{"id":108920,"date":"2025-01-28T22:47:37","date_gmt":"2025-01-29T05:47:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/?p=108920"},"modified":"2025-01-28T22:47:37","modified_gmt":"2025-01-29T05:47:37","slug":"archaeologically-recovering-some-lectures-from-hugh-nibley","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/2025\/01\/archaeologically-recovering-some-lectures-from-hugh-nibley.html","title":{"rendered":"Archaeologically recovering some lectures from Hugh Nibley"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_83031\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-83031\" style=\"width: 597px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2020\/02\/71915862_681230195711273_2163883826000953344_n.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-83031\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2020\/02\/71915862_681230195711273_2163883826000953344_n.jpg\" alt='James Jordan captures Joseph Smith \"backstage\"' width=\"597\" height=\"448\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-83031\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Joseph Smith (Paul Wuthrich) on the set of the Interpreter Foundation\u2019s 2021 Witnesses film project. (Still photograph by James Jordan). He recently starred in T. C. Christensen\u2019s \u201cEscape from Germany\u201d and reprised his role as Joseph Smith in the Interpreter Foundation\u2019s \u201cSix Days in August.\u201d \u00a0Come 20 April 2025, he will appear in the title role in T.C. Christensen\u2019s \u201cRaising the Bar: The Alma Richards Story.\u201d<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Here is another resource that you might find of value for your study and\/or your teaching of the 2025 <em>Come, Follow Me<\/em> curriculum \u2014 especially as we move, in February, toward consideration of the witnesses to the Book of Mormon: \u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=VO8WpMBAr3M\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cEpisode 18: Is Eyewitness Testimony Reliable?\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span class=\"yt-core-attributed-string--link-inherit-color\" dir=\"auto\">Witnesses of the Book of Mormon\u2014Insights Episode 18: Is Eyewitness Testimony Reliable? Eyewitness testimony is used around the world in courts of law. But there\u2019s a movement today that calls into question the reliability of eyewitness testimony. Is it true that eyewitness testimony is unreliable\u2014and thus invalid? This is Episode 18 of a series compiled from the many interviews conducted during the course of the Witnesses film project. . . . \u00a0These additional resources are hosted by Camrey Bagley Fox, who played Emma Smith in <em>Witnesses<\/em>, as she introduces and visits with a variety of experts. These individuals answer questions or address accusations against the witnesses, also helping viewers understand the context of the times in which the witnesses lived. In this particular installment we feature Jeff Bradshaw, Senior Research Scientist, Florida Institute for Human and Machine Cognition. For more information, go to <\/span><span class=\"yt-core-attributed-string--link-inherit-color\" dir=\"auto\"><a class=\"yt-core-attributed-string__link yt-core-attributed-string__link--call-to-action-color decorated-link\" tabindex=\"0\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/redirect?event=video_description&amp;redir_token=QUFFLUhqa29tWUV2YnU5bzRJSmpBS2hkRnRUdGI2dnloQXxBQ3Jtc0tsM2tQY1BseElRVUc0THI5Um03bGRaaEd6X2NiekNyRG9sVFVmNUZycURCQnJ5aktxbGlad2RrVGZYMy1VLWJyUVIxUGhmS2EzNFRFRGtkbFp3Nlh0NTdmSW9SNGRLZnNDSi1IeXd0Z181T05ZMHU3dw&amp;q=https%3A%2F%2Fwitnessesofthebookofmormon.org%2F&amp;v=VO8WpMBAr3M\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/witnessesofthebookofmormon.org\/<\/a><\/span><span class=\"yt-core-attributed-string--link-inherit-color\" dir=\"auto\">. Learn about the documentary movie <em>Undaunted\u2014Witnesses of the Book of Mormon<\/em> at <\/span><span class=\"yt-core-attributed-string--link-inherit-color\" dir=\"auto\"><a class=\"yt-core-attributed-string__link yt-core-attributed-string__link--call-to-action-color decorated-link\" tabindex=\"0\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/redirect?event=video_description&amp;redir_token=QUFFLUhqbHhXNk9hZkF2Uk5aMXp5dnRUVEdoOUdiaVh4d3xBQ3Jtc0tsS0Z6a2JiSnVvODIzTDFHS2VMUkZlU3ZDRHg1WFVtZGkzQTFRNDdlUEdZQ0daXzFza0dFM1lDcmhiV1UyQjRPaEQ4RmNsckoxUkltX2dTbkNFSkNFTnF1TmVVcmRxRnVucDIwOW9fRmdjQ1h1Q2NZYw&amp;q=https%3A%2F%2Fwitnessesundaunted.com%2F&amp;v=VO8WpMBAr3M\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/witnessesundaunted.com\/<\/a><\/span><span class=\"yt-core-attributed-string--link-inherit-color\" dir=\"auto\">.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>And, by the way, have I mentioned yet that the Interpreter Foundation\u2019s 2022 docudrama, <em>Undaunted<\/em>, is now available for free streaming at <a href=\"https:\/\/witnessesfilm.com\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">The Witnesses Initiative<\/a>?<\/p>\n<p>Please be aware, too, that the Foundation\u2019s 2024 dramatic film <a href=\"http:\/\/www.samuelgoldwynfilms.com\/six-days-in-august\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><em>Six Days in August<\/em> <\/a>is currently intended to begin streaming \u2014 though not, alas, for free \u2014 on Friday, 31 January. \u00a0(I\u2019ll share specific details when I have them.)<\/p>\n<p>Moreover, here are two more items from the notoriously comatose Interpreter Foundation:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/interpreterfoundation.org\/cfm-study-and-teaching-helps-dc-2025-lesson-6\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><em>Come, Follow Me<\/em> \u2014 D&amp;C Study and Teaching Helps (2025): Doctrine and Covenants 6\u20139: February 3\u20139: \u201cThis Is the Spirit of Revelation\u201d<\/a>\u00a0 Jonn Claybaugh generously provides yet another of his series of concise aids for teachers and students of the <em>Come, Follow Me<\/em> curriculum.<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/interpreterfoundation.org\/cfm-nibley-lectures-come-follow-me-2025-lesson-6\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Nibley Lectures: <em>Come, Follow Me<\/em> Doctrine and Covenants Lesson 6 (2025): <em>\u201cThis Is the Spirit of Revelation\u201d: <\/em>D&amp;C 6-9.<\/a> \u00a0During 1978, 1979, and 1980, Hugh Nibley taught a Doctrine and Covenants Sunday School class. Cassette recordings were made of these classes and some have survived and were recently digitized by Steve Whitlock. Most of the tapes were in pretty bad condition. The original recordings usually don\u2019t stop or start at the beginning of the class and there is some background noise. Volumes vary, probably depending upon where the recorder was placed in the room. Many are very low volume but in most cases it\u2019s possible to understand the words. In a couple of cases the ends of one class were put on some space left over from a different class. There\u2019s some mixup around D&amp;C 90-100 that couldn\u2019t be figured out so those recordings are as they were on the tapes. Even with these flaws and missing classes, we believe these these will be interesting to listen to and valuable to your <em>Come, Follow Me<\/em> study program.This week we have three Lectures relevant to the February 3 \u2013 9 <em>Come, Follow Me<\/em> lesson, \u201cThis Is the Spirit of Revelation,\u201d covering D&amp;C 6-9.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<figure id=\"attachment_39204\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-39204\" style=\"width: 597px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2017\/01\/Brigham-young.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-39204\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2017\/01\/Brigham-young.jpg\" alt=\"BY ca. 1850\" width=\"597\" height=\"627\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-39204\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Brigham Young, in roughly 1850 \u00a0(Public domain image by unknown photographer)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>From the <em>Church News<\/em> podcast: \u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.thechurchnews.com\/podcast\/2025\/01\/28\/episode-225-matt-grow-church-history-mountain-meadows-saints\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cEpisode 225: Church historian Matt Grow encourages peacemaking amid historical misrepresentation:\u00a0Sarah Jane Weaver hosts this important episode on peacemaking despite violent rhetoric.\u201d<\/a> \u00a0Here is an excerpt from the interview that pleased me very much. \u00a0One of our hopes in making <em>Six Days in August<\/em> was for audiences to recognize that Brigham Young was a highly spiritual man, and not merely an effective master of practical action:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph\"><b>Sarah Jane Weaver:<\/b> As Ryan indicated, we\u2019re here to talk about the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.deseret.com\/faith\/2025\/01\/17\/what-american-primeval-gets-wrong-about-brigham-young\/?__hstc=264139411.99172e0b2714e8b5ab24de0bfe7fe9bd.1735530451859.1738117887109.1738125782640.79&amp;__hssc=264139411.3.1738125782640&amp;__hsfp=436954384\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\"><u>new Netflix series<\/u><\/a> that has actually put a spotlight on early Church history. And the show is set in the 1850s and depicts <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thechurchnews.com\/1993\/2\/27\/23258634\/brigham-young-an-uncommon-common-man-he-rose-from-obscurity-to-become-mighty\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\"><u>Brigham Young<\/u><\/a>, the Shoshone and other indigenous groups, and Latter-day Saints as being very violent. Is this really what the early West was like?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph\"><b>Matt Grow:<\/b> I think there\u2019s a lot of inaccuracies in this portrayal. And I think it makes sense for us to begin with Brigham Young himself, putting him in a little bit of context so that we can understand his portrayal in this series. First of all, we have to understand how deeply Brigham Young believed in the gospel of Jesus Christ. He was a believer. He was a believer from his early days and all through his life. He considered himself a disciple of the Prince of Peace. And some want to argue \u2014 and this has always been the argument about Brigham Young \u2014 that he was mainly a practical leader rather than a spiritual leader. And that just does injustice to Brigham. He was a believer.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-paragraph\">And some over time have compared him to Moses, that he was an American Moses that led his people out of one place and into another place. I think another appropriate comparison is that he\u2019s an American Enoch. And what I mean by that is he was trying to build a people, build a city. And in his mind, it was the sort of city that we read about in the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.churchofjesuschrist.org\/study\/scriptures\/pgp?lang=eng\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\"><u>Pearl of Great Price<\/u><\/a> in the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.churchofjesuschrist.org\/study\/scriptures\/pgp\/moses?lang=eng\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\"><u>book of Moses<\/u><\/a>, that it would be a place of peace, a place of safety, a place where there would be <a href=\"https:\/\/www.churchofjesuschrist.org\/study\/scriptures\/pgp\/moses\/7?lang=eng&amp;id=p18#p18\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\"><u>no poor among them, a place of unity<\/u><\/a>. That was really what Brigham Young was after.<\/p>\n<p>And if we look at the whole of his life, we see that there were several critical junctures where he proactively chose peace to avoid violence. . . .<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I think it important to note \u2014 and I believe that I\u2019ve mentioned this here previously \u2014 that <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/2024\/08\/on-a-prophet-and-an-antichrist.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">LaJean Carruth<\/a>, too, prefers to call Brigham Young an aspiring \u201cAmerican Enoch,\u201d and \u00a0actually <em>objects<\/em> to labeling him an \u201cAmerican Moses.\u201d \u00a0That, she says, is not how he saw himself.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_108923\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-108923\" style=\"width: 597px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2025\/01\/Mckinneywater-scaled.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-108923\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2025\/01\/Mckinneywater-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"We're gonna sue 'em\" width=\"597\" height=\"448\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-108923\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">A water tower in McKinney, Texas (Wikimedia Commons public domain image)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>This is very disappointing: \u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.deseret.com\/faith\/2025\/01\/27\/church-fairview-town-mckinney-texas-temple-rluipa\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cChurch says Texas town not standing by settlement reached for the McKinney Texas Temple:\u00a0The town of Fairview and The <a href='https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/library\/mormonism' target='_blank'>Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints<\/a> negotiated a smaller temple in November. The agreement may be unraveling and the church may seek legal remedy\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\">Posted from Las Vegas, Nevada<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00a0 Here is another resource that you might find of value for your study and\/or your teaching of the 2025 Come, Follow Me curriculum \u2014 especially as we move, in February, toward consideration of the witnesses to the Book of Mormon: \u00a0\u201cEpisode 18: Is Eyewitness Testimony Reliable?\u201d Witnesses of the Book of Mormon\u2014Insights Episode 18: [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1019,"featured_media":106206,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[38372,56,292,38417,2905,788],"class_list":["post-108920","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-american-primeval","tag-book-of-mormon","tag-brigham-young","tag-eyewitness-testimony","tag-latter-day-saint","tag-mormon"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Archaeologically recovering some lectures from Hugh Nibley<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"&nbsp; 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