{"id":108283,"date":"2024-12-14T15:34:48","date_gmt":"2024-12-14T22:34:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/?p=108283"},"modified":"2024-12-14T15:44:07","modified_gmt":"2024-12-14T22:44:07","slug":"this-will-probably-do-little-or-no-good","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/2024\/12\/this-will-probably-do-little-or-no-good.html","title":{"rendered":"This will probably do little or no good."},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_19090\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-19090\" style=\"width: 600px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2015\/03\/1092020.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-19090\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2015\/03\/1092020.jpg\" alt=\"UAE's LDS meetinghouse\" width=\"600\" height=\"336\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-19090\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Abu Dhabi Stake Center in the United Arab Emirates (Wikimedia Commons public domain image)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>For the better part of the past week, several places in social media have been enflamed with controversy regarding <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/2024\/12\/muslim-prayer-in-a-latter-day-saint-meetinghouse.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">a photograph showing a group of Muslims praying<\/a> in what is obviously a Latter-day Saint meetinghouse. \u00a0On the wall in the background, what appears to be a painting (perhaps a painting of Jesus, but perhaps not) has been covered over (perhaps by the Muslims or perhaps by their Latter-day Saint hosts).<\/p>\n<p>Frankly, I\u2019ve been discouraged and disheartened by some of the responses to the issue. \u00a0Many have been supportive of the idea of permitting others to pray in one of our buildings. \u00a0(This has actually happened many times, in many locations, over many years.) \u00a0But some have been concerned, and a few have been vehemently opposed. \u00a0What I\u2019ve found most depressing has been the militant ignorance of some of the opponents. \u00a0(I confess, though, that it\u2019s amusing to be told by a few of them that I need to read the Qur\u2019an and learn something about Islam; I\u2019ve read the Qur\u2019an and taught the Qur\u2019an \u2014 in both English translation and Arabic \u2014 more times than I can count, and I\u2019ve taught and written about Islam for decades. \u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.churchofjesuschrist.org\/study\/ensign\/2018\/04\/understanding-islam?lang=eng\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">This article in the <em>Ensign<\/em><\/a> was specifically requested by the First Presidency, which ought to suggest at least something of how the leaders of the <a href='https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/library\/mormonism' target='_blank'>Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints<\/a> regard Islam and choose to approach the topic.)<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ve read some astonishing claims that have been advanced with absolute assurance. \u00a0Here are some of them, and I\u2019m only picking a few of the more obviously crazy declarations:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Muslims worship Muhammad.<\/li>\n<li>Muslims are commanded to kill Christians.<\/li>\n<li><em>Allah<\/em> is the name of a false god, like <em>Apollo<\/em> or <em>Zeus<\/em>.<\/li>\n<li>Islam is to be imposed by force.<\/li>\n<li>The prominent philosophers, scientists, and mathematicians of the Islamic golden age were mostly Jews and Christians.<\/li>\n<li>Jews and Christians have always been suppressed by Islamic rule.<\/li>\n<li>Islam has always smothered progress and Islamic civilization has contributed nothing to the world.<\/li>\n<li>Christians are forbidden to worship in many Islamic countries.<\/li>\n<li>Lebanon was a wonderful place until Muslims began to move into it (which apparently occurred fairly recently).<\/li>\n<li>Islam despises Jesus.<\/li>\n<li><em>Islam<\/em> means \u201csubmission,\u201d which means submission to a Muslim ruler.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Like an alcoholic walking by the swinging doors of a tavern, I find it almost irresistibly tempting to respond to some of this.<\/p>\n<p>One fellow, imagining himself to be delivering the death blow against me, demanded whether I was seriously arguing that Jesus and Allah are the same person. \u00a0I responded that, yes, that was precisely what I was arguing \u2014 I\u2019m leaving aside, for the moment, the distinction between Father and Son \u2014 and that I was doing so on the basis of the first verse of the Gospel of John, where \u201cthe Word\u201d is almost universally understood by Christians as a reference to Jesus Christ. \u00a0I provide the passage here first in the King James translation, and then in a standard Arabic rendering:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. (John 1:1)<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"chapter-1\"><span class=\"text John-1-1\"><span class=\"chapternum\">1\u00a0<\/span>\u0641\u0650\u064a \u0627\u0644\u0628\u064e\u062f\u0652\u0621\u0650 \u0643\u064e\u0627\u0646\u064e \u0627\u0644\u0643\u064e\u0644\u0650\u0645\u064e\u0629\u064f<\/span><\/span><br>\n<span class=\"text John-1-1\">\u0648\u064e\u0643\u064e\u0627\u0646\u064e \u0627\u0644\u0643\u064e\u0644\u0650\u0645\u064e\u0629\u064f \u0645\u064e\u0639\u064e \u0627\u0644\u0644\u0647\u0650\u060c<\/span><br>\n<span class=\"text John-1-1\">\u0648\u064e\u0643\u064e\u0627\u0646\u064e \u0627\u0644\u0643\u064e\u0644\u0650\u0645\u064e\u0629\u064f \u0647\u064f\u0648\u064e \u0627\u0644\u0644\u0647\u064e.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Now, I \u201cmerge\u201d them:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God [<em>Allah<\/em>], and the Word was God [<em>Allah<\/em>]. (John 1:1)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>QED.<\/p>\n<p>Of course, we can do similar things with other biblical passages, to say nothing of the other Standard Works. \u00a0In Genesis 1:1, who created the heavens and the earth? \u00a0The Arabic versions of the Bible all make it perfectly clear that it was Allah who created the heavens and the earth. \u00a0Arabic-speaking Jews and Christians all worship Allah, just as the German-speakers who still worship at all worship <em>Gott<\/em>, and French-speakers worship <em>Dieu<\/em> and Spanish-speakers worship <em>Dios<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>As to the claim that Christians aren\u2019t allowed to worship in many Islamic nations, I want to add an additional comment: \u00a0Maybe Taliban-ruled Afghanistan comes closest to being an officially Christian-free Islamic State. \u00a0But it\u2019s an exceptionally extreme and toxic place in every regard. \u00a0The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has organized units \u2014 wards and stakes as well as branches and districts \u2014 that meet on the Arabian Peninsula (including Saudi Arabia), in Lebanon, Pakistan, Jordan, Turkey, Egypt, Malaysia, and etc. I\u2019ve worshiped in several of them myself. Temples have been announced for the United Arab Emirates and for Jakarta, Indonesia. And I like the design of the stake center in Abu Dhabi, shown above. \u00a0It\u2019s unique and, I think, quite beautiful.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_32821\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-32821\" style=\"width: 597px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2016\/04\/E240_1.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-32821\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2016\/04\/E240_1.jpg\" alt=\"Not necessarily Mary\" width=\"597\" height=\"705\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-32821\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">\u201cInnocence,\u201d by William-Adolphe Bouguereau (d. 1905)<br>Wikimedia Commons public domain image<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Five years ago, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints produced <a href=\"https:\/\/www.churchofjesuschrist.org\/inspiration\/ever-seen-this-christmas-video?lang=eng\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">an eighteen-minute video of the Christmas nativity story<\/a>. \u00a0It is very, very well done. \u00a0A minor thing: I like the fact that the people in it actually look like natives of the Middle East rather than like Swedes. \u00a0I like the unglamorized look of the Middle East as the film depicts its setting. \u00a0And, unsentimental and hard-hearted though I am, near the conclusion of the video I find the emotional look on the adoring face of the \u201clead\u201d Wise Man deeply moving.<\/p>\n<p>There is nothing specifically Latter-day Saint about this video. \u00a0I hope that, sometime between now and the close of Christmas Day, you\u2019ll take the opportunity to watch it \u2014 perhaps with your family \u2014 and possible even to share it with others, or to call attention to it, online. \u00a0It\u2019s a good way of reminding ourselves what Christmas is really about.<\/p>\n<p>For today\u2019s piece of Christmas music, I offer something wonderfully beautiful from one of the most amazing singers that I\u2019ve ever heard:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Oqm-hf1LDV4\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Oqm-hf1LDV4<\/a><\/p>\n<p>The lyrics vary. \u00a0(Actually, the song was originally written in French.\u00a0 So part of that is simply variation in translations.) \u00a0But here\u2019s one version:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">1. Whence is that goodly fragrance flowing,<\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> Stealing our senses all away,<\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> never the like did come a-blowing,<\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> Shepherds, in flow\u2019ry fields of May,<\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> Whence is that goodly fragrance flowing,<\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> Stealing our senses all away.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">2. What is that light so brilliant, breaking<\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> Here in the night across our eyes.<\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> Never so bright, the day-star waking,<\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> Started to climb the morning skies!<\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> What is that light so brilliant, breaking,<\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> Here in the night across our eyes.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"color: #000000;\" align=\"left\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">3. Bethlehem! there in manger lying,<\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> Find your Redeemer haste away,<\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> Run ye with eager footsteps vieing!<\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> Worship the Saviour born today.<\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> Bethlehem! there in manger lying,<\/span><br>\n<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> Find your Redeemer haste away.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\">Posted from Newport Beach, California<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00a0 For the better part of the past week, several places in social media have been enflamed with controversy regarding a photograph showing a group of Muslims praying in what is obviously a Latter-day Saint meetinghouse. \u00a0On the wall in the background, what appears to be a painting (perhaps a painting of Jesus, but perhaps [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1019,"featured_media":32821,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[2761,870,66,1369,2905,788],"class_list":["post-108283","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-allah","tag-christianity","tag-islam","tag-jesus","tag-latter-day-saint","tag-mormon"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>This will probably do little or no good.<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"&nbsp; 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