{"id":108235,"date":"2024-12-10T19:56:25","date_gmt":"2024-12-11T02:56:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/?p=108235"},"modified":"2024-12-15T16:03:35","modified_gmt":"2024-12-15T23:03:35","slug":"muslim-prayer-in-a-latter-day-saint-meetinghouse","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/2024\/12\/muslim-prayer-in-a-latter-day-saint-meetinghouse.html","title":{"rendered":"Muslim prayer in a Latter-day Saint meetinghouse?"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_108238\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-108238\" style=\"width: 576px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2024\/12\/469985645_10161621963086843_7940052957985504165_n-1-scaled.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-108238\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2024\/12\/469985645_10161621963086843_7940052957985504165_n-1-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"Doing the salat prayer in an LDS building.\" width=\"576\" height=\"768\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-108238\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">A group of Muslims at prayer in a Latter-day Saint meetinghouse. (Source of photo unknown.)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>I don\u2019t know the source of the photograph above, so I can neither give credit to the photographer nor ask his or her permission to share it. \u00a0I apologize for that. \u00a0But the photograph has apparently generated considerable conversation, not to say controversy, and I feel that I ought to say something about it. \u00a0This seems to be an opportune teaching moment.<\/p>\n<p>The photograph appears to show a group of Muslim men performing one of Islam\u2019s five daily <em>salat<\/em> prayers. \u00a0(I sometimes term them \u201critual prayers\u201d or \u201cliturgical prayers,\u201d in order to distinguish them from spontaneous <em>du\u2018a<\/em> prayers, which can be offered at any time of the day, according to individual inclination, and which don\u2019t involve the familiar formulaic gestures of prostration, etc.) \u00a0And the men are evidently performing the <em>salat<\/em>\u00a0in the Relief Society room of an ordinary Latter-day Saint meetinghouse, somewhere.<\/p>\n<p>There have been complaints about Muslims being permitted to use a Latter-day Saint building in the first place. \u00a0But that horse exited the barn door a very long time ago. \u00a0I can think of numerous occasions on which Muslims have been allowed to pray within a Latter-day Saint meetinghouse; I myself have been present on more than one such occasion. \u00a0And Latter-day Saints have been opening their meeting houses to congregations of other faiths since the nineteenth century. \u00a0Our record in this regard is a good one, and I\u2019m very proud of it.<\/p>\n<p>Another complaint about the above photographs focuses on the covering, in the background, of a painting. \u00a0It may even be a painting of Christ. \u00a0And that, the complaints say, should never have been permitted. \u00a0It\u2019s said to be an expression of Muslim disrespect for Jesus.<\/p>\n<p>But, and this is fundamentally important, <em>Muslims absolutely do not disrespect Jesus<\/em>. \u00a0They regard him as a very great prophet, sinless, born of a virgin, who will return triumphantly at the Last Day to do (successful) battle with <em>al-Dajjal<\/em>, the Antichrist. \u00a0The Qur\u2019an speaks about him in numerous passages.<\/p>\n<p>I share four of them here, in my own translations from the Arabic, because they\u2019re perfectly suited to Christmas. \u00a0The first pair concerns the Annunciation:<\/p>\n<div class=\"post-content\">\n<blockquote><p>Behold! \u00a0The angels said: \u201cO Mary! Truly God\u00a0has chosen you and purified you, and chosen you above the women of all the worlds. \u00a0O Mary! \u00a0Worship your Lord devoutly: Prostrate yourself, and bow down [in prayer] with those who bow down.\u201d \u00a0This is some of the news of the unseen that We reveal unto you [O Muhammad]: You were not with them when they cast lots with arrows as to which of them should be entrusted with the care of Mary. \u00a0Nor were you with them when they disputed [the point]. \u00a0Behold! \u00a0The angels said: \u201cO Mary! God\u00a0gives you good news of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, honored in this world and the world to come and among those nearest to God. \u00a0He shall speak to the people in the cradle and in maturity. And he shall be among the righteous.\u201d \u00a0She said: \u201cO my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man has touched me?\u201d He said: \u201cGod is like that. \u00a0He creates what He wills. \u00a0When He decrees a matter, He simply says to it \u2018Be,\u2019 and it is!\u2019 \u00a0And God\u00a0will teach him the Book and Wisdom, the Torah and the Gospel, and [appoint him] a messenger to the children of Israel. (Surat al-Imran 3:42-48).<\/p>\n<p>And mention in the Book [the story of] Mary, when she withdrew from her family to an eastern place. \u00a0She took a veil [to veil herself] from them. \u00a0Then We sent her our Spirit, and he represented himself to her as a man in all respects. \u00a0She said: \u201cI seek refuge from you with the Merciful; [do not touch me] if you are pious.\u201d He said: \u201cI am a messenger from your Lord, to give to you a pure boy.\u201d \u00a0She said: \u201cHow shall I have a son, since no man has touched me and I have not been unchaste?\u201d \u00a0He said: \u201cSo [it will be]. \u00a0Your Lord says, \u2018It is easy for Me. \u00a0And We will make him a sign unto humanity and a mercy from Us\u2019: It is a matter decreed.\u201d (Maryam 19:16-21)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>And here are two passages on the birth of Christ:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>So she conceived him, and she retired with him to a distant place. And the pains of childbirth drove her to the trunk of a palm tree: She said: \u201cOh! \u00a0Would that I had died before this! \u00a0Would that I were forgotten, in oblivion!\u201d But [a voice] cried to her from beneath [the palm-tree]: \u201cDo not be sorrowful! \u00a0Your Lord has provided a rivulet beneath you. \u00a0Shake the trunk of the palm-tree towards yourself: It will drop fresh ripe dates upon you. \u00a0So eat and drink and cool your eye. And if you see anybody, say, \u2018I have vowed a fast to the Merciful, and I will not speak with any human being today.\u2019\u201d And then she brought him to her people, carrying him. \u00a0They said: \u201cO Mary! truly you have brought an amazing thing! O sister of Aaron! \u00a0Your father was not an evil man, nor was your mother an unchaste woman!\u201d \u00a0So she pointed to him. \u00a0They said: \u201cHow can we talk to a child in the cradle?\u201d \u00a0He said: \u201cTruly I am the servant of God: He has given me the Book and made me a prophet; and He has made me blessed wherever I am, and has enjoined upon me prayer and charity as long as I live; (He) has made me kind to my mother, and not overbearing or miserable; so peace is on me the day I was born, the day that I die, and the day that I shall be raised up alive!\u201d (Maryam 19:22-33)<\/p>\n<p>And We made the son of Mary and his mother a sign. \u00a0We gave them both shelter on high ground, affording rest and security and furnished with springs (Al-Mu\u2019minun 23:50).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>So why, if they indeed did such a thing, would a group of praying Muslims cover up a painting of Jesus?<\/p>\n<p>Islam is an aniconic religion; it forbids the use of images in worship. \u00a0It does not permit, and it does not produce, images of God. \u00a0There may be an exception somewhere, I suppose, but I have personally never seen an image of a prophet in the worship space of a mosque. \u00a0Never. \u00a0And I don\u2019t <em>expect<\/em> to see one. \u00a0Muslims have a deep abhorrence of idolatry, which Islam regards pretty much as the ultimate and unforgivable sin. \u00a0So you will not see portraits of Jesus, or of Muhammad, in a mosque prayer hall.<\/p>\n<p>One more note about the photograph above. \u00a0Some folks are apparently concerned that the Muslims shown are praying to Allah, rather than to God. \u00a0But this is a merely linguistic matter, no more significant than the fact that German-speaking Latter-day Saints pray to <em>Gott<\/em>, that French-speaking Latter-day Saints pray to <em>Dieu<\/em>, and that Spanish-speaking Latter-day Saints pray to <em>Dios<\/em>\u00a0rather than to the English <em>God<\/em>. \u00a0<em>Allah<\/em> isn\u2019t the proper name of some exotic foreign deity; it\u2019s simply the Arabic equivalent of the English word <em>God <\/em>\u2014 it\u2019s closely related to the Hebrew word <em>Elohim<\/em> \u2013and it\u2019s the word that\u2019s used in all Arabic translations of the Bible as well as in the Arabic versions of the Book of Mormon, the Doctrine and Covenants, and the Pearl of Great Price.<\/p>\n<p>The Allah of the Our\u2018an \u2014 exactly like the Allah of the Bible \u2014 created the earth in six days, placed Adam and Eve in the Garden, saved Noah from the Flood, called a series of prophets including Abraham and Moses, and sent Jesus. \u00a0The Muslims shown in the photograph are praying to the same God that is worshiped by Jews and Christians, and they\u2019re using the same word for deity that is used by Arabic-speaking Christians and Jews.<\/p>\n<div class=\"clear\">I am delighted that, once again, my church is generously offering others a space in which to pray and to worship.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<figure id=\"attachment_89318\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-89318\" style=\"width: 597px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2020\/11\/1600px-Broadcasting_a_radio_play_at_NBC_studio.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-89318\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2020\/11\/1600px-Broadcasting_a_radio_play_at_NBC_studio.jpg\" alt=\"IRS roundtable\" width=\"597\" height=\"383\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-89318\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Interpreter Foundation volunteers gather in our state of the art studio for a scripture roundtable discussion on the weekly Interpreter Radio Show. (Wikimedia Commons public domain image)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/interpreterfoundation.org\/interpreter-radio-show-december-1-2024\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Interpreter Radio Show \u2014December 1, 2024, including The Book of Mormon in Context for Christmas<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>In the 1 December 2024 episode of the Interpreter Radio Show, the discussants were Martin Tanner, Brent Schmidt, and Hales Swift, who talked about <em>Come, Follow Me<\/em> Book of Mormon lesson 52 and Christmas. You can listen to or download the 1 December 2024 broadcast of the Interpreter Radio Show at the link provided. \u00a0The recordings have been edited to remove commercial breaks.<\/p>\n<p>The Interpreter Radio Show can be heard on Sunday evenings from 7 to 9 PM (MDT), on K-TALK, AM 1640, or you can listen live on the Internet at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ktalkmedia.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\">ktalkmedia.com<\/a>.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_17766\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-17766\" style=\"width: 499px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2015\/02\/Thanksgiving_freedom_mosaic.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-17766\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2015\/02\/Thanksgiving_freedom_mosaic.jpg\" alt=\"Rockwell Golden Rule mosaic\" width=\"499\" height=\"550\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-17766\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Golden Rule Mosaic at Thanks-Giving Square in Dallas, Texas (based upon a painting by Norman Rockwell)<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/blockquote>\n<p>Here, for your appalled horror, are a couple of items that I\u2019ve recently retrieved from the <em>Christopher Hitchens Memorial \u201cHow Religion Poisons Everything\u201d File<\/em>\u2122:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><a href=\"https:\/\/news-africa.churchofjesuschrist.org\/article\/giving-machines-grand-opening-in-nairobi-kenya\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cFirst Giving Machines in Africa Open in Nairobi, Kenya:\u00a0Nairobi, Kenya Becomes First and Only City in Africa with Giving Machines\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p><em>The Daily News<\/em> of Longview, Washington:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/tdn.com\/news\/local\/food-bank-donation-mormon-church\/article_d8c449aa-b653-11ef-854a-b34c61c78e45.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cMormon church donates 30K pounds of food to area food bank\u201d<\/a>:<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_37675\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-37675\" style=\"width: 597px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2016\/10\/800px-Hotel_Dullemond_Laag-Soeren.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-37675\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2016\/10\/800px-Hotel_Dullemond_Laag-Soeren.jpg\" alt=\"Abandoned home in the Netherlands or someplace.\" width=\"597\" height=\"447\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-37675\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The paint is a little less fresh and the garden a bit less green than they were when this photo was taken early this past summer, but we love our house. Unfortunately, we\u2019re a bit isolated. Shortly after I moved in, all of the neighbors abandoned their homes. Dogs continued to howl for a while, and cats to screech, but, eventually, they too left. Cowards, all of them. \u00a0(Wikimedia Commons public domain photograph)<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/blockquote>\n<p>I mentioned here <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/2024\/12\/thoughts-on-syria-and-on-a-slander.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">yesterday<\/a> that a member of the cast over at the Peterson Obsession Board was claiming that I tried, several years ago, to deliberately destroy the career and the family of his best friend, who was teaching at BYU at the time. \u00a0I denied having ever attempted anything of the kind, and said that I have literally no idea what he\u2019s talking about.<\/p>\n<p>I wish that I didn\u2019t have to spend time and energy contradicting such accusations. \u00a0But I do. \u00a0I don\u2019t appreciate character assassination, and this charge is flatly not true. \u00a0And I already contradicted precisely the same accusation from him somewhat more than a year ago, on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/2023\/10\/correcting-errors.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">30 October 2023<\/a> and again, just to make sure that he was aware of my denial, on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/2023\/10\/hanging-out-with-sir-winston-just-78-years-too-late.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">31 October 2023:<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I\u2019ve been mildly puzzled for years now about the hostile personal fixation that some pseudonymous folks over at the Peterson Obsession Board seem to have on me. \u00a0Well, I finally have a clue with regard to one of them \u2014 the one that I\u2019ve identified here as <em>Everybody\u2019s WC<\/em> \u2014 who claims that he hates me because of a multiyear crusade of defamation and slander and ceaseless personal attacks that I conducted against his best friend in an attempt to get that friend fired. \u00a0Having seen the stress, the hurt, and the frustration that his friend and his friend\u2019s family suffered over those years, Everybody\u2019s WC has concluded that I am, in his words, \u201cpure evil.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>That would be a somewhat understandable reaction, I suppose, if a bit overwrought. \u00a0But\u00a0I have literally no idea what he\u2019s talking about. \u00a0I can think of no such case. \u00a0Even after searching through all of the dim recesses of my mind, I can\u2019t think of any instance in which I\u2019ve ever sought to have anybody fired. \u00a0Moreover, I can\u2019t even imagine myself doing such a thing. \u00a0What on earth does he have in mind?<\/p>\n<p>I really would like to know. \u00a0Seriously. \u00a0So I invite him, or some surrogate for him, either to contact me privately or to post something here in the comments section so that I can understand his accusation. \u00a0As it is, I haven\u2019t the foggiest idea.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>His favored response, apparently, is to go silent. \u00a0He waits for a lengthy period of time, and then he repeats the accusation. \u00a0So I repeat my denial: \u00a0The claim is false. \u00a0I have never sought to destroy anybody\u2019s family, nor to destroy anybody\u2019s career. \u00a0It isn\u2019t in my character or my nature to do anything remotely of the kind. \u00a0Enough is enough. \u00a0My accuser is either misinformed or he\u2019s lying. \u00a0It\u2019s really that simple.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\">Posted from Newport Beach, California<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00a0 I don\u2019t know the source of the photograph above, so I can neither give credit to the photographer nor ask his or her permission to share it. \u00a0I apologize for that. \u00a0But the photograph has apparently generated considerable conversation, not to say controversy, and I feel that I ought to say something about it. 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