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So we heard. \u00a0Again<\/a>\u00a0and again<\/a>\u00a0and again<\/a>\u00a0and again<\/a>, ever since the Great Lila Rose disaster that swept the Catholic Blogosphere a few years ago. \u00a0Of course we also got a dose of Catholic legalism then, when we learned there is a massive difference between lying and dishonesty, in which some argued you could be the most dishonest person in the world, weaving entire tapestries of falsehoods and deceit, as long as you didn\u2019t technically lie. \u00a0Pharisee anyone?<\/p>\n

But on the real level of reality, the emphasis was on not lying, not being dishonest, condemning the idea that lies and falsehoods could ever be good for anything. \u00a0The Gospel? \u00a0Falsehoods and deceit? \u00a0Not compatible. \u00a0OK. \u00a0Fine.<\/p>\n

So now it turns out Sir. Elton John hearts Pope Francis. \u00a0Like most of the followers of the Post Modern Way, Sir John loves the Pope. He loves him because, like most who only recently hated the popes and the Church, they think Francis is all about trashing this laughable old religion to conform to the Post-Modern Way. \u00a0Especially when it comes to the Ultimate Question of Gay Marriage. <\/p>\n

This brought out a certain reaction by some, who pointed out that the reasons Sir John hearts Francis is based upon falsehoods and false assumptions. This, in turn, brought the wrath of The Shea, who found some off the wall loony statements and suggested anyone not celebrating Sir John\u2019s step toward conversion was in the same boat as the loonies.<\/p>\n

While some were hesitant, most jumped in to say that anything that bridges gaps with the unbeliever, and any positive response, was therefore good. \u00a0Even if it\u2019s not true, or the assumptions are false, it matters not. \u00a0Positive is positive. \u00a0That\u2019s all that matters.<\/p>\n

Suddenly, in stepped the legendary Zippy Catholic<\/a>. \u00a0Mr. Zippy came to our aid once, so I have no heavy criticism there. \u00a0Certainly an intelligent person, though the alias makes it tough to figure out anything about his assumptions or the framework from which he operates. \u00a0Still, he is learned and does a good job conveying his ideas. \u00a0Especially when it comes to this, the reminder that shrugging shoulders about falsehoods and deception is not good. \u00a0It never is good. \u00a0If we remember. \u00a0If we believe the Catholic blogosphere.<\/p>\n

So we have a dose of consistency. \u00a0 Something that can often be lost where amateurs are concerned. \u00a0And in much of the Catholic apologetics world, amateurs are the professionals of the vocation.<\/p>\n

Updated Note<\/u>: It looks like more have jumped into the post and questioned some of the statements and approaches, including the indisputable claim that everything about Francis is beautiful and praiseworthy, and that it matters not how it\u2019s done, as long as people who hated the Church now love Francis at least. \u00a0Good to see.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"