{"id":101579,"date":"2023-08-30T23:56:40","date_gmt":"2023-08-31T05:56:40","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/?p=101579"},"modified":"2023-09-02T13:21:41","modified_gmt":"2023-09-02T19:21:41","slug":"was-joseph-smith-funny","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/2023\/08\/was-joseph-smith-funny.html","title":{"rendered":"Was Joseph Smith funny?"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_26301\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-26301\" style=\"width: 597px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2015\/09\/800px-Carl_Anton_Joseph_Rottmann_-_Corinth_with_Akrocorinth_-_WGA20150.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-26301\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2015\/09\/800px-Carl_Anton_Joseph_Rottmann_-_Corinth_with_Akrocorinth_-_WGA20150.jpg\" alt=\"Korinthos, with Akrokorinthos in the background\" width=\"597\" height=\"465\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-26301\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">\u201cCorinth with Akrocorinth,\u201d by Carl Anton Joseph Rottmann (1846)<br>Public Domain, via Wikimedia Commons<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Confident predictions of its imminent demise notwithstanding, new material constantly appears on <a href=\"https:\/\/interpreterfoundation.org\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">the website of the Interpreter Foundation<\/a>. \u00a0Here are three of the latest, which are all available to you at your convenience and at no charge (though we hope that some of you, at least, might consider <a href=\"https:\/\/interpreterfoundation.org\/foundation\/donate\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">making a donation<\/a>, whether large or small, so that we can continue to offer such things):<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/interpreterfoundation.org\/conference-talks-gentiles-in-the-temple-worship-and-conversion-in-the-septuagint-of-isaiah\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Conference Talks: <i>\u00a0Gentiles in the Temple: Worship and Conversion in the Septuagint of Isaiah<\/i>, given by Alex Douglas<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>These remarks were originally presented on Saturday, 5 November 2016, at the Interpreter Foundation\u2019s 2016 Temple on Mount Zion Conference<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/interpreterfoundation.org\/cfm-study-aids-new-testament-2023-lesson-37\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><em>Come, Follow Me<\/em> \u2014 New Testament Study and Teaching Helps: Lesson 37, September 4 \u2014 10: 1 Corinthians 14\u201316 \u2014 <em>\u201cGod Is Not the Author of Confusion, but of Peace\u201d<\/em><\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Once again, for followers of the Interpreter Foundation, Jonn Claybaugh generously supplies a concise set of notes to help students and teachers of the Church\u2019s \u201cCome, Follow Me\u201d curriculum.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/interpreterfoundation.org\/cfm-new-testament-in-context-lesson-37\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">The New Testament in Context Lesson 37: <em>\u201cGod Is Not the Author of Confusion, but of Peace\u201d<\/em> : 1 Corinthians 14\u201316<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>During the 13 August 2023 <em>Come, Follow Me<\/em> segment of the Interpreter Radio Show, Terry Hutchinson and Kevin Christensen discussed New Testament lesson 37, \u201cGod Is Not the Author of Confusion, but of Peace,\u201d covering 1 Corinthians 14\u201316. \u00a0That discussion, shorn of commercial breaks, is now available to you for your listening pleasure and edification. \u00a0(The other segments of the 13 August 2023 radio show can be accessed at <a href=\"https:\/\/interpreterfoundation.org\/interpreter-radio-show-august-13-2023\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\">https:\/\/interpreterfoundation.org\/interpreter-radio-show-august-13-2023<\/a>.)<\/p>\n<p>The Interpreter Radio Show can be heard in the Valley of the Great Salt Lake on Sunday evenings from 7 to 9 PM (MDT), on K-TALK, AM 1640, or, if you live beyond the Valley (as I and several other people do) \u00a0you can listen live on the Internet at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ktalkmedia.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\">ktalkmedia.com<\/a>.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Were you aware, by the way, that the Interpreter Foundation is sponsoring <a href=\"https:\/\/interpreterfoundation.org\/study\/study-travel\/turkey-2023\/lectures\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">an on-going lecture series<\/a> in connection with its upcoming <a href=\"https:\/\/interpreterfoundation.org\/study\/study-travel\/turkey-2023\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Sacred Sites Tour<\/a> of Turkey (T\u00fcrkiye)? \u00a0Some time after those lectures have been presented, they are made publicly available on the Interpreter Foundation website at no charge. \u00a0Three of them have already been posted \u2014 more are yet to come \u2014 and I invite you to enjoy them:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/erichuntsman.com\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Eric Huntsman<\/a>: \u201cThe Second Rome: The Beauty and Culture of Byzantium\u201d<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/history.byu.edu\/directory\/christine-isom-verhaaren\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Christine Isom-Verhaaren<\/a>: \u201cLord of the Two Lands and the Two Seas\u201d<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/interpreterfoundation.org\/author\/kristinef\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Kristine Frederickson<\/a>: \u201cWomen in the Ancient Mediterranean World\u201d<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_101582\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-101582\" style=\"width: 596px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2023\/08\/Fatih_Forest_Nature_Park.jpeg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-101582\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2023\/08\/Fatih_Forest_Nature_Park.jpeg\" alt=\"Did Mehmet come here?\" width=\"596\" height=\"395\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-101582\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">In Fatih Forest Nature Park \u2014 named after Mehmet Fatih (\u201cMehmet the Conqueror\u201d) \u2014 outside of Istanbul \u00a0(Wikimedia Commons public domain image)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Incidentally, the <a href='https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/library\/mormonism' target='_blank'>Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints<\/a> has, for several months now, been using <em>T\u00fcrkiye<\/em>, the Turkish version of the name of the country that we have historically called <em>Turkey<\/em>, in articles about matters Turkish on its website. \u00a0It\u2019s a token of respect.<\/p>\n<p>I have no particular objection to this practice. \u00a0Particularly since, for speakers of English, the word <em>Turkey<\/em> inevitably evokes thoughts of an especially dim-witted and awkwardly-constructed bird that many of us ritually consume near the end of November each year.<\/p>\n<p>But we don\u2019t commonly use the native names of foreign countries. \u00a0We don\u2019t, for instance, speak in English of <em>Deutschland<\/em>, <i lang=\"nl\">Nederland<\/i>, and<em> Italia.<\/em>\u00a0 We speak of <em>Finland<\/em>, not of <em>Suomi<\/em>. \u00a0Of <em>Sweden<\/em> and <em>Norway<\/em>, not of <em>Sverige<\/em> and <em>Norge<\/em>. \u00a0We refer to <em>Japan<\/em>, not to <span title=\"Japanese-language text\"><span lang=\"ja\">\u65e5\u672c\u56fd<\/span><\/span>,\u00a0<i>Nihonkoku<\/i>, and to <em>Egypt<\/em>, not to <span dir=\"rtl\" lang=\"ar\">\u0645\u0635\u0631<\/span>, <span title=\"American Library Association \u2013 Library of Congress transliteration\"><i lang=\"ar-Latn\">Mi\u1e63r. \u00a0<\/i><\/span>To <em>Greece<\/em>, rather than to \u0395\u03bb\u03bb\u03ac\u03b4\u03b1, or <i><span title=\"ISO 843 Greek (Greek language) transliteration\"><i lang=\"el-Latn\"><span class=\"unicode haudio\"><span class=\"fn\">Ell\u00e1da.<\/span><\/span><\/i><\/span><\/i><span title=\"ISO 843 Greek (Greek language) transliteration\"><span class=\"unicode haudio\"><span class=\"fn\"> \u00a0To <em>Switzerland<\/em>, rather than to <em>die Schweiz<\/em> \u2014 let alone to <i>Confoederatio Helvetica.<\/i><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Just saying.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_24973\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-24973\" style=\"width: 450px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2015\/07\/450px-Cop%C3%A1n_Maya_stelae.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-24973\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2015\/07\/450px-Cop%C3%A1n_Maya_stelae.jpg\" alt=\"Honduran stela\" width=\"450\" height=\"600\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-24973\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">A Maya stela in Cop\u00e1n, in western Honduras. \u00a0(Wikimedia Commons public domain image)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Jeff Lindsay has posted yet another fascinating entry on his blog: \u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.arisefromthedust.com\/exciting-news-on-an-apparent-breakthrough-in-deciphering-the-indus-valley-script-a-great-way-to-turn-the-hearts-of-the-children-to-their-ancestors\/\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">\u201cExciting News on an Apparent Breakthrough in Deciphering the Indus Valley Script: A Great Way to Turn the Hearts of the Children to Their Ancestors\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Incidentally, the late John L. Sorenson briefly recounted the episode of Yuri Knorozov\u2019s treatment at the hands of J. Eric S. Thompson on pages 302-303 of his <a href=\"https:\/\/scholarsarchive.byu.edu\/cgi\/viewcontent.cgi?article=1218&amp;context=msr\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">\u201cViva Zapato! Hurray for the Shoe!\u201d<\/a> \u2014 a review of \u201cDoes the Shoe Fit? A Critique of the Limited Tehuantepec Geography\u201d (1993), by Deanne G. Matheny \u2014 and connected it with approaches to the study of the Book of Mormon in <em>Review of Books on the Book of Mormon<\/em> 6\/1 (1994): 297\u2013361.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_85985\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-85985\" style=\"width: 596px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2020\/06\/72098432_681121039055522_2343297640885649408_n.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-85985\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2020\/06\/72098432_681121039055522_2343297640885649408_n.jpg\" alt=\"James Jordan with four crew\/actors\" width=\"596\" height=\"476\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-85985\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Mark Goodman (director), Lincoln Hoppe (\u201cMartin Harris\u201d), Joseph L Garrard, and Paul Reid Wuthrich (\u201cJoseph Smith\u201d) on the set of the Interpreter Foundation\u2019s \u201cWitnesses\u201d film project in 2019. Still photograph by James Jordan.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>From a still unfinished manuscript of mine:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Humor is in short supply among fanatics, and is something carefully avoided by most pretenders to sanctity.\u00a0 Yet George Q. Cannon remembered Joseph\u2019s \u201csense of gentle humor.\u201d<a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"#_ftn1\" name=\"_ftnref1\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">[1]<\/a>\u00a0 Likewise, his modern biographer Robert Remini, a preeminent scholar of Jacksonian America and a non-Mormon, writes that he \u201ccame to like the man very much,\u201d not only because he possessed \u201ccompelling charisma, charm, persuasiveness,\u201d but partly because Joseph Smith was \u201cjoyously funny.\u201d\u00a0 \u201cI like them when they\u2019re funny.\u00a0 Andrew Jackson was <em>not<\/em> funny.\u201d<a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"#_ftn2\" name=\"_ftnref2\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">[2]<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">There is perhaps even a trace of humor apparent in his mother\u2019s recollection of his return home after his First Vision.\u00a0 Leaning against the fireplace, he answers his mother\u2019s concerned question about what is wrong: \u201cI have learned for myself,\u201d she recalls him saying, \u201cthat Presbyterianism is not true.\u201d<a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"#_ftn3\" name=\"_ftnref3\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">[3]<\/a>\u00a0 Rather an understatement of what had just occurred.\u00a0 But, notes Professor King, \u201cWe have to remember that his mother had joined the Presbyterian Church shortly before this.\u00a0 How do you assess that as a conversation between a fourteen-year-old and his mother?\u00a0 All mothers know that sort of thing really happens to them with their teenagers.\u201d<a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"#_ftn4\" name=\"_ftnref4\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">[4]<\/a> Nonetheless, Joseph\u2019s mother, Lucy Mack Smith, remembered him at the age of fourteen as \u201ca remarkably quiet, well disposed child,\u201d although she insists that, prior to that age, there was nothing unusual in his childhood.<a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"#_ftn5\" name=\"_ftnref5\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">[5]<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Professor King\u2019s trust in Joseph Smith as a human being was essential to his eventual faith in the doctrines and practices restored through the Prophet: \u201cBecause Joseph Smith talked about his experiences in the way he did, I was able to believe him, and having that belief, I could then go on to say, \u2018This man tells the truth; therefore, I ought to believe other things he tells me, even though I haven\u2019t got the same evidence of those.\u2019\u201d<a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"#_ftn6\" name=\"_ftnref6\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">[6]<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"#_ftnref1\" name=\"_ftn1\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">[1]<\/a> Cannon, <em>Life of Joseph Smith the Prophet<\/em>, 342.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"#_ftnref2\" name=\"_ftn2\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">[2]<\/a> As quoted by Dennis Lythgoe, \u201cWriter finds \u2018his Joseph,\u2019\u201d Salt Lake City <em>Deseret News<\/em> (13 October 2002), E10.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"#_ftnref3\" name=\"_ftn3\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">[3]<\/a> Joseph Smith \u2013 History 1:20.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"#_ftnref4\" name=\"_ftn4\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">[4]<\/a> King, \u201cJoseph Smith as a Writer,\u201d 291.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"#_ftnref5\" name=\"_ftn5\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">[5]<\/a><em>Lucy\u2019s Book<\/em>, 329.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><a style=\"color: #000000;\" href=\"#_ftnref6\" name=\"_ftn6\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">[6]<\/a> Arthur Henry King, \u201cAn Account of My Conversion,\u201d in Arthur Henry King, <em>Arm the Children: Faith\u2019s Response to a Violent World<\/em> (Provo: BYU Studies, 1998), 43.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00a0 \u00a0 Confident predictions of its imminent demise notwithstanding, new material constantly appears on the website of the Interpreter Foundation. \u00a0Here are three of the latest, which are all available to you at your convenience and at no charge (though we hope that some of you, at least, might consider making a donation, whether large [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1019,"featured_media":101582,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[36590,1176,36593,380,2905,788],"class_list":["post-101579","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-funny","tag-humor","tag-indus-valley-script","tag-joseph-smith","tag-latter-day-saint","tag-mormon"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Was Joseph Smith funny?<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"&nbsp; 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