{"id":900,"date":"2012-04-24T07:00:11","date_gmt":"2012-04-24T12:00:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/christophers\/?p=900"},"modified":"2012-04-25T08:45:41","modified_gmt":"2012-04-25T13:45:41","slug":"a-journey-through-the-bible-part-1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/christophers\/2012\/04\/a-journey-through-the-bible-part-1\/","title":{"rendered":"A Journey Through the Bible: Part 1"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/121\/2012\/04\/TimGray2.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/121\/2012\/04\/TimGray2-204x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"TimGray2\" width=\"204\" height=\"300\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-906\"><\/a>A lot of people have questions about different parts of the Bible.  For instance, Isn\u2019t Genesis just another creation myth? Why does God seem angry and vengeful in the Old Testament, but loving and merciful in the New Testament?  Does Eve being created from Adam\u2019s rib mean the Bible is saying that women are inferior to men?  Why does God ask Abraham to sacrifice Isaac?<\/p>\n<p>Dr. Tim Gray, the author of \u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Walking-With-God-Journey-through\/dp\/1934217891\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Walking with God: A Journey Through the Bible<\/a>,\u201d answered some of those questions when I interviewed him on \u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/www.christophers.org\/closeuppodcast\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Christopher Closeup<\/a>\u201d a while back. Dr. Gray is known for his partnership with Jeff Cavins in the popular \u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/biblestudyforcatholics.com\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Great Adventure Bible Timeline<\/a>\u201d series.  He is also making sacred Scripture relatable and relevant through his work as president of the Augustine Institute in Denver.  Here are some excerpts from our interview:<\/p>\n<p>TR: I\u2019ve started reading more commentaries about Genesis because that\u2019s the point where many agnostics or atheists reject Christianity, saying that the creation story of Adam and Eve has been disproved.  But books like \u201cWalking with God\u201d demonstrate that they\u2019re approaching the creation story with the wrong mindset.  When we read that story today, what are some factors we should keep in mind?<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/121\/2012\/04\/TimGray.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/121\/2012\/04\/TimGray.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"TimGray\" width=\"159\" height=\"159\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-901\"><\/a>Tim Gray: The first thing is having a good historical and cultural handle on what we\u2019re reading.  When modern people pick it up and think in terms of science and they hear that on day one, light was created but on day four, you have the sun, the moon and the stars \u2013 they say, \u2018That\u2019s ridiculous.\u2019  What we think of as primitive people, they weren\u2019t that dumb.  What they\u2019ve done in the creation story is written a poem.  It\u2019s a beautiful poem that parallels the days \u2013 Day One parallels Day Four.  If you understand the poetry and the parallelism that\u2019s set up there, it changes your whole reading of the text.  That\u2019s crucial.  A lot of people cynically don\u2019t appreciate the kind of literature that Genesis One is.<\/p>\n<p>TR: There are numerous creation myths throughout history.  What separates Genesis from the pack?<\/p>\n<p>Tim Gray: A lot of people think of the Bible and the Christian story as just another myth.  That\u2019s not the case at all.  When you really know the ancient mythologies that were going around the near East, you see that Genesis is really a polemic against the mythology of the ancient near Eastern people.  For example, it\u2019s showing you that God creates out of nothing whereas in the Enuma Elish and other near Eastern creation myths, you have a goddess getting sliced in half.  The heavens are made out of one half of her body, the oceans are made out of the other half of her body.  You\u2019re at a radically different level of an account of creation from the pagans to the Israelites.<\/p>\n<p>TR: One is created out of love, the other out of violence so it is a big difference.<\/p>\n<p>Tim Gray: It is.  That actually goes back to one of the things that struck me the most.  In a lot of the creation stories in the ancient near East as well as in the Indo-European people, they thought the gods were hostile to humanity.  And the gods thought the biggest problem was overpopulation.  In a lot of mythology, the reason for the Trojan War is that Zeus and the gods felt that there were too many people.  What you get in the creation account of the Jews is radically different.  You have a God who says, \u201cBe fruitful and multiply.\u201d  He blesses humanity, he wants them to multiply.  God loves humanity.  So it\u2019s interesting when you look at some of the ancient myths and their hostility between the gods and humanity, it\u2019s the kind of cultural problems we face today where people think there\u2019s too many people and there\u2019s a hostility to life.<\/p>\n<p>TR: What was the pagan culture like in which the ancient Jewish people lived \u2013 and what pagan customs had incorporated their way into the Jewish lifestyle?<\/p>\n<p>Tim Gray: You\u2019ve got several.  You\u2019ve got Israel that\u2019s coming out of Babylonian captivity but you also have Israel that\u2019s come out of Egypt.  For the Egyptians, pharaoh and his queen are children of god, made in the image and likeness of god.  What the Hebrews do is show that, when God creates, he creates everybody in the <em>imago Dei<\/em>, everybody has this incredible dignity, they\u2019re stamped with the divine imprint \u2013 and that radically changes the account.  Before there was a very rare class of people who had the full privileges and rights.  Now what the Hebrews have done is democratized this divine right.  That\u2019s what I think is so fascinating.  When people read the Biblical story and what we\u2019re trying to do in \u2018Walking with God,\u2019 they see this ancient story has all kinds of modern implications.<\/p>\n<p>TR: God in the Old Testament seems vengeful, and sometimes even seems like He\u2019s endorsing capital punishment and slaughter.  Why do we have such a view of God in the Old Testament and why is it not really correct?<\/p>\n<p>Tim Gray: There\u2019s a lot of misconceptions about the Old Testament.  First off, people tell me \u2018I don\u2019t like reading the Old Testament because it\u2019s got all this violence and scandals and things.\u2019  The Old Testament is messy because humanity is messy.  As the Church Fathers said, God has to come down to our level and try to bring us back up.  Look at the newspapers. There\u2019s violence today, constant violence.  The violence and the bloodshed in the Bible is there because that\u2019s the way humanity is \u2013 and the Bible gives us the reason that humanity\u2019s that way.  The second thing is that there\u2019s often a misconception of what God is doing in the Old Testament.  There\u2019s a lot of misconceptions about <em>herem<\/em> warfare for example.  One of the things we try to tackle in \u2018Walking with God\u2019 is, \u2018Why is there violence in the Bible and what\u2019s God\u2019s role in that?\u2019  It\u2019s much different than what most people think\u2026<\/p>\n<p>The Church Fathers had a sense of how God comes down to the level of Israel.  Through better narrative analysis and through growing in wisdom, we can see a little bit more clearly.  Jesus says, when they ask about divorce, He says divorce isn\u2019t what God originally wanted.  The rabbis are surprised and say \u2018Why did Moses tell us we could do this?\u2019  Jesus responds, \u2018It\u2019s the hardness of your hearts.\u2019  That law about divorce which is in Deuteronomy is also saying that there\u2019s things in Deuteronomy that weren\u2019t God\u2019s plan, that were concessions Moses allowed, now Jesus is going to tighten things up a bit.  <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/christophers\/2012\/04\/a-journey-through-the-bible-part-2\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Click here for Part 2<\/a> of the Dr. Tim Gray interview.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A lot of people have questions about different parts of the Bible. For instance, Isn\u2019t Genesis just another creation myth? Why does God seem angry and vengeful in the Old Testament, but loving and merciful in the New Testament? 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