{"id":107803,"date":"2024-11-12T12:57:47","date_gmt":"2024-11-12T19:57:47","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/?p=107803"},"modified":"2024-11-12T12:57:47","modified_gmt":"2024-11-12T19:57:47","slug":"notes-on-latter-day-saints-and-the-third-reich-then-and-now","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/2024\/11\/notes-on-latter-day-saints-and-the-third-reich-then-and-now.html","title":{"rendered":"Notes on Latter-day Saints and the Third Reich, Then and Now"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_104369\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-104369\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2024\/03\/wyatt-new-format-logo-300x75-1.png\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-104369\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2024\/03\/wyatt-new-format-logo-300x75-1.png\" alt=\"A new look, finally!\" width=\"300\" height=\"75\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-104369\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">This is the logo of the Interpreter Foundation. Look for it on cars, cans of tuna fish, bars of soap, and imported Swiss chocolate. I\u2019m not saying that you\u2019ll find it, of course. I\u2019m merely suggesting that you look for it. There\u2019s no harm in looking, after all.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>The following note went out yesterday to the subscriber list of the Interpreter Foundation. \u00a0I\u2019ve redacted it slightly, so as not to make public the contact information of the Interpreter volunteer who is overseeing this matter. \u00a0I don\u2019t want to expose him or her to the tender mercies of the obsessive critics who monitor my blog every day and who continually seek to exploit it as a weapon. \u00a0If you are interested in helping us in the way described below, please reach out to me at danielcarlpeterson@gmail.com, and I will put you in contact with the appropriate person.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The Interpreter Foundation is in need of a volunteer coordinator for its\u00a0 social media accounts on YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok, as well as sites specific to Interpreter-sponsored films and other special projects. This is a perfect opportunity for an experienced social media designer with a few hours a week to contribute to the Foundation\u2019s mission of \u201csupporting the <a href='https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/library\/mormonism' target='_blank'>Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints<\/a> through scholarship.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The Social Media Coordinator at Interpreter Foundation will work remotely and will include the following responsibilities:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Provide content for posting on our social media channels that targets specific Journal articles and posts, with the goal of increasing readership on our websites and adding to our subscription mailing list.<\/li>\n<li>Respond to viewers\u2019 comments, with assistance as required.<\/li>\n<li>Where appropriate, provide a series of social media posts that target one website page.<\/li>\n<li>Develop a posting schedule that optimizes the day and time of the various posts.<\/li>\n<li>Identify appropriate social media groups (Facebook groups, etc.) that would be optimal target for posting content (members that correlate well with our target audience). Post on our behalf in those groups, answer questions with link to our website and\/or channels.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Submit an application, including work samples and a paragraph detailing relevant training and experience, or request more information by contacting our Volunteer Coordinator, XXXXX, at:<\/p>\n<p>email: XXXXX<br>\ntext or phone: XXXXX.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks for your continued interest in and support of the Interpreter Foundation.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<figure id=\"attachment_38218\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-38218\" style=\"width: 597px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2016\/11\/800px-KZ_Mauthausen.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-38218\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2016\/11\/800px-KZ_Mauthausen.jpg\" alt=\"The liberation of Mauthausen in May of 1945\" width=\"597\" height=\"420\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-38218\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">I mention this yet again, in order to establish my earnestness on the matter: The liberation of the Nazi concentration camp at Mauthausen, near Linz, Austria, on 6 May 1945, by elements of the Eleventh Armored Division of General George Patton\u2019s Third Army. My father was there that day, although I can\u2019t identify him in this photograph. He raised me with the express moral obligation that he himself felt, to try to help ensure that the crimes committed at Mauthausen and at other such camps must never be forgotten. And I HAVEN\u2019T forgotten.<br>(Photo from Wikimedia Commons public domain)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>I\u2019m not easily \u201ctriggered\u201d and, truth be told, this piece by Jana Riess didn\u2019t even come close. \u00a0Still, I want to respond to it, at least briefly: \u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/religionnews.com\/2024\/11\/08\/dear-mormons-this-is-how-holocausts-begin\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cDear Mormons, our history of worrying about \u2018impure blood\u2019 doesn\u2019t end well (RNS) \u2014 Latter-day Saints are once again on the wrong side of justice, the wrong side of the gospel and the wrong side of history.\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>First of all, full disclosure: \u00a0I didn\u2019t vote for Donald Trump. \u00a0(I also didn\u2019t vote for Kamala Harris.) \u00a0So, in a certain sense, I have no dog in this fight. \u00a0But I know \u2014 and I like \u2014 very many people who <em>did<\/em> vote for Mr. Trump.<\/p>\n<p>I vigorously reject any insinuation that they are Nazis, crypto-Nazis, proto-Nazis, quasi-Nazis, or in any significant way philosophically or morally <em>adjacent<\/em> to Nazis. \u00a0As we all do, they voted in the way that they did for uniquely personal mixtures of \u00a0reasons, but sympathy for Nazism was almost certainly not in the mix.<\/p>\n<p>I freely grant that Mr. Trump\u2019s rhetoric about immigrants \u201cpoisoning the blood of our country\u201d shocked and troubled me, as do dehumanizing allusions to immigrants, even illegal immigrants, that use terms related to animals and insects. \u00a0And I didn\u2019t need to wait for outcries from the news media for such rhetoric to alarm me. \u00a0I\u2019ve been to Buchenwald and Dachau and Mauthausen. \u00a0I\u2019ve visited the <em>Topographie des Terrors<\/em> and the Holocaust Memorial (the <i lang=\"de\">Denkmal f\u00fcr die ermordeten Juden Europas<\/i>)\u00a0in Berlin, and the Holocaust Museum in Washington DC. \u00a0Helmuth H\u00fcbener is a hero of mine, as is Dietrich Bonhoeffer.<\/p>\n<p>Having grown up the son of a soldier who, as a non-commissioned officer in General Patton\u2019s Third Army, participated in the liberation of one of the major Nazi concentration camps, having served a German-speaking mission, and having deep historical interests, I\u2019ve been acutely aware for my entire life of the unspeakable crimes committed by the Hitler regime, and acutely sensitive to anything \u2014 including rhetoric \u2014 that so much as faintly savors of them. \u00a0Moreover, in 2017, during President Trump\u2019s first term, I was proud to be among the nineteen signers of a brief in the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals over President Trump\u2019s proposed \u201cMuslim travel ban.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>But I also very much dislike casual accusations of Nazism or fascist tendencies. \u00a0(My anonymous Malevolent Stalker, who has thus far never met a slander against me that he has failed to endorse, likes to suggest that I\u2019m a closeted Nazi sympathizer, for example \u2014 which is a rather surreal experience for a limited-government conservative such as I, who favors free markets, strict construction of the Constitution, and federalism, and who leans libertarian.) \u00a0Such accusations are so potent that they should be used only very rarely and very carefully and only when almost unavoidable. \u00a0They are a kind of \u201cnuclear option\u201d that should not be lightly deployed. \u00a0I resent their use to stigmatize my neighbors, the members of my ward, and the apparent majority of American Latter-day Saints who voted for Donald Trump.<\/p>\n<p>Although I myself did not vote for him, I can certainly understand \u2014 and sympathize with \u2014 some of the reasons why people whom I know and respect <em>did<\/em>. \u00a0And, from my point of view, there were good reasons not to vote for Kamala Harris \u2014 as, in fact, I myself did not.<\/p>\n<p>If, as Jana Riess reports, a third of American Latter-day Saints genuinely think \u2014 in a genuinely National Socialist sense of the phrase \u2014 that immigrants are inferior and that they are \u201c\u201dpoisoning the blood of our country,\u201d that is reprehensible and must be called out and combatted. \u00a0It is a heresy against the God who \u201chath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth\u201d (Acts 17:26) and a rejection of the teaching of the Book of Mormon that the Lord \u201cinviteth them all to come unto him and partake of his goodness; and he denieth none that come unto him, black and white, bond and free, male and female; and he remembereth the heathen; and all are alike unto God, both Jew and Gentile\u201d (2 Nephi 26:33).<\/p>\n<p>But I don\u2019t believe it. \u00a0I don\u2019t believe that the people with whom I associate at church hold to anything remotely like a Nazi racial doctrine regarding immigrants. \u00a0I would require far more evidence to believe it than I\u2019ve seen thus far. \u00a0And, in my judgment, it is inflammatory and unjust even to hint otherwise.<\/p>\n<p>And one final aside: \u00a0The Helmut H\u00fcbener case is more complicated than Jana Riess acknowledges. \u00a0Perhaps I\u2019ll need to post on that matter some day, though I\u2019m not up to speed on it right now. \u00a0(It\u2019s been some years since I\u2019ve occupied myself with it.) \u00a0The relationship between German Latter-day Saints and the Third Reich is also rather more complex than she may realize. \u00a0For a very helpful recent summary of salient facts on the matter, some of which challenge her apparent views, see Mormonr\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/mormonr.org\/qnas\/aA2rfb\/latter_day_saints_and_nazi_germany\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cLatter-day Saints and Nazi Germany.\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_85783\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-85783\" style=\"width: 552px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2020\/06\/Jan_Brueghel_the_Younger_Paradise.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-85783\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2020\/06\/Jan_Brueghel_the_Younger_Paradise.jpg\" alt=\"Brueghel's view of paradise\" width=\"552\" height=\"774\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-85783\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Jan Brueghel the Younger, \u201cParadise\u201d (ca. 1650). \u00a0As long as religion exists, paradise will be beyond our reach. \u00a0(Wikimedia Commons public domain image)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Lest you begin to feel too comfortable in this religion-plagued world of ours, I need to remind you of at least a few of its horrors. \u00a0So here\u2019s something to upset you from the <em>Christopher Hitchens Memorial \u201cHow Religion Poisons Everything\u201d File<\/em>\u2122. \u00a0Clearly, the outrages continue unabated:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org\/article\/by-the-numbers-how-the-church-is-helping-to-build-self-reliance\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cBy the Numbers: How the Church Is Helping to Build Self-Reliance:\u00a0The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints seeks to help individuals build self-reliance through free courses, lifelong learning, and projects and volunteer work\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00a0 The following note went out yesterday to the subscriber list of the Interpreter Foundation. \u00a0I\u2019ve redacted it slightly, so as not to make public the contact information of the Interpreter volunteer who is overseeing this matter. \u00a0I don\u2019t want to expose him or her to the tender mercies of the obsessive critics who monitor [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1019,"featured_media":31326,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[19106,2905,788,3676,38194,719],"class_list":["post-107803","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-fascist","tag-latter-day-saint","tag-mormon","tag-nazi","tag-poisoning-the-blood","tag-trump"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Notes on Latter-day Saints and the Third Reich, Then and Now<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"&nbsp; 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