{"id":2427,"date":"2012-09-24T12:46:00","date_gmt":"2012-09-24T12:46:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/daffeythoughts\/2012\/09\/the-absence-of-evidence-proves-everything.html"},"modified":"2012-09-24T12:46:00","modified_gmt":"2012-09-24T12:46:00","slug":"the-absence-of-evidence-proves-everything","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/daffeythoughts\/2012\/09\/the-absence-of-evidence-proves-everything.html","title":{"rendered":"The absence of evidence proves everything"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>It is a common meme in our modern age that history is written by the winners. That is, the paper trail of\u00a0evidence\u00a0we have is there\u00a0because\u00a0those who won the battles and controlled the empires made it say what it said for their purposes. \u00a0Of course this is a little broad, as we\u00a0sometimes\u00a0have alternate versions of history from sources clearly outside the dominate viewpoint. \u00a0Nonetheless, it\u2019s a popular narrative, and it is the milk and\u00a0honey\u00a0of modern scholarship, especially the very agenda driven scholarship today that does not seek to follow the evidence, but seeks to make sure the\u00a0evidence\u00a0conforms to what we already know should be true.<\/p>\n<p>The ease with which this narrative allows us to rewrite anything from the past is almost breathtaking. After all, we reason, if the history was written by the winners, that suggests strongly that the history cannot be trusted. And in our era of rebels without a cause, we\u2019re going to assume anyone fighting the machine was the good guys who were right. \u00a0This is especially true if the ones fighting the machine were advancing something I support. \u00a0So from here it takes modern scholars no time at all to say that clearly historical narrative X is false, and rather Z is true, even if we have no\u00a0evidence\u00a0for Z, because X was only written to oppress the masses. \u00a0X clearly is false.<\/p>\n<p>Now, thinking people who were smart enough to avoid college will step back at this\u00a0point\u00a0and say, \u201cWait a minute. \u00a0Maybe X is false. \u00a0But how do you know Z is true? \u00a0Just because X is false doesn\u2019t mean Z is true. \u00a0Heck, just because X was written by the winners doesn\u2019t\u00a0necessarily\u00a0mean X is false. \u00a0And again, even if it is, you can\u2019t say Z is true unless you have\u00a0evidence, can you?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Well, our intrepid observer sans college degree is correct. \u00a0First off, just because\u00a0history\u00a0was written by \u2018the winners\u2019 does not, in itself, mean that the history written was false. \u00a0It may have been slanted, focused on certain things, but maybe not entirely false. \u00a0Or heck, it might have been true. Should we assume that just because our society venerates Martin Luther King, Jr., and celebrates the Civil Rights era, that I should dismiss anything it says? \u00a0After all, Civil Rights is celebrated by all the vendors of public information, and if the narrative is correct, doesn\u2019t that mean we might only be getting select versions of MLK and the Civil Rights era? \u00a0Should we dismiss that? \u00a0Hmmm?<\/p>\n<p>So just because something is the narrative of the established culture or society or political power or whatever, doesn\u2019t \u00a0mean it\u2019s necissarily wrong. \u00a0But even if it is, even if we find out that the \u2018official story\u2019 was warped and twisetd and a string of lies, then what? \u00a0Especially if we follow with the popular examples of the powerful destroying and wiping out evidence of any competing ideas. \u00a0I mean, we just can\u2019t say something is true unless there is evidence. \u00a0Why, there could be missing\u00a0evidence\u00a0that suggests\u00a0neither\u00a0official paper trail X, or alternate theory based on my own views Z are true. \u00a0Correct?<\/p>\n<p>All this is to say, the recent media storm about the fragment of papyrus that maybe could possibly suggest there might be a chance that Jesus was married goes to show one thing: don\u2019t trust the media to learn about scholarship. \u00a0But it also shows something else. \u00a0In a\u00a0piece\u00a0for the New York Times, the always reliable Ross Douthat<a href=\"http:\/\/douthat.blogs.nytimes.com\/2012\/09\/21\/the-jesus-conspiracy\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"> breaks down why this was much ado about nothing<\/a>. \u00a0Fine. \u00a0It\u2019s a great read. <\/p>\n<p>When you are done with his sensible, and quite honestly correct, take on the story, read the comments. \u00a0Look at how often people invoke the \u2018Constantine and Rome and the Catholic Church won, they got to write the story their way, the other real story was never known.\u2019 \u00a0Look at the assumption in some of those arguments that\u00a0because\u00a0the Church emerged as the official version, it is\u00a0necessarily\u00a0wrong. \u00a0Look at those who assume there is really some other actual version of the Real Jesus, even if there is no other\u00a0evidence\u00a0to suggest another real Jesus. \u00a0Look at the intellectual laziness that has come to define the\u00a0internet\u00a0age, where people are commenting simply based on fad scholarship, with no real\u00a0evidence\u00a0or clue that evidence is needed. <\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s an eye\u00a0opener. \u00a0For the record, the only thing we know is that the earliest and most reliable documents we have about Jesus comes from the books gathered into the New Testament. \u00a0As of now, those are it. \u00a0Of course they could be lies. \u00a0They could be wrong. They could be made up fantasies. \u00a0But right now, unless you want to dismiss them outright and leave it at that (and by extension, dismiss two thirds of what we think we know about the ancient world which as far less\u00a0evidence\u00a0to support it), you can say nothing else. \u00a0There is simply no evidence for these hippy, secular, post-sixties cultural\u00a0revolution\u00a0models of Jesus. \u00a0They might be funny things to listen to, but there is not a scrap of evidence to support\u00a0them. \u00a0Therefore, our good non-college graduate might be inclined to say \u201cI\u2019m staying with the paper trail we have unless I see another paper trail that clearly suggests the original paper trail was wrong. \u00a0I\u2019m sure as heck not going to believe a theory that has no other evidence except to say the winners wrote the history, so the official story must be wrong.\u201d \u00a0And our faithful observer would be wise indeed to approach this, and most of what you hear regarding such theories, with the same cautioned skepticism.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It is a common meme in our modern age that history is written by the winners. 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