{"id":112619,"date":"2025-08-31T21:10:17","date_gmt":"2025-09-01T03:10:17","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/?p=112619"},"modified":"2025-08-31T21:36:55","modified_gmt":"2025-09-01T03:36:55","slug":"with-a-fatherly-care-and-paternal-regard","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/danpeterson\/2025\/08\/with-a-fatherly-care-and-paternal-regard.html","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;With a fatherly care, and paternal regard&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><h4><\/h4>\n<figure id=\"attachment_112625\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-112625\" style=\"width: 319px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2025\/08\/Orson_Ferguson_Whitney.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-112625\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2025\/08\/Orson_Ferguson_Whitney.jpg\" alt=\"O. F. Whitney, of the Twelve\" width=\"319\" height=\"414\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-112625\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Elder Orson F. Whitney of the Council of the Twelve, in a public domain photograph that probably dates to around 1904<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>During the April 1929 General Conference of the <a href='https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/library\/mormonism' target='_blank'>Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints<\/a>, Elder Orson F. Whitney, an exceptionally talented writer and speaker and a senior member of the Church\u2019s Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, delivered an address that has been quoted frequently in recent decades by other leaders of the Church and by many other Latter-day Saints. \u00a0It has given comfort to many, for obvious reasons. \u00a0Consider, for example, the three following passages from his remarks:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<h4 id=\"heading-0\">The Youth of Zion<\/h4>\n<p>I have faith in the young people of this Church\u2014not because I believe them without fault, nor because I think all are walking in the ways of wisdom and shunning the downward road. I have faith in them because of the character of their parents, because of the ancestry from which they have sprung, and because of the promise made by the God of Heaven, that \u201cthis Kingdom shall never be thrown down nor given to another people.\u201d<\/p>\n<h4 id=\"heading-1\">A Word for the Wayward<\/h4>\n<p>You parents of the wilful and the wayward! Don\u2019t give them up. Don\u2019t cast them off. They are not utterly lost. The Shepherd will find his sheep. They were his before they were yours\u2014long before he entrusted them to your care; and you cannot begin to love them as he loves them. They have but strayed in ignorance from the Path of Right, and God is merciful to ignorance. Only the fulness of knowledge brings the fulness of accountability. Our Heavenly Father is far more merciful, infinitely more charitable, than even the best of his servants, and the Everlasting Gospel is mightier in power to save than our narrow finite minds can comprehend.<\/p>\n<h4 id=\"heading-2\">A Precious Promise<\/h4>\n<p>The Prophet Joseph Smith declared\u2014and he never taught more comforting doctrine\u2014that the eternal sealings of faithful parents and the divine promises made to them for valiant service in the Cause of Truth, would save not only themselves, but likewise their posterity. Though some of the sheep may wander, the eye of the Shepherd is upon them, and sooner or later they will feel the tentacles of Divine Providence reaching out after them and drawing them back to the fold. Either in this life or the life to come, they will return. They will have to pay their debt to justice; they will suffer for their sins; and may tread a thorny path; but if it leads them at last, like the penitent Prodigal, to a loving and forgiving father\u2019s heart and home, the painful experience will not have been in vain. Pray for your careless and disobedient children; hold on to them with your faith. Hope on, trust on, till you see the salvation of God.<\/p>\n<p>Who are these straying sheep\u2014these wayward sons and daughters? They are children of the Covenant, heirs to the promises, and have received, if baptized, the gift of the Holy Ghost, which makes manifest the things of God. Could all that go for naught?<\/p>\n<p>(Orson F. Whitney, in <i>Ninety-Ninth Annual Conference of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints<\/i> [The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1929], 110-111)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>During the flight from Salt Lake City over to Portland today, I read <a href=\"https:\/\/byustudies.byu.edu\/article\/the-youth-of-zion-a-word-for-the-wayward-and-a-precious-promise-elder-orson-f-whitneys-april-1929-general-conference-sermon-on-righteous-parents-wayward-children-and-priesthood-sealings\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">\u201c\u201cThe Youth of Zion,\u201d \u201cA Word for the Wayward,\u201d and \u201cA Precious Promise\u201d: Elder Orson F. Whitney\u2019s April 1929 General Conference Sermon on Righteous Parents, Wayward Children, and Priesthood Sealings,\u201d<\/a> a substantial piece by <a href=\"https:\/\/byustudies.byu.edu\/author\/reid-l-neilson\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Reid L. Neilson<\/a> that appears as the lead article in the newest issue of <em>BYU Studies<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s a very helpful study. \u00a0Although Elder Whitney\u2019s words in April 1929 can certainly be comforting, many of us (including myself) have wondered how, as they stand, they can be reconciled with the fundamental Restoration emphasis on human agency.<\/p>\n<p>Elder David A. Bednar, a current member of the Council of the Twelve, has noted the perplexity or the difficulty, commenting that<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p id=\"p3\" data-aid=\"127350598\">One of the greatest heartaches a valiant parent in Zion can suffer is a child who strays from the gospel path. Questions of \u201cWhy?\u201d or \u201cWhat did I do wrong?\u201d and \u201cHow can this child now be helped?\u201d are pondered without ceasing in the minds and hearts of such parents. These men and women pray earnestly, search the scriptures diligently, and listen intently to the counsel of priesthood and auxiliary leaders as they turn to the gospel of Jesus Christ for guidance, strength, and solace.<\/p>\n<p id=\"p4\" data-aid=\"127350600\">Statements by General Authorities of the Church describing the influence of faithful parents on wayward children have been and continue to be a source of great familial comfort. \u00a0The consolation arises from the hope these messages seem to proffer that parents who honor gospel covenants, obey the Lord\u2019s commandments, and serve faithfully can influence the salvation of their sons and daughters who go astray. However, the interpretation of these statements by some members of the Church has contributed to a measure of doctrinal misunderstanding. The confusion derives from the apparent inconsistency of these interpretations with the doctrine of the Atonement of Jesus Christ and the principles of moral agency and individual accountability for sins and transgressions.<\/p>\n<p>(David A. Bednar, \u201cFaithful Parents and Wayward Children,\u201d <i>Ensign,<\/i> March 2014, 28; unfortunately, this passage is truncated in the online version, though not the printed version, of Dr. Neilson\u2019s article.)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>It seems that Orson F. Whitney himself must have felt that his remarks of April 1929, which may have been delivered extemporaneously (as conference addresses tended to be, in the era prior to television), required clarification, since, as Dr. Neilson observes,<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Joseph Smith and Elder Whitney consistently taught the doctrinal pairings of agency and accountability, as well as mercy and justice. Or, as Amulek taught Zeezrom in Ammonihah, \u201cthat the Lord surely should come to redeem his people, but that he should not come to redeem them <i>in<\/i> their sins, but to redeem them <i>from<\/i> their sins\u201d (Hel. 5:10, emphasis added; see also Alma 11:37; 2 Ne. 30:2).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<figure id=\"attachment_112628\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-112628\" style=\"width: 597px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2025\/08\/960px-OrsonFWhitneyGrave.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-112628\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2025\/08\/960px-OrsonFWhitneyGrave.jpg\" alt=\"grave marker of O. F. Whitney. sdkdmdmkdkl\" width=\"597\" height=\"352\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-112628\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Elder Whitney\u2019s simple headstone in Salt Lake City (Wikimedia Commons public domain image)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>The article examines Orson F. Whitney\u2019s exceptional personal and family history to elucidate his views on the subject of faithful parents and wayward children and to account, perhaps, for why it mattered so deeply to him. \u00a0, Moreover, it draws upon sources that have not previously been employed for such a purpose, demonstrating that Elder Whitney himself recognized that mercy cannot rob justice, and said so. \u00a0Right up to the time of his death in May 1931, slightly more than two years after that April 1929 statement.<\/p>\n<p>I commend Dr. Neilson\u2019s article to you. \u00a0He closes on a bright and hopeful note:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>In a Nauvoo newspaper editorial on baptism for the dead, Joseph Smith cautioned his fellow mortals to leave judgement of this world\u2019s children to their loving Heavenly Father:<\/p>\n<p>\u201cBut while one portion of the human race are judging and condemning the other without mercy, the great parent of the universe looks upon the whole of the human family with a fatherly care, and paternal regard; he views them as his offspring; and without any of those contracted feelings that influence the children of men, causes \u2018his sun to rise on the evil and the good; and send his rain on the just and unjust.\u2019 He holds the reins of judgment in his hands; he is a wise lawgiver, and will judge all men, [not according to the narrow contracted notions of men, but] \u2018according to the deeds done in the body whether they be good or evil;\u2019 or whether these deeds were done in England, America, Spain, Turkey[, or] India.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>(Ed. [Joseph Smith], \u201cBaptism for the Dead,\u201d <em>Times and Seasons<\/em>, 3 no. 12 [April 15, 1842]: 759. Unfortunately, here too, this passage is truncated in the online version, although not in the printed version, of Dr. Neilson\u2019s article. \u00a0I\u2019ve written to the editor of <em>BYU Studies<\/em> about this.)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This topic interests me a great deal. \u00a0As I\u2019ve said here several times previously, I\u2019m strongly inclined to a quasi-universalistic view of human salvation. \u00a0I can\u2019t quite get all the way to a full-on universalism because of my belief in human agency. \u00a0I can easily imagine that some souls will remain defiant to the end. \u00a0But I try to get as close to that view as I\u2019m able.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_27997\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-27997\" style=\"width: 597px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2015\/11\/800px-Portland_Temple_at_night.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-27997\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2015\/11\/800px-Portland_Temple_at_night.jpg\" alt=\"Oregon's first temple\" width=\"597\" height=\"448\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-27997\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Portland Oregon Temple \u00a0(Wikimedia Commons public domain image)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>As a public service reminder, I repeat my advisory that decent people should avoid the chapel of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints that is located at 4195 Southwest 99th Avenue in Beaverton, Oregon, on Friday, 12 September 2025, between 7:00 PM and 8:30 PM: \u00a0I will be speaking there during that time, on the subject of the Witnesses to the Book of Mormon.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_32586\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-32586\" style=\"width: 597px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2016\/04\/601px-TajMahalbyAmalMongia-1.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-32586\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/186\/2016\/04\/601px-TajMahalbyAmalMongia-1.jpg\" alt=\"The tomb of Mumtaz Mahal\" width=\"597\" height=\"596\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-32586\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Taj Mahal, in Agra, Uttar Pradesh, India, was built between 1632 and 1643. \u00a0I lectured on it, typically, twice every year in my Humanities 242 (\u201cHumanities of Islam\u201d). \u00a0Images of it are to be found in more than once place on the interior walls of the Bombay House Restaurant in Provo.<br>(Wikimedia Commons public domain photo by Amal Mongia) \u00a0It is, by the way, somewhat of a contrast to Orson F. Whitney\u2019s grave marker.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>For as yet unknown reasons, this fact really seems to trigger some of my weirder critics . . . but, well, I eat food. \u00a0Really, I do. \u00a0I eat food every day. \u00a0Every single day. \u00a0Even, as it happens, on weekends when I\u2019m fasting. \u00a0(Lunch on Saturday, typically, and then lunch again on Sunday. \u00a0Two lunches in two days!) \u00a0And sometimes I eat in <em>restaurants<\/em>. \u00a0That occurred yesterday, for example: Celebrating a family birthday, some of us went to Provo\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/bombayhouse.com\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Bombay House<\/a>. \u00a0It\u2019s long been a favorite of ours, and I\u2019m glad that we have such a place to enjoy in Utah Valley. \u00a0Even the local third-generation unit who joined us liked the meal. \u00a0(I\u2019ll forego the opportunity to sing the praises of their mango lassi, which is one of the great blessings afforded humankind in this mortal sphere. \u00a0Tragically, my wife is quite allergic to mango, so going to Bombay House is generally my best opportunity to snag a mango lassi.)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\">Posted from Depoe Bay, Oregon<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>During the April 1929 General Conference of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Elder Orson F. 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