{"id":110897,"date":"2025-06-27T13:23:26","date_gmt":"2025-06-27T19:23:26","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/?p=110897"},"modified":"2025-06-27T13:23:26","modified_gmt":"2025-06-27T19:23:26","slug":"181-years-ago-today","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/2025\/06\/181-years-ago-today.html","title":{"rendered":"181 Years Ago, Today"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_106197\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-106197\" style=\"width: 597px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2024\/07\/M1UPn1FY-scaled.jpeg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-106197\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2024\/07\/M1UPn1FY-scaled.jpeg\" alt=\"mob scene\" width=\"597\" height=\"252\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-106197\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Spiritual forerunners of some of today\u2019s most hostile critics of the Restoration, as depicted in a scene from the 2024 Interpreter Foundation film \u201cSix Days in August.\u201d<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Today, 27 June, is the 181st anniversary of the martyrdom of Joseph and Hyrum Smith. \u00a0I haven\u2019t been looking for such things, but I <em>have<\/em> already seen one celebratory note about the murders. \u00a0It was posted by a former member of the <a href='https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/library\/mormonism' target='_blank'>Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints<\/a>, and it puts me in mind of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.biblegateway.com\/passage\/?search=Matthew%207%3A16-20&amp;version=KJV\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Matthew 7:16-20<\/a>.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_39282\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-39282\" style=\"width: 597px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2017\/01\/675px-Reproduction_of_Bonampak_murals_center_2.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-39282\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2017\/01\/675px-Reproduction_of_Bonampak_murals_center_2.jpg\" alt=\"Bonampak mural war scene\" width=\"597\" height=\"530\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-39282\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">A scene of ancient Mesoamerican warfare in a detail from a reproduction of one of the murals at Bonampak, Chiapas, Mexico \u00a0(Wikimedia Commons public domain image)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>This article, written by <a href=\"https:\/\/journal.interpreterfoundation.org\/author\/mattr\/?journal\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Matthew Roper<\/a>, went up earlier today in <em>Interpreter: A Journal of Latter-day Saint Faith and Scholarship<\/em>: <a href=\"https:\/\/journal.interpreterfoundation.org\/anachronisms-accidental-evidence-in-book-of-mormon-criticisms-chapter-9-concluding-observations\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><em>Anachronisms: Accidental Evidence in Book of Mormon Criticisms<\/em>, Chapter 9, \u201cConcluding Observations\u201d<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>[<strong>Editor\u2019s Note:<\/strong> <em>We are pleased to present chapter 9 from a book entitled <\/em>Anachronisms: Accidental Evidence in Book of Mormon Criticisms. <em>It is presented in serialized form in this volume of<\/em> Interpreter: A Journal of Latter-day Saint Faith and Scholarship<em>. This is immediately followed by a selected bibliography for the book.<\/em>]<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Incidentally, when Matt Roper\u2019s series of articles began to appear in <em>Interpreter<\/em> roughly two months ago, I saw a few critics deriding his effort. \u00a0If these represent the best arguments for the historicity of the Book of Mormon, two or three people chortled, then the claims to historical authenticity of the Book of Mormon are in truly pathetic shape. \u00a0But this derision missed the point of the enterprise, which wasn\u2019t primarily to present a collection of \u201cthe strongest evidences\u201d for the claims of the book but, rather, to argue that, to a considerable extent, objections raised against the historicity of the book appear to have been neutralized. \u00a0That some of the facets of the book where this has happened have now, paradoxically, become areas of actual <em>strength<\/em> for its claims is interesting and significant but was never a principal focus or goal. \u00a0Shoring up seeming deficiencies in a case or an argument is a distinct effort from emphasizing the facts that seem to be most persuasive in its favor. \u00a0Both are vital, but they should not be confused. \u00a0In football, a good defense is very important, and it may even sometimes score a touchdown. \u00a0But it doesn\u2019t replace a strong offense.<\/p>\n<p>Matt Roper\u2019s article is accompanied in the journal today by <a href=\"https:\/\/journal.interpreterfoundation.org\/expanding-the-descriptive-vocabulary-for-the-translation-of-the-book-of-mormon\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cExpanding the Descriptive Vocabulary for the Translation of the Book of Mormon,\u201d<\/a> written by <a href=\"https:\/\/journal.interpreterfoundation.org\/author\/brant\/?journal\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Brant A. Gardner<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Abstract: <\/strong><em>There are many questions that can be asked about the translation of the Book of Mormon. This paper focuses on a single question: What was the relationship between the English translation and the Nephite text? Of course, without the original, we must speculate, but it is suggested that there are two concepts used in modern translation theories that can help us understand why certain elements appear in the English translation that might appear to have a questionable relationship to an ancient Nephite text.<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>See also <a href=\"https:\/\/interpreterfoundation.org\/interpreting-interpreter-a-localized-book-of-mormon\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cInterpreting <em>Interpreter<\/em>: A Localized Book of Mormon,\u201d<\/a> written by <a href=\"https:\/\/interpreterfoundation.org\/author\/kylerr\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Kyler Rasmussen<\/a><\/p>\n<div>\n<blockquote><p>This post is a summary of the article \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/interpreterfoundation.org\/expanding-the-descriptive-vocabulary-for-the-translation-of-the-book-of-mormon\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\">Expanding the Descriptive Vocabulary for the Translation of the Book of Mormon<\/a>\u201d by Brant A. Gardner in Volume 66 of <em>Interpreter: A Journal of Latter-day Saint Faith and Scholarship<\/em>. All of the Interpreting <em>Interpreter<\/em> articles may be seen at <a href=\"https:\/\/interpreterfoundation.org\/category\/summaries\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\">https:\/\/interpreterfoundation.org\/category\/summaries\/<\/a>. An introduction to the Interpreting <em>Interpreter <\/em>series is available at <a href=\"https:\/\/interpreterfoundation.org\/interpreterfoundation.org\/interpreting-interpreter-on-abstracting-thought\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\">https:\/interpreterfoundation.org\/interpreting-interpreter-on-abstracting-thought\/<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>A video introduction to this Interpreter article is now available on all of our social media channels, including on YouTube at <a href=\"https:\/\/youtube.com\/shorts\/9TzOFcVerME\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\">https:\/\/youtube.com\/shorts\/9TzOFcVerME<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>The Takeaway:<\/strong> Gardner argues that that many of the apparently 19th century features of the Book of Mormon text could be explained by how translations across cultures often operate, particularly if was treated as a localized translation (into something that would be meaningful to a 19th century audience) and was a translation <em>up<\/em> into English as the privileged vernacular.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<figure id=\"attachment_70027\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-70027\" style=\"width: 597px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2019\/02\/Durham_Cathedral_and_Castle-1.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-70027\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2019\/02\/Durham_Cathedral_and_Castle-1.jpg\" alt=\"The Cathedral at Durham, from the air\" width=\"597\" height=\"387\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-70027\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">An aerial view of Durham Cathedral, which, of course, was built by pre-Reformation Catholics and now belongs to the Church of England (Wikimedia Commons public domain photo)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>For those of you \u2014 if there <em>are<\/em> any of you \u2014 who can access the <em>Wall Street Journal<\/em>, this article about the current state of the Anglican Church in the United Kingdom is, I think, rather sobering: \u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.wsj.com\/opinion\/church-of-england-disestablish-thyself-abortion-assisted-suicide-5b48a69f\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cChurch of England, Disestablish Thyself:\u00a0Christian witness is incompatible with the militantly secular British government\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>And, for any out there who might have access to the <em>New York Times<\/em>, here\u2019s a perfectly appalling story: \u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2025\/06\/21\/us\/white-supremacist-university-of-florida-paper.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Qk8.QBmg.MfxHpMpJPA9N\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cA White Nationalist Wrote a Law School Paper Promoting Racist Views. It Won Him an Award. \u00a0The University of Florida student won an academic honor after he argued in a paper that the Constitution applies only to white people. From there, the situation spiraled.\u201d<\/a>\u00a0 If you\u2019re able to read the article, you\u2019ll understand why I hope that, should he graduate from law school and pass the bar exam \u2014 both of which seem likely \u2014 he will nonetheless be denied admission to the bar on the grounds of deficiency in moral character. \u00a0Or, if that doesn\u2019t work, that no reputable law firm will wish to hire him or to be associated with him. \u00a0And I think that such a reaction to him seems fairly likely. \u00a0What modern law firm would want, as one of its attorneys, an explicitly anti-Jewish White Nationalist who isn\u2019t terribly offended at being described as a Nazi?<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_32451\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-32451\" style=\"width: 600px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2016\/04\/600px-August_2010_CME_SDO_Multi-Wavelength.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-32451\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2016\/04\/600px-August_2010_CME_SDO_Multi-Wavelength.jpg\" alt=\"The Sun as I haven't seen it.\" width=\"600\" height=\"600\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-32451\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The beautiful thing about online podcasts is that they can, in theory, go all around the globe. \u00a0The bad thing about them is that, when they turn out really badly, they can still in theory go all around the globe. \u00a0(NASA public domain photograph)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Okay. \u00a0So I invited you the other day to look at the first two products of our new Interpreter Foundation Podcast and to offer any suggestions that you might have for its improvement. \u00a0Yesterday, I finally got a chance to look at it myself and, well, it was awful. \u00a0Embarrassing. \u00a0The production quality is absolutely terrible. \u00a0So I want to thank you all for not writing here to say what you could, quite justifiably, have said. \u00a0You might have had me contemplating a plunge from a cliff.<\/p>\n<p>There were specific reasons for that disastrous quality and, both by telephone and via email, a few of us have been discussing them and what steps we\u2019re intending to take to ensure that things become better in the future. \u00a0For one thing, we\u2019re likely to opt in the near (and perhaps in the middle) term for an audio podcast rather than a video podcast. \u00a0(Some have always preferred that approach <em>anyway<\/em>.) \u00a0In any case, be assured that we\u2019re aware of the issues and that we won\u2019t be continuing in that vein. \u00a0And that no extra guards need to be posted on local cliffs and bridges.<\/p>\n<p>Move along! \u00a0Move along! \u00a0There\u2019s nothing to see here!<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00a0 Today, 27 June, is the 181st anniversary of the martyrdom of Joseph and Hyrum Smith. \u00a0I haven\u2019t been looking for such things, but I have already seen one celebratory note about the murders. \u00a0It was posted by a former member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and it puts me in [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1019,"featured_media":26811,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[28550,56,1104,380,4435,1564],"class_list":["post-110897","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-anachronisms","tag-book-of-mormon","tag-death","tag-joseph-smith","tag-martyrdom","tag-translation"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>181 Years Ago, Today<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"&nbsp; 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