{"id":1353,"date":"2012-02-25T17:07:53","date_gmt":"2012-02-25T17:07:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/christianpiatt\/?p=1353"},"modified":"2012-02-25T18:14:11","modified_gmt":"2012-02-25T18:14:11","slug":"john-piper-hates-on-gays-via-twitter","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/christianpiatt\/2012\/02\/john-piper-hates-on-gays-via-twitter\/","title":{"rendered":"John Piper Hates on Gays via Twitter"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>It\u2019s bad enough when Christians sit silently by while LGBTQ (Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender and Queer) folks are marginalized, ridiculed, abused, raped or even killed for who they are.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s another when Christians actively engage in the exclusion of people based on their identity or orientation.<\/p>\n<p>And then there\u2019s John Piper.<\/p>\n<p>It seems Piper has a Twitter problem. Maybe he doesn\u2019t see it as such, because with less than 140 characters, he can stir up quite a storm of controversy. But but considering the damage that can be done with so few words, I consider it a problem.<\/p>\n<p>First, there was the now-famous \u201cFarewell, Rob Bell\u201d tweet, basically bidding the bestselling author adieu when his book, \u201cLove Wins,\u201d dared to suggest that God\u2019s love was big enough to ensure salvation for all.<\/p>\n<p>Today, Piper decided to get specific about his disdain for members of the LGBTQ community and all Christians who affirm them by tweeting the following:<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe church that approves of homosexual relations has by that act ceased to be a true church. Wolfhart Pannenberg\u201d<\/p>\n<p>When I told my wife, Rev. Amy Piatt, what he posted, she suggested we shouldn\u2019t even care what he says. He\u2019s a voice of intolerance whose ignorance should be dismissed. Though she and I see eye to eye on most things, we differ on this one.<\/p>\n<p>First of all, he has more than 250,000 followers on Twitter. And of course with the viral nature of social media, his reach is much broader than that. Second, he\u2019s considered a prominent voice for conservative Christianity, sought and quoted often by the media. As such, he always seems ready to help reinforce the stereotype that Christians are narrow-minded, bigoted, hateful people who are more interested in being right and morally superior than they are in loving and serving their brothers and sisters.<\/p>\n<p>Thankfully there are other, if not so prominent, voices out there to counter the intolerance. As an example, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wesleyf.org\/-roger-wolsey-wesley-pastor.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Roger Wolsey<\/a>, a pastor, posted the following concise but clear message on Youtube:<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"420\" height=\"315\" src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/_3qS2WkAfXM\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Though it would be great if one affirming voice counterbalanced the negativity of another, but the net is still negative, I\u2019m afraid. Some may hear the apology on behalf of Christianity. Some may even hear the claim that Piper\u2019s brand of Christianity is not representative of all of us. LGBTQ people may be welcomed back to the table, time and again, but damage already has been done.<\/p>\n<p>My friend, <a href=\"http:\/\/matthewpaulturner.net\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Matthew Paul Turner<\/a>, posted a video recently from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jameslangteaux.com\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">James Alexander Langteaux<\/a>, author of \u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Gay-Conversations-God-Straight-Fanatics\/dp\/1844095827\/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1330189359&amp;sr=8-1\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Gay Conversations With God<\/a>,\u201d that points to the fallout from such divisive rhetoric. <\/p>\n<p>Be forewarned that this video does contain some frank, explicit language. So if you choose not to view it, the essence of what he says is that too many Christians do not seem to embody the values of the Christ they claim. And so, if this is what religion is about, we don\u2019t want anything more to do with it.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"http:\/\/player.vimeo.com\/video\/36036460?title=0&amp;byline=0&amp;portrait=0\" width=\"400\" height=\"300\" frameborder=\"0\" webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/vimeo.com\/36036460\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">The Foreskin<\/a> from <a href=\"http:\/\/vimeo.com\/user3297916\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">stu ehr<\/a> on <a href=\"http:\/\/vimeo.com\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Vimeo<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>I certainly can understand Langteaux\u2019s pain and inclination to distance himself from a body that seems intent on making him \u201cless than.\u201d But I\u2019m not content to sit back and let such voices occupy the floor while dissenters say and do nothing. <\/p>\n<p>John Piper is wrong. His words cause damage. And though I could never go as far as he does to claim that his bigotry means he\u2019s not actually a Christian, I strongly believe he has strayed far from the path laid before us by Jesus himself.<\/p>\n<p>The only true antidote to divisive rhetoric ultimately is face-to-face relationship. So my hope is that those who read this post will not just appreciate it, comment on it or even share it; my prayer is that it is the impetus readers need to go out and find someone (or many someones) hurt and marginalized by some parts of the church and talk to them about their hurt. Offer a compassionate ear in return, and if accepted, a warm embrace. <\/p>\n<p>We can prevail in this clash of ideals. But the revolution will not be realized entirely from behind a microphone. One person, one relationship, one story at a time, we have to continue to believe that Rob Bell was right.<\/p>\n<p>LOVE WINS. <\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It\u2019s bad enough when Christians sit silently by while LGBTQ (Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender and Queer) folks are marginalized, ridiculed, abused, raped or even killed for who they are. It\u2019s another when Christians actively engage in the exclusion of people based on their identity or orientation. And then there\u2019s John Piper. 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