{"id":668,"date":"2013-06-22T12:39:24","date_gmt":"2013-06-22T19:39:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/cosmostheinlost.wordpress.com\/?p=668"},"modified":"2013-06-22T12:39:24","modified_gmt":"2013-06-22T19:39:24","slug":"colm-toibins-regensburg-moment-macauleys-catholic-dissidents","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/cosmostheinlost\/2013\/06\/22\/colm-toibins-regensburg-moment-macauleys-catholic-dissidents\/","title":{"rendered":"Colm Toibin&#039;s Regensburg Moment &amp; Macauley&#039;s Catholic Dissidents"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><div id=\"article_body\">\n<figure id=\"attachment_721\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-721\" style=\"width: 576px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/455\/2013\/06\/576px-stpeter_regensburg.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-721\" alt=\"576px-StPeter_Regensburg\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/455\/2013\/06\/576px-stpeter_regensburg.jpg\" width=\"576\" height=\"768\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-721\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Regensburg solid.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Colm T\u00f3ib\u00edn\u2019s <em>The Sign of the Cross: Travels in Catholic Europe\u00a0<\/em>is a real treat. \u00a0There\u2019s nothing like seeing the familiar, in this case Catholicism, from an eccentric standpoint. \u00a0It\u2019s a roller-coaster ride where the memoirist \u00a0simultaneously plays the role of Catholic insider and outsider. \u00a0T\u00f3ib\u00edn frequently rubs me the wrong way with his pronouncements about Polish Catholicism (which I partially registered <a title=\"On the Legacy of Solidarity.  \" href=\"http:\/\/cosmostheinlost.wordpress.com\/2013\/06\/19\/one-more-nortre-dame-book-onand-the-legacy-of-solidarity\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">here<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>His speculation that John Paul II would not even know how to fathom the profound depths of Bultmannian demythologization in the watered-down secondhand version T\u00f3ib\u00edn\u00a0got from the <a title=\"Gombro!\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Henryk_Sienkiewicz#Recognition\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">first-rate second-rate<\/a> theologian Norbert Brox is (hopefully) unintentionally comical. \u00a0Note the <a title=\"Mistress of Cath-bathos.  You've been a very naughty bishop!\" href=\"http:\/\/topics.nytimes.com\/top\/opinion\/editorialsandoped\/oped\/columnists\/maureendowd\/index.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Dowdish<\/a> bathos (again, comedy?) when he obliquely references <em>Hamlet<\/em> in \u00a0his evaluation of Brox vs. Wojtyla:<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt struck me that these new ideas [of gnostic provenance, only about 1900 years older than\u00a0<a title=\"The basics.\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Rudolf_Bultmann#Beliefs_regarding_Jesus\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Bultmann<\/a>\u00a0(my own interjection)] were being fostered once more in the fertility of the German mind, and were so far from what is dreamed of in John Paul II\u2019s philosophy that he probably would not know how to counteract them.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>These revelations are usually followed in the memoir by serious (<a title=\"Know what ah mean?\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=4Kwh3R0YjuQ\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">wink, wink, nudge, nudge<\/a>) reluctance to submit to Catholic discipline and mysteriously combined with mind-numbingly uncritical acceptance of <a title=\"Shout. Let it all out.\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=bzPRX0vjeVU\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Primal Scream <\/a>therapy along with a heavy dose of ketamine.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m having too much fun here, but he does get serious and insightful:<\/p>\n<p>\u201c\u2018Protestants one, Catholics nil,\u2019 I said to myself as I went to midnight Mass the following evening in the Catholic cathedral in Regensburg. But then I thought about it: they won on music and sheer, solemn style, and their churches were charming and pretty and neat. But their churches were small. Our Catholic cathedral in Regensburg, on the other hand, was a big soaring, shadowy Gothic structure, by far the most imposing building in the city. \u00a0They had Bach; we had <a title=\"More on the Regensburg cathedral.\" href=\"http:\/\/www.sacred-destinations.com\/germany\/regensburg-cathedral\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">buttressing<\/a>.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>[Video courtesy of Fr. Joseph Koczera, SJ who runs a respectable and noteworthy blog \u201cThe City and the World.\u201d \u00a0Give it a spin <a title=\"Jesuit Joe\" href=\"http:\/\/jesuitjoe.blogspot.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">here<\/a>.]<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Bach - St. John Passion BWV 245 (Masaaki Suzuki, 2000) - 12\/12\" width=\"500\" height=\"375\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/TD5N0Ubpvns?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<p>The solidity of the popish institutional buttressing came into sharp focus in yet another great column by Philip Jenkins, <a title=\"Jenkins at his best.\" href=\"http:\/\/www.realclearreligion.org\/articles\/2013\/04\/01\/macaulays_catholic_dissidents.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cMacaulay\u2019s Catholic Dissenters\u201d<\/a> over at <a title=\"The place to get your religion news.\" href=\"http:\/\/www.realclearreligion.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Real Clear Religion<\/a>. \u00a0 Borrowing heavily from Macauley\u2019s review of <a title=\"Father of modern historiography who saw history presenting the past as it was.\" href=\"http:\/\/www.umass.edu\/wsp\/history\/ranke\/index.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\">von Ranke\u2019s<\/a> book on the popes, Jenkins notes <a title=\"They even did it to the pagans. Dang.\" href=\"http:\/\/cosmostheinlost.wordpress.com\/2013\/06\/20\/pagan-symbols-and-the-coming-christianity\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Rome\u2019s effectiveness in flexibly absorbing and directing<\/a> the energies of eccentric figures and movements in ways Protestantism doesn\u2019t:<\/p>\n<p>\u201cMacaulay notes that Christianity inevitably inspires great thinkers and activists, what we might call spiritual entrepreneurs. The enthusiasm of such individuals can make them hard to live with, and institutions find it very difficult to keep them within reasonable bounds. As these people know, absolutely, that they are serving God, they see no point in following merely human instructions. Inevitably, charismatic or prophetic individuals often desert their former institutions to set up new churches, sects or denominations, and that process has recurred frequently within the Protestant tradition. In fact, it is a trademark of that tradition.<\/p>\n<p>The Catholic Church, in contrast, has always shown its ability to absorb an <a title=\"Liberation theology goes from dissident to mainline.\" href=\"http:\/\/scottdodge.blogspot.com\/2013\/06\/liberation-theology-war-that-never-was.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">amazing range of dissidents<\/a>. Its inclusive powers are not absolute \u2014 witness Martin Luther, and the various spiritual leaders condemned as heretics throughout the years. But in countless cases, the church succeeded. The Catholic genius was to provide means to absorb and channel virtually any form of charisma or inspired spirituality, while at the same time presenting itself as an unchanging and even inflexible hierarchical institution,<em> semper eadem<\/em>\u2013always the same. We think how the wild, anarchic, spirituality of St. Francis was channeled and disciplined into the Franciscan Order. Eventually, even a pope would take his name.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>On the eve of the 500th anniversary of the Reformation (2017) Jenkins has the following to say to his Protestant colleagues:<\/p>\n<p>\u201cMacaulay\u2019s vision [of Catholicism] could offer a practical recipe for modern-day churches contemplating how to survive and flourish in apparently impossible circumstances.<\/p>\n<p>Not that this is new, but the formulation is striking. \u00a0Many Protestants have been moving toward a rapprochement with Rome ever since the pathbreaking pontificate of John Paul II. \u00a0This is evidenced by initiatives like <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Evangelicals_and_Catholics_Together\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Evangelicals and Catholics Together<\/a>, or the intellectually vibrant Anglican and Roman Catholic scholarly cooperation under the banner of <a href=\"http:\/\/theologyphilosophycentre.co.uk\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Radical Orthodoxy<\/a>. \u00a0There are also many recent instances of Protestant intellectuals crossing the Tiber, among them, Christian Smith (the sociologist), Paul J. Griffiths, and Reinhard Hutter.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_729\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-729\" style=\"width: 462px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/455\/2013\/06\/homealone640.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-729 \" alt=\"Get it?\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/455\/2013\/06\/homealone640.jpg\" width=\"462\" height=\"260\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-729\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Get it?<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>This institutional flexibility is the best example of Hegel\u2019s most famous concept,\u00a0<a title=\"The fertility of the German mind on display.\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Aufheben\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\"><em>Aufhebung<\/em><\/a>, that I can think of. \u00a0What a great historical irony given how Hegel saw Catholicism as but a stage on the way to universal Protestant individualism!<\/p>\n<p>Yet a Chrome browser auto-correct reminds me that indeed some things are necessarily rejected in the dialectic. Whenever I try to type \u201csyncretism\u201d into this very blog entry it gets a red underlining. The suggested replacement is, get this, \u201ccretinism.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>So perhaps Alasdair MacIntyre is a necessary supplement to what I\u2019ve been saying here? In this video he reminds us that Catholicism always defines itself as being an alternative to, \u201cinstead of,\u201d some other movement. The most famous example is Augustine who chose Catholic Christianity instead of continued adherence to neo-Platonic gnosticism. A more recent example is pope Francis continuing the severe critiques of capitalism of his two predecessors by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.reuters.com\/article\/2013\/05\/21\/us-pope-capitalism-idUSBRE94K12K20130521\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">presenting Catholicism as an alternative<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 13px;line-height: 19px\">Here is MacIntyre:<\/span><\/p>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=j7WWMkIOlsw\">http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=j7WWMkIOlsw<\/a>\n<p>And so in the end . . . \u201cLet me tell you, I stand with two-thousand years of darkness and bafflement and hunger behind me. My kind have harvested the souls of a million peasants! And I couldn\u2019t give a [rat\u2019s ass] for your Internet-assembled philosophy!\u201d Check out the whole \u201cEvil Vicar\u201d clip below:<\/p>\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"That Mitchell and Webb Look - Evil Vicar\" width=\"500\" height=\"375\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/yRujuE-GIY4?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Colm T\u00f3ib\u00edn\u2019s The Sign of the Cross: Travels in Catholic Europe\u00a0is a real treat. \u00a0There\u2019s nothing like seeing the familiar, in this case Catholicism, from an eccentric standpoint. \u00a0It\u2019s a roller-coaster ride where the memoirist \u00a0simultaneously plays the role of Catholic insider and outsider. \u00a0T\u00f3ib\u00edn frequently rubs me the wrong way with his pronouncements about [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1974,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[9,42],"tags":[77,174,1903,177,183,228,675,699,771,807],"class_list":["post-668","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-catholic","category-protestant","tag-alasdair-macintyre","tag-catherine-pickstock","tag-catholic","tag-catholic-church","tag-catholicism","tag-colm-toibin","tag-philip-jenkins","tag-pope-john-paul-ii","tag-rome","tag-sign-of-the-cross"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Colm Toibin&#039;s Regensburg Moment &amp; 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