{"id":4630,"date":"2010-08-30T09:48:00","date_gmt":"2010-08-30T09:48:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/daffeythoughts\/2010\/08\/do-liberal-christians-heart-christianity.html"},"modified":"2010-08-30T09:48:00","modified_gmt":"2010-08-30T09:48:00","slug":"do-liberal-christians-heart-christianity","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/daffeythoughts\/2010\/08\/do-liberal-christians-heart-christianity.html","title":{"rendered":"Do Liberal Christians Heart Christianity?"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/715\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/_J1G_DOabPa0\/THu_7cIK4TI\/AAAAAAAAAOk\/6L0JKhXEdFs\/s1600\/Bishop_John_Shelby_Spong_portrait_2006.bmp\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" border=\"0\" id=\"BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5511209596901581106\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/715\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/_J1G_DOabPa0\/THu_7cIK4TI\/AAAAAAAAAOk\/6L0JKhXEdFs\/s320\/Bishop_John_Shelby_Spong_portrait_2006.bmp\" style=\"float: right;height: 320px;margin: 0px 0px 10px 10px;width: 213px\"><\/a>It depends on what you mean by Christianity. In some ways, many modern, progressive Christians have an almost Gnostic approach to the Faith. Immanent figures such as <span class=\"blsp-spelling-error\" id=\"SPELLING_ERROR_0\">JohnShelby<\/span> <span class=\"blsp-spelling-error\" id=\"SPELLING_ERROR_1\">Spong<\/span> and Bishop Gene Robinson act as though it\u2019s OK to be a Christian, as long as you see Christianity their way \u2013 the right way. For 2000 years, the Faith has been languishing in error; bigoted, sexist, homophobic, racist, anti-Semitic, anti-intellectual, wrong, dumb, violent. It\u2019s only now, with the rise of this enlightened generation, that we know the rights and wrongs of being Christian. Through the glories of critical scholarship, we now know the bulk of the Bible is myth, legend, and outright lies. We know the proper way to interpret the Scriptures \u2013 what little is left of value. And we can see the error of our ways and find true Enlightenment and, if you must, salvation. In fact, so close to an inner, secret Truth is this approach that it shouldn\u2019t be a shock that I knew several progressive ministers in my own pastoral days who had little problem with Gnosticism; some actually thought it brought much to the table. <\/p>\n<p>That, of course, is the basis of much post-modern thought. There is an underlying \u2018surely, you don\u2019t disbelieve what we\u2019ve said, do you?\u2019 approach in presenting various subjects. Proof is assumed to be out there, even if it needn\u2019t be provided. Are more Americans being violent against Muslims? Has there been violence against Muslims out of proportion of violence against other groups? Do we really know exactly why homosexuals are homosexuals? Do we actually know an unborn baby can\u2019t feel pain? Are we sure we have the right to define human life? Are we positive that religion was made up by cave people trying to understand why Woolly Mammoth dung smelled? Is there actual proof? Ask these questions, and there\u2019s a snort of derision, a \u2018you must not be in on the Truth\u2019 response. A subtle \u2018we don\u2019t need proof, because we know, and we know because we are\u2019 echo in what is said.  An approach to knowledge that would certainly bring pride to the most fervent Gnostic thinker of two <span class=\"blsp-spelling-error\" id=\"SPELLING_ERROR_2\">millennia<\/span> ago. Which is why a wise pastor once said there are no new heresies, simply old ones repackaged.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It depends on what you mean by Christianity. In some ways, many modern, progressive Christians have an almost Gnostic approach to the Faith. Immanent figures such as JohnShelby Spong and Bishop Gene Robinson act as though it\u2019s OK to be a Christian, as long as you see Christianity their way \u2013 the right way. 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