{"id":107791,"date":"2024-11-11T18:27:10","date_gmt":"2024-11-12T01:27:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/?p=107791"},"modified":"2024-11-12T09:40:00","modified_gmt":"2024-11-12T16:40:00","slug":"contra-latter-day-saint-temples","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/2024\/11\/contra-latter-day-saint-temples.html","title":{"rendered":"Contra Latter-day Saint Temples"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_105047\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-105047\" style=\"width: 595px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2024\/05\/Periscope_Depth-scaled.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-105047\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2024\/05\/Periscope_Depth-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"Joseph used to be on one of theee.\" width=\"595\" height=\"401\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-105047\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">I cannot confirm this, but it is commonly reported that all United States nuclear submarines rise to periscope depth every Sunday evening between 7 PM and 9 PM, Utah time, so that their crews can listen live to the Interpreter Radio Show. They are able to do so in reasonable safety because all Russian and Chinese submarines, and most submarines of other fleets, do exactly the same thing. Or so it is said. (Wikimedia Commons public domain photograph)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Newly posted on the website of the Interpreter Foundation: \u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/interpreterfoundation.org\/interpreter-radio-show-november-3-2024\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Interpreter Radio Show \u2014 November 3, 2024, including \u201cThe Book of Mormon in Context\u201d for Ether 12-15<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>In the 3 November 2024 installment of the Interpreter Radio Show, Martin Tanner, Brent Schmidt, and Hales Swift discussed <em>Come, Follow Me<\/em> Book of Mormon lesson 48, the Interpreter Foundation\u2019s Margaret Barker seminars, <em>Saints<\/em> Volume 4, the new Church garments, the recent articles in <em>Interpreter: A Journal of Latter-day Saint Faith and Scholarship<\/em> by Diane E. Wirth and Matthew Bowen, and other topics.<\/p>\n<p>Recorded, archived, and now made available at no charge and at your sovereign pleasure, these recordings have been edited to remove commercial breaks.<\/p>\n<p>The Interpreter Radio Show can be heard in the Valley of the Great Salt Lake each and every Sunday evening from 7 to 9 PM (MDT), on K-TALK, AM 1640, or you can listen live on the Internet at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ktalkmedia.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\">ktalkmedia.com<\/a>.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<figure id=\"attachment_107797\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-107797\" style=\"width: 597px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2024\/11\/Deseret_Peak_Utah_Temple_outside_-_2024-scaled.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-107797\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2024\/11\/Deseret_Peak_Utah_Temple_outside_-_2024-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"The 200th temple in the Church\" width=\"597\" height=\"336\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-107797\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Deseret Peak Utah Temple, near Tooele, Utah, during its pre-dedicatory open house. (Hence, the temporary tents attached to the building.) This is a Wikimedia Commons public domain photograph.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.deseret.com\/faith\/2024\/11\/10\/president-nelson-age-100-dedicates-200th-latter-day-saint-temple\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cPresident Nelson, 100, dedicates the 200th Latter-day Saint temple:\u00a0\u2018This is the Lord\u2019s house. It is filled with His power,\u2019 President Russell M. Nelson says of new Deseret Peak Utah Temple in Tooele, Utah\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>The news that the centenarian president of the <a href='https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/library\/mormonism' target='_blank'>Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints<\/a> dedicated the Church\u2019s two-hundredth temple on Sunday has led to very pleased rejoicing among many members of the Church, both generally and, in particular, in the Tooele Valley. \u00a0Not so, however, in certain other wearisomely predictable quarters. \u00a0Among those whose lives currently revolve around disdaining the Church, its leaders, its members, its efforts, its teachings, and its values, the newly dedicated temple has aroused indignation and sneering. \u00a0In fact, for certain critics who may perhaps have their own unresolved personal issues with vanity and with what Sigmund Freud (in his letters to Wilhelm Flie\u00df) called <em>Projektion<\/em>, the rapid building of temples under the administration of President Russell M. Nelson is merely President Nelson\u2019s \u201cvanity project\u201d \u2014 an accusation that they have also leveled against <em>me<\/em>, in connection with the Interpreter Foundation\u2019s films <em>Witnesses<\/em> (2021), <em>Undaunted: Witnesses of the Book of Mormon<\/em> (2022), and <em>Six Days in August<\/em> (2024) \u2014 and is possibly even his subtle method of attempting to show up, supersede, and, thus, defeat his predecessor in the presidency of the Church, Gordon B. Hinckley (who presided over the <em>last<\/em> major wave of temple building).<\/p>\n<p>On the Peterson Obsession Board, in particular, my recent mention of a visit to the Villahermosa M\u00e9xico Temple inspired a small flurry of attacks on the very idea of temples. \u00a0Jesus, it was pointed out, built no temples. \u00a0Instead, they said, he served the poor. \u00a0Were he alive today, he would be establishing soup kitchens, not temples.<\/p>\n<p>But, of course, today\u2019s Restored Church builds both \u201csoup kitchens\u201d \u2014 that is, it serves the poor and the needy \u2014 and it builds temples. \u00a0And Jesus didn\u2019t build any temples because a temple already stood in Jerusalem, which he plainly venerated. \u00a0(See also Hugh Nibley\u2019s classic 1967 article on <a href=\"https:\/\/nibley.lib.byu.edu\/1967\/01\/02\/passing-of-the-primitive-church\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">\u201cThe Passing of the Primitive Church.\u201d<\/a>) \u00a0Here, for instance, is an account from the Gospel of John:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span id=\"en-KJV-26109\" class=\"text John-2-13\">And the Jews\u2019 passover was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span id=\"en-KJV-26110\" class=\"text John-2-14\">And found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting:<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span id=\"en-KJV-26111\" class=\"text John-2-15\">And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers\u2019 money, and overthrew the tables;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span id=\"en-KJV-26112\" class=\"text John-2-16\">And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father\u2019s house an house of merchandise.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span id=\"en-KJV-26113\" class=\"text John-2-17\">And his disciples remembered that it was written, The zeal of thine house hath eaten me up. \u00a0(John 2:13-17)<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>And here, representing the Synoptics, is a passage from the Gospel of Matthew:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span id=\"en-KJV-23839\" class=\"text Matt-21-12\">And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves,<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span id=\"en-KJV-23840\" class=\"text Matt-21-13\">And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves. \u00a0(Matthew 21:12-13)<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>And please note that the very next verse, Matthew 21:14, reads as follows in the King James Version: \u00a0\u201cAnd the blind and the lame came to him in the temple; and he healed them.\u201d \u00a0Reverence for the temple <em>and<\/em> concern for the needy.<\/p>\n<p>Moreover, unless one is a <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Marcionism\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Marcionite<\/a> or is simply (whether ingeniously or disingenuously) making up a god according to his own preferences and without reference to history or the Bible, it was the God of Jesus (or even, in some sense or another, Jesus himself) who commanded the building of the Jewish tabernacle and temples in the first place.<\/p>\n<p>Another argument deployed against the Latter-day Saint concept of a temple on the Obsession Board is that Jesus welcomed everybody, including publicans and sinners, into his church and that he would not have excluded anyone. \u00a0And today, the argument continues, sinners are welcomed into Catholic and other churches, whereas the self-righteous and exclusivist Latter-day Saints require certification of \u201cworthiness\u201d for entry into dedicated temples.<\/p>\n<p>But, of course, there is no worthiness requirement for entry into ordinary Latter-day Saint chapels. \u00a0And here, too, the criticism betrays willful or inadvertent innocence of history and the Bible, or even a predilection for Marcionism. \u00a0For the ancient tabernacle and its successor-temples, with such features as a \u201ccourt of the Gentiles,\u201d a court for Israelite women, a court for Israelite men, and a holy of holies into which only the high priest could enter (and, even then, only once a year) were most definitely not open to the general public.<\/p>\n<p>I don\u2019t have the time or the energy or the space here to make a full argument for what follows, but it can certainly be contended that the modern Latter-day Saint temple represents a much more <em>expansive<\/em> admission into the symbolic presence of the Lord than did its ancient Israelite counterpart: \u00a0Not merely the single high priest but all men and women who are permitted access into the temple are allowed to pass through the veil. \u00a0In Catholic churches, the priest and those who assist him are allowed proximity to the altar, in a ritual that clearly derives in some sense from the liturgy of the ancient temple. \u00a0But congregants attending a service are certainly not free to wander about the altar or to mingle with the officiants during the mass. \u00a0In the Latter-day Saint temple, nobody who enters the endowment room is barred from approaching the altar and participating in priestly activity.<\/p>\n<p>It has even been suggested by reputable scholars that, in ancient Christendom, non-Christians were excluded from the worship space during baptisms, and that the term <em>mass<\/em> derives from a Latin \u201cdismissal\u201d of unbaptized worshipers. \u00a0This can be debated, and it has been, but there is plenty of reason to doubt the claim that there have never been barriers between congregants and clergy in Christian history and practice. \u00a0In the Latter-day Saint temple, however, the congregation is composed not of mere lay spectators but of priests and priestesses.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_36752\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-36752\" style=\"width: 596px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2016\/09\/Christopher_Hitchens_ATF_Party_2005.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-36752\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2016\/09\/Christopher_Hitchens_ATF_Party_2005.jpg\" alt=\"Peter's late brother\" width=\"596\" height=\"447\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-36752\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The eponymous Christopher Hitchens, whom I actually rather enjoyed and who passed away much too young, speaking in Colorado in 2005. \u00a0(Wikimedia Commons public domain image)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>I conclude, as is my wont, with some material drawn from the <em>Christopher Hitchens Memorial \u201cHow Religion Poisons Everything\u201d File<\/em>\u2122:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.deseret.com\/magazine\/2024\/11\/10\/religious-communities-help-with-social-isolation\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cReligious communities can help solve our social isolation crisis:\u00a0In a society increasingly isolated by technology, do religious communities hold the answer?\u201d<\/a>\u00a0 This is a thoughtful essay by Josh Good, who serves as\u00a0director of the Aspen Institute\u2019s Religion &amp; Society Program.<\/p>\n<p>And I append to it this short piece from the <em>Deseret News<\/em>, written by Scott Anderson and Michael Parker, which, although it doesn\u2019t actually mention religion, seems to me to have come from somewhere in close proximity to the <em>Hitchens File<\/em>: \u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.deseret.com\/opinion\/2024\/11\/09\/utahs-moment-to-be-authentic-utah\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cOpinion: Utah\u2019s moment is about being Utah\u201d<\/a>\u00a0 See also this item from WalletHub about <a href=\"https:\/\/wallethub.com\/edu\/most-and-least-charitable-states\/8555\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cMost Charitable States.\u201d<\/a>\u00a0 I could quibble about some of its categories and metrics, but the overall high ranking of my adopted home state seems to me pretty much correct. \u00a0And what makes Utah unique? \u00a0Is it not its culture? \u00a0But what created its culture, if not its distinctive and very religiously influenced history and its demographics?<\/p>\n<p>Finally, <a href=\"https:\/\/byustudies.byu.edu\/author\/stephen-cranney\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Stephen Cranney<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/byustudies.byu.edu\/author\/joshua-coates\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Joshua Coates<\/a> have published an article in the most recent issue of <em>BYU Studies<\/em> [63\/3 (2024):35-47] that offers up truly disheartening news about the impact of religion and religious beliefs on marriage: \u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/byustudies.byu.edu\/article\/temple-marriages-are-less-likely-to-end-in-divorce\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">\u201cTemple Marriages Are Less Likely to End in Divorce:\u00a0Insights from the B. H. Roberts 2023 Current and Former Latter-day Saint Survey.\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cIt is a commonly held truism,\u201d the authors begin, \u201cthat temple marriages are less likely to end in divorce. But is it true? How do we know? The fact is that this popular belief is primarily based on surveys that are now forty to fifty years old.\u201d \u00a0However, Cranney and Coates provide much more recent evidence indicating that, painful and unfortunate as it may seem, the truism remains . . . well, <em>true<\/em>: Temple marriages <em>continue<\/em> to be less likely to end in divorce.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00a0 Newly posted on the website of the Interpreter Foundation: \u00a0Interpreter Radio Show \u2014 November 3, 2024, including \u201cThe Book of Mormon in Context\u201d for Ether 12-15 In the 3 November 2024 installment of the Interpreter Radio Show, Martin Tanner, Brent Schmidt, and Hales Swift discussed Come, Follow Me Book of Mormon lesson 48, the [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1019,"featured_media":105047,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[38191,38185,2905,788,641,38188],"class_list":["post-107791","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-deseret-peak-utah-temple","tag-ether-12","tag-latter-day-saint","tag-mormon","tag-temple","tag-tooele"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Contra Latter-day Saint Temples<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"&nbsp; 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