{"id":1082,"date":"2016-01-15T09:48:00","date_gmt":"2016-01-15T09:48:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/daffeythoughts\/2016\/01\/superior-by-catholic.html"},"modified":"2016-01-15T09:48:00","modified_gmt":"2016-01-15T09:48:00","slug":"superior-by-catholic","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/daffeythoughts\/2016\/01\/superior-by-catholic.html","title":{"rendered":"Superior by Catholic"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both;text-align: center\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/715\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/-cEO04QiHSes\/VpkGR7CdIXI\/AAAAAAAAGnI\/dTSMqUyZznQ\/s1600\/Sam_and_Ralph_clock.png\" style=\"clear: right;float: right;margin-bottom: 1em;margin-left: 1em\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" height=\"242\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/715\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/-cEO04QiHSes\/VpkGR7CdIXI\/AAAAAAAAGnI\/dTSMqUyZznQ\/s320\/Sam_and_Ralph_clock.png\" width=\"320\"><\/a><\/div>\n<p>So I a friend of mine chastised me for going over and visiting <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/mark.shea2\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Mark Shea\u2019s Facebook page<\/a>.\u00a0 I know.\u00a0 When CAEI closed up shop, I said I was glad and could kick the dust off my feet and move on.\u00a0 Why then, oh why, would I go to his Facebook page and renew the frustration?<\/p>\n<p>Partly because I had never gone to\u00a0his Facebook page.\u00a0 In fact, by the end I stopped reading most of Mark\u2019s materials outside of CAEI.\u00a0 Of the articles that were being published, most\u00a0were old articles, from Mark c. 2006 or earlier.\u00a0\u00a0 Back when he was clearly a conservative Catholic, albeit one who was willing to call out conservatism and give liberalism credit where it was due.\u00a0\u00a0 A good thing.<\/p>\n<p>So most articles I saw were ones I had already read.\u00a0 As for the newer ones, if I wanted to read those I could go to any liberal Catholic website.\u00a0 In some cases, I could go to secular liberal websites.\u00a0 As often as not, there was little difference.\u00a0 <\/p>\n<p>Nonetheless, out of sheer morbid curiosity, I thought I should at least see what all the hubbub was about.\u00a0 I had heard horror stories about Mark\u2019s Facebook page, both from Mark and his detractors.\u00a0 So I thought at least some level of informed opinion was\u00a0in order.\u00a0 Therefore last week, for the first time, I went.<\/p>\n<p>Dear Lord.\u00a0 I thought Daily Kos and Huffpost were bad.\u00a0 On this page, Mark has thrown out all pretense of being conservative.\u00a0 He still opposes abortion and hates Planned Parenthood, and the HHS mandate as much as always.\u00a0 Naturally, being a proud former D&amp;D; playing non-conformist, he rails against any politician who is established.\u00a0 But otherwise, he is a liberal advocate through and through.\u00a0 As I noticed below, with the exception of a couple of articles centered around opposing Planned Parenthood or abortion, he seems to get his information from a collection of partisan, liberal websites and news sites.\u00a0 <\/p>\n<p>And the Rancor? Wow.\u00a0 I mean now the gloves are off.\u00a0 Mark hates conservatives.\u00a0 He hates just about anything to do with guns, though the actual identities of those he hates regarding guns\u00a0are never clear.\u00a0 He hates the Oregon Protesters. The GOP.\u00a0 Just about everyone and everything\u00a0right of center.\u00a0 And he runs with any article that supports his views, no matter how vile those articles might be.\u00a0 Just as I said below.\u00a0 An article that mocks a killed man merely because he is conservative, and it is referenced as Gospel Truth by Mark.<\/p>\n<p>But it isn\u2019t Mark\u2019s clear and obvious liberal advocacy that is the problem.\u00a0 I haven\u2019t seen him say he still sees himself as a conservative on the Facebook page at this point.\u00a0 Which is good.\u00a0 Lies are wrong, as he has made clear.\u00a0 And to do all that and still consider yourself conservative either means you have a problem, you are lying, or the English language no longer matters in the Post-Modern world.\u00a0 But that\u2019s not the issue.<\/p>\n<p>The issue is the world of Social Media.\u00a0 If you thought things written by readers on CAEI were bad \u2013 and sometimes they were beyond bad, and were sin \u2013 they hold nothing to the comments here.\u00a0 At one point, Mark posted a link deriding the widow of Chris Kyle, known for being the subject of the movie <em>American Sniper<\/em>.\u00a0 One of the readers posted that she was glad Chris was killed because he had it coming.\u00a0 Mark did step in on that one and say that it was wrong to want the death of others.\u00a0 Which was good.<\/p>\n<p>But in other cases, such as the Oregon protesters, similar things have been written as well.\u00a0 All but cheering at the death of Mr. Carter.\u00a0 Mark himself says he would like to see the Protesters starved and frozen out of where they are.\u00a0 Imagine if someone said that about Muslim terrorists.\u00a0 I know what would happen, because over the years I saw what Mark\u2019s reaction to such things would be.\u00a0 <\/p>\n<p>Now?\u00a0 That conservatives are stupid, evil, racist, that gun owners are largely murderers who as often as not get what they have coming \u2013 these make up the debate in his comments sections now.\u00a0 When someone to the Right suffers or has ill fortune?\u00a0 \u2018Hurray!\u2019 Mark\u2019s readers write.\u00a0 And unless an extreme case like that above happens, Mark is silent.\u00a0 In fact, as I have found out, if you try to balance things or remind people that evil isn\u2019t only cleansed by the Gospel of Liberalism, that non-liberals who trust in Christ can also overcome the evils of the world, you\u2019ll be labeled a Right Wing Partisan, not only by the readers, but by Mark himself.<\/p>\n<p>All of this is to say that Mark\u2019s Facebook page far exceeds some of the most vitriolic and rancorous left wing websites I have ever visited.\u00a0 And some of the things his readers say, and that articles that Mark references say, are flat out sin.\u00a0 The sin of hate.\u00a0 The sin of slander.\u00a0 The sin of hypocrisy \u2013 for what do you call someone who excuses something as good when, if applied to someone else of a different political, religious or racial identity \u2013 is considered evil?<\/p>\n<p>And yet?\u00a0 Mark continues to rock it.\u00a0 Across the world of modern Catholic apologetics, Mark is a star.\u00a0 A star in a car.\u00a0 Leading figures within the lay apologetics world continue to post on his page, giving him much praise and adoration.\u00a0 Fr. Longenecker chimes in to give support on occasion.\u00a0 Others who are Mark\u2019s friends frequently post.\u00a0 They may not jump in with the worst of the comments, but when the comments are bad, they seem to be silent.\u00a0 When the comments breach the wall to full-blown sin, nothing. <\/p>\n<p>In my ministry days, if we saw a colleague suddenly turn a corner and go down a path like this, where false accusations, partisanship, and slander and even cheering for the suffering of political adversaries were the norm where once such things were openly condemned, we\u2019d have what we used to call an \u2018intervention.\u2019\u00a0 We\u2019d certainly be cautious about making it appear as if we were condoning what was happening.\u00a0 We might not call him out publically, but we would be meeting with him, and we would pull back from openly advocating him until things came back down to earth.<\/p>\n<p>So how can we see people watch someone who at best has laid out a social media page where sin and slander and the cheering of suffering based on political ideology is all the rage, when ostensibly we\u2019re all about the higher way?\u00a0 <\/p>\n<p>Well first, those who are being mocked and derided and attacked are the ones typically in the crosshairs of Pope Francis.\u00a0 For a man famous for asking who he is to judge, he can judge pretty harshly.\u00a0 He simply appears to apply mercy to a section of humanity whose sins are typically associated with a more modern, progressive\u00a0ideological bent. <\/p>\n<p>But there is something else I\u2019ve noticed over the years.\u00a0 It\u2019s not that in Protestantism there can\u2019t be a certain CYA syndrome.\u00a0 In my third church, I ran into a previous pastor and staff that was corruption personified.\u00a0 The pastor I replaced controlled the money, controlled the finances and basically he and his wife had set the church up as a base for a daycare center that she ran and from which they made a crap ton of money.\u00a0 The problem was, the pastor was friends with the<br>\nleaders of the State Convention (that\u2019s a sort of statewide diocese to us Catholics).\u00a0 I more or less knew what I was getting into, but was completely ill-prepared for the level of corruption that I encountered.\u00a0 The pastor would take what he learned from counseling and feed it to his wife who would use it to malign anyone who questioned their dealings with the Church.\u00a0 Anyone who questioned her administration of the daycare found himself or herself on the receiving end of false accusations, including sexual assault or child abuse.\u00a0 It was bad. <\/p>\n<p>And it wasn\u2019t just them.\u00a0 They had surrounded themselves with friends and friends of friends within the ministry staff.\u00a0 And though there was occasional infighting, they were willing to circle the wagons and go after anyone who upset the apple cart.\u00a0 Which brings us to me.\u00a0 In my na\u00efve way, I thought I could fight such corruption and, let me tell you, it looks easier in the movies.\u00a0\u00a0I appealed to the State Convention for help, and guess what?\u00a0 Yeah, you guessed.\u00a0 When it came to stepping out and doing the right thing, it was more or less \u2018uh sorry Dave, just play ball, you know\u2026\u2019\u00a0\u00a0 <\/p>\n<p>So I know CYA happens. But the one thing I noticed, even in that case where corruption and favoritism were ripe in the State Convention, there was still a sort of shame.\u00a0 They new it was wrong.\u00a0 They even \u2013 behind closed doors \u2013 admitted it was wrong.\u00a0 They just weren\u2019t going to go after a pastor who now worked for the State and was buddies and friends with the\u00a0powers that be.\u00a0 They just wanted it swept under the rug.\u00a0 They didn\u2019t spend that time openly praising the former Pastor mind you.\u00a0 It was sort of hush-hush. <\/p>\n<p>But in the Catholic world, I\u2019ve picked up on this strange trend that such things, in a Catholic context, are almost irrelevant.\u00a0 It\u2019s not really CYA.\u00a0 It\u2019s just that Catholics don\u2019t\u00a0 even address it.\u00a0If they like each other, or consider one another to be on the Catholic team, it doesn\u2019t really matter.\u00a0 It isn\u2019t just hanging a head in shame and not wanting to confront the sin.\u00a0 It\u2019s like the sin is irrelevant.\u00a0 That\u2019s not to say sin is irrelevant simply because you are Catholic, though more than once I\u2019ve seen Catholics invoke \u2018ah shucks, we\u2019re all just sinners doncha know\u2019\u00a0when pressed. <\/p>\n<p>There is, in fact, much partisanship and accusation between Catholic \u2018camps.\u2019\u00a0 But within those camps, it really doesn\u2019t\u00a0 matter.\u00a0 You can do or say or be just about anything and still laugh and yuck it up at the local pub after hours. And if you bring up the fact that there might be a lay apostolate that isn\u2019t what it seems, or there is someone representing the Faith who might, in fact, be sinning and being a horrible witness?\u00a0 Eh.<\/p>\n<p>Superior by Catholic is a phrase used by anti-Catholic pundits to describe the tendency Catholics are supposed to have to say if you are Catholic, thereby obviously awesome.\u00a0 You might be wrong, you might gang rape babies, but in the end: Catholic!<\/p>\n<p>Now on one hand, that is a stereotype.\u00a0 In reality, all Catholics don\u2019t do that.\u00a0 They don\u2019t look at the abuse scandal and say \u2018Ah shucks.\u00a0 Catholic!\u2019\u00a0 And yet, there is also this tendency to not sweat the little things.\u00a0 Like sin.\u00a0 Like slander.\u00a0 Like hypocrisy.\u00a0 Like debauchery.\u00a0 I don\u2019t know if that\u2019s why most Catholics I knew (most, not all) growing up could out party Prince in 1999.\u00a0 But I see it.\u00a0 I see it with Mark, and with some others in the world of the Catholic apologetics sphere.\u00a0 There seems to be, if you\u2019re part of the Right Catholics, a notion that it doesn\u2019t matter.\u00a0 Do or don\u2019t do\u00a0as we say others should do, and who cares about the rest? <\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s like the Coyote and the Sheepdog from the old Warner Brothers cartoons.\u00a0 Remember how they were friends, and then when the work whistle blew, they took on their respective roles as hunter and guard dog?\u00a0 Then at the end of the day, friends again?\u00a0 It\u2019s like that.\u00a0 We might stand against this or that or advocate this or that, but at the end of the day, we\u2019re all buddies \u2013 if we\u2019re Right Catholics.\u00a0 Not that those who would support Mark or hire Mark think that disengeinousness or hypocrisy or slander or even allowing for the cheering of death and suffering are a good thing.\u00a0 In fact, they love it when Mark attacks such things. \u00a0It\u2019s just that, it doesn\u2019t matter.\u00a0 When all is said and done, it\u2019s to the pub for a pint of Guinness and a pipe all around. <\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s the sort of thing you do when your friends aren\u2019t Catholic, or Christian, and you understand their morals are informed by a completely different set of standards.\u00a0 But for some reason, one I can\u2019t quite pinpoint, within the Catholic world, it is almost as if these morals we are called to defend are at the same time merely those things we can all grab or loose as we see fit, because, well, at the end of the day, they are a completely different set of standards.\u00a0 I don\u2019t have an answer to this long, rambling post.\u00a0 It\u2019s just something I\u2019ve noticed in my ten years of being Catholic. <\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>So I a friend of mine chastised me for going over and visiting Mark Shea\u2019s Facebook page.\u00a0 I know.\u00a0 When CAEI closed up shop, I said I was glad and could kick the dust off my feet and move on.\u00a0 Why then, oh why, would I go to his Facebook page and renew the frustration? 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