{"id":104948,"date":"2024-04-30T19:13:55","date_gmt":"2024-05-01T01:13:55","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/?p=104948"},"modified":"2024-04-30T19:31:04","modified_gmt":"2024-05-01T01:31:04","slug":"is-anybody-out-there-interested-in-buying-a-palmyra-church","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/2024\/04\/is-anybody-out-there-interested-in-buying-a-palmyra-church.html","title":{"rendered":"Is anybody out there interested in buying a Palmyra church?"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_32266\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-32266\" style=\"width: 597px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2016\/04\/800px-Palmyra_four_churches.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-32266\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2016\/04\/800px-Palmyra_four_churches.jpg\" alt=\"In downtown Palmyra\" width=\"597\" height=\"426\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-32266\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">(Wikimedia Commons public domain photograph) \u00a0Although they postdate Joseph Smith, these four churches \u2014 at the intersection of Church Street, Canandaigua Street (State Route 21), East Main Street (State Routes 21 and 31), and West Main Street (State Route 31) in Palmyra, New York \u2014 have come to symbolize, for many Latter-day Saint visitors to the area, the religious confusion that perplexed Joseph and, accordingly, led to the restoration of the Gospel and the recovery of the Book of Mormon.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>We were back in and around Palmyra today. \u00a0We filmed at the E. B. Grandin print shop, at the famed intersection that is marked by four large churches (strictly speaking, there are actually five, but there\u2019s only room for four at the, well, four corners), again at the Smith family farm, and on the grounds of the Palmyra New York Temple.<\/p>\n<p>I get a kick out of some of the place names in this area. \u00a0It seems as if some wandering classicist freely sowed toponyms around the countryside. \u00a0We\u2019ve driven through towns named Ulysses and Ithaca and Homer and Macedon and Syracuse and Virgil and Marathon and, of course, Palmyra. \u00a0One of my favorites is the \u201cHamlet of Egypt,\u201d which, among its other attractions, boasts a place called \u201cLollypop Park.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The four large church spires that adorn the main Palmyra intersection \u2014 and that have often represented to Latter-day Saints the divisions and confusion caused by the Great Apostasy \u2014 are actually on the banners that hang from the lamp posts of the town\u2019s Main Street. \u00a0Some of us entered into one of them, the former Methodist Episcopal church that stands on what I believe is the northwest corner of the intersection of Main and Canandaigua. \u00a0The owner of the building very kindly opened the door for us, and we spoke a bit with him. \u00a0None of the church buildings dates back to the time of Joseph Smith\u2019s residency there, but at least one, the church on the northeast corner, is dated to 1832. \u00a0The one that we entered goes back to 1866, but its congregation gradually dwindled, the current owner told us, to about ten or fifteen parishioners, and they sold it to him four or five years back. \u00a0He runs a bed-and-breakfast in an adjacent building on the property and sometimes rents the church out, but now hopes to sell the whole thing in order to move to some property in Ireland that he owns. \u00a0He believes that the Catholic Church that stands just back from the northeast corner of the intersection \u2014 the fifth church \u2014 is also dwindling to the point of imminent death.<\/p>\n<p>I did, however, like a little cupboard-like container that stands a few feet to the northeast of the intersection. \u00a0There were maybe twenty or twenty-five cans of beans and soup and the like in it, and it bore a superscription reading: \u00a0\u201cTake what you need. Leave what you can.\u201d \u00a0That\u2019s a nice idea. \u00a0It could be generalized as a good rule for living, well beyond cans of food.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_104951\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-104951\" style=\"width: 597px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2024\/04\/IMG_8756.jpeg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-104951\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2024\/04\/IMG_8756.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"597\" height=\"336\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-104951\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">\u201cBrigham Young\u201d and \u201cHeber C. Kimball\u201d take refuge from the rain on the Tennessee set of the Interpreter Foundation\u2019s \u201cSix Days in August\u201d film project. Photograph by Russell D. Richins<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>In the meantime, while I\u2019ve been here in New York on behalf of Scripture Central, the Interpreter Foundation (of which I\u2019m an officer) has been wrapping up the filming of our forthcoming movie <em>Six Days in August<\/em> in Tennessee and then, at the end, here in the Rochester area. \u00a0The particular episode of Scripture Central\u2019s series <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.bookofmormoncentral.org\/content\/marvelous-work-2\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><em>A Marvelous Work<\/em><\/a> in which I\u2019m involved here will, I\u2019m told, probably go up online at the end of May. \u00a0And, as for <em>Six Days in August<\/em>, we\u2019re currently looking at sometime in October, though that could change.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_104954\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-104954\" style=\"width: 597px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2024\/04\/IMG_8745.jpeg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-104954\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2024\/04\/IMG_8745.jpeg\" alt=\";lfjaiopjsfopifjaosjfnkf. rain is falling!\" width=\"597\" height=\"336\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-104954\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Filmmaking in the rain. \u00a0Sounds like a movie title, doesn\u2019t it? \u00a0(Photo by Russell D. Richins)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>College administrators across the country have been very careful in dealing with anti-Israeli and pro-Palestinian protestors on their campuses. \u00a0They have been trying to avoid confrontations and, in many cases, they have delayed taking any action, while praising the right to dissent and to disagree.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nationalreview.com\/corner\/occupying-columbia-protesters-demand-global-intifada-free-food\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201c\u2018Occupying\u2019 Columbia Protesters Demand Global Intifada, Free Food\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nationalreview.com\/news\/this-is-like-basic-humanitarian-aid-were-asking-for-columbia-protesters-demand-food-water-from-university\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201c\u2018This Is Like Basic Humanitarian Aid We\u2019re Asking For\u2019: Columbia Protesters Demand Food, Water from University\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>There is at least one issue, however, and at least one group of dangerous protestors, where such dissent simply cannot be tolerated. \u00a0No \u201ckid-gloves\u201d treatment for <em>these<\/em> hardened enemies of society! \u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nationalreview.com\/news\/middle-school-girls-banned-from-track-competition-for-protesting-trans-sports-policies\/?utm_source=recirc-desktop&amp;utm_medium=blog-post&amp;utm_campaign=river&amp;utm_content=top-bar-latest&amp;utm_term=fourth\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cMiddle-School Girls Banned from Track Competition for Protesting Trans Sports Policies\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p><figure id=\"attachment_104957\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-104957\" style=\"width: 597px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2024\/04\/IMG_8741.jpeg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-104957\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2024\/04\/IMG_8741.jpeg\" alt=\"aokiuhygoipa['hdahudhuvaubdbnvbnbvbnvfnb\" width=\"597\" height=\"336\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-104957\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">As you can see, making films is a very glamorous and elegant and luxurious process. \u00a0James Jordan and Mark Goodman on the set, along with an unidentifiable cameraman. \u00a0(Photo by Russell D. Richins)<\/figcaption><\/figure>Newly posted on the website of the Interpreter Foundation:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><a href=\"https:\/\/interpreterfoundation.org\/nibley-lectures-come-follow-me-book-of-mormon-lesson-19\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><strong>1.<\/strong> \u00a0Nibley Lectures: <em>Come, Follow Me<\/em> Book of Mormon Lesson 19: \u201cIn the Strength of the Lord\u201d: Mosiah 7-10<\/a><\/p>\n<p>This week, we have lectures 31, 32, and 33 from Hugh Nibley\u2019s Book of Mormon classes at Brigham Young University, covering Mosiah 7-11.<\/p>\n<p>During 1988, 1989, and 1990, Hugh Nibley taught Honors Book of Mormon classes for four semesters at Brigham Young University. The lectures were video-taped and audio cassettes and printed transcripts were made of the lectures. We believe these recordings will be interesting to listen to and valuable to your <em>Come, Follow Me<\/em> study program this year. Each week, we will include the lectures covering the Book of Mormon chapters being studied that week.<\/p>\n<p>All 112 lectures are immediately available in PDF, audio, video, and electronic formats, as well as in paperback books that are available for purchase. Links for all of the available online sources can be found in the Complete Bibliography for Hugh Nibley at <a href=\"https:\/\/interpreterfoundation.org\/bibliographies\/hugh-w-nibley\/lectures\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/interpreterfoundation.org\/bibliographies\/hugh-w-nibley\/lectures\/<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/interpreterfoundation.org\/interpreter-radio-the-book-of-mormon-in-context-lesson-19\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><strong>2.<\/strong> \u00a0The Book of Mormon in Context Lesson 19: \u201cIn the Strength of the Lord\u201d: Mosiah 7-10<\/a><\/p>\n<p>For the 14 April 2024 <em>Come, Follow Me<\/em> segment of the Interpreter Radio Show, Terry Hutchinson, Mark Johnson, and Kevin Christensen discussed Book of Mormon lesson 19, \u201cIn the Strength of the Lord\u201d covering Mosiah 7-10. \u00a0That discussion is now available to you \u2014 recorded, archived, and liberated from commercial breaks \u2014 at your convenience and at no charge. \u00a0(The other segments of the 14 April 2024 radio show can be accessed at <a href=\"https:\/\/interpreterfoundation.org\/interpreter-radio-show-april-14-2024\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\">https:\/\/interpreterfoundation.org\/interpreter-radio-show-april-14-2024<\/a>.)<\/p>\n<p>The Interpreter Radio Show can be heard, weekly and live (i.e., without a net) \u00a0on Sunday evenings from 7 to 9 PM (MDT), on K-TALK, AM 1640. \u00a0Or you can listen to it live on the Internet at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ktalkmedia.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\">ktalkmedia.com<\/a>.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<figure id=\"attachment_104960\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-104960\" style=\"width: 597px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2024\/04\/Unknown-1.jpeg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-104960\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2024\/04\/Unknown-1.jpeg\" alt=\"nbjnkjdnjdnknkvnknkasuo7yr9q9887298259878\" width=\"597\" height=\"336\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-104960\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Neither rain, nor snow, nor sleet, nor hail shall keep these filmmakers from the swift completion of their appointed cinematography. (Photograph by Russell D. Richins)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Finally, here is some horrific news from the <em>Christopher Hitchens Memorial \u201cHow Religion Poisons Everything\u201d File<\/em>\u2122. \u00a0I hope that your righteous indignation at these outrages will be very gratifying to you:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org\/article\/church-of-jesus-christ-women-children-chad-ethiopia-south-sudan\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cHow the Church of Jesus Christ Is Helping Displaced Women and Children in Chad, Ethiopia and South Sudan: The Church gives US$6 million to the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org\/article\/latter-day-saint-youth-global-youth-service-day-southeast-united-states-2024\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cLatter-day Saint Youth Serve Communities in the Southeast US:\u00a0Youth gather for Global Youth Service Day to share hope and healing throughout their communities\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org\/article\/global-youth-service-day-huntington-beach\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cGlobal Youth Service Day Unites Southern California Youth in Acts of Kindness\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org\/article\/service-corner-opens-at-southern-virginia-university-with-help-of-justserve\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201c\u2018Service Corner\u2019 Opens at Southern Virginia University With Help of JustServe:\u00a0Students at the Shenandoah Valley institution can find service projects and opportunities in one central hub\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org\/article\/helping-farmers-become-more-resilient-and-self-reliant-in-liberia\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cHelping Farmers Become More Resilient and Self-Reliant in Liberia:\u00a0The Church\u2019s work with World Food Programme and BRAC Liberia helps farmers improve their families\u2019 lives\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org\/article\/church-of-jesus-christ-naacp-reducing-infant-mortality-black-communities\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cChurch of Jesus Christ and NAACP Praised for Reducing Infant Mortality in Black Communities: HHS recognizes MyBaby4Me initiative as key to improving Black maternal health outcomes\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\">Posted from Rochester, New York<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00a0 We were back in and around Palmyra today. \u00a0We filmed at the E. 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