surprised at how graphic and detailed they were. There is a focus on the physicality, the materiality of the act, which contributes to its \u201canimalistic\u201d tone. Yet. somehow, Martin manages to describe passionate, wild sex in a way feels both dirty and petty.<\/p>\n<p>The scenes are detailed, but not really alluring. And I suspect that they are not alluring precisely because Martin does such a crack job of describing the physical and physiological aspects of sexual intercourse. It is\u00a0<em>merely\u00a0<\/em>an intense, physical act with accompanying\u00a0hormonal\u00a0reactions. But part of the beauty of sex is its incommunicability. You can\u2019t really get at the intimacy, the significance, the beauty of sex by describing what goes where and how good it feels. The result of Martin\u2019s writing is an impoverished vision of sex, one which is base, material, and purely biological.<\/p>\n<p>As I progressed in the novels and the sex scenes kept appearing, I went from surprise over Martin\u2019s candor to annoyance and having to slog through these tedious passages. How can you make kinky sex tedious? Treat it as a biological function.<\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s where things have gotten difficult for me. Just because these scenes are tedious and the sex is impoverished does not mean that Martin has failed at his craft or that these passages don\u2019t contribute meaningfully to the themes of the series. As <a href=\"http:\/\/www.christandpopculture.com\/featured\/winter-is-coming-an-introduction-to-game-of-thrones\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Jason Morehead has already argued<\/a>, \u201cMartin rightfully portrays [sex] as disgusting and perverted, for it is often not an expression of love, trust, and intimacy, but rather, yet another tool for achieving and maintaining power.\u201d In that a major theme of the series is human depravity, cruelty, and brokenness, it is appropriate that one of the most sacred and beautiful experiences in life should be depraved, cruel, and broken.<\/p>\n<p>Of course, even if the explicit sex scenes do contribute to the themes of the series, that still doesn\u2019t make them less tedious or explicit. For me, this means that I\u2019ll be skipping as many of these passages as I can, since I think I\u2019ve already gotten the message. And since I am more affected by visual images than written ones, I don\u2019t plan to watch the HBO series.<\/p>\n<p><em>Join the discussion! How do you think Martin treats sex in the series?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Illustration courtesy of\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/#%21\/sethhahne\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Seth T. Hahne<\/a>. Check out his graphic novel and comic review site,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/goodokbad.com\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Good Ok Bad<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Four Christ and Pop Culture writers look at the way George R.R. 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